Well this aint a landy but so obviously a ringer.
HONDA C50 1979 mot jan 13 | eBay
HONDA C50 1979 mot jan 13 | eBay
Freelaner
Landy Driver
The Ferkin BoB
Banned
Our first reported success.....
Received following from AVCIS this morning (and cleared to post on the forums)
I've not been told to which actual ID this one related too, as suspect that is too sensitive.
It's a start.... please keep sending them in
yay awesome,thats the best news ever...
roll on boys in blue....
martin1512
Well-Known Member
The guy is selling a chassis with ID. This is actually legal.
major truma 2
New Member
ring the police ,,click on his other items for sale ,,he is a chop shop omfg ,,the police have got to pay him a visit fast ,,what a ****
Steve_R1979
Active Member
Might just break them on the side for all you know.
major truma 2
New Member
oh yeh cause ,he just broke a damaged free puma ,,,,,,it must be me
The Ferkin BoB
Banned
tis good,I have to work very hard to keep hold of the landy here...it gets watched alot,im not paranoid just observant.i have noticed the same wagon a couple of times now,each time i have been followed i have gone right round a roundabout and it followed me.Latest couple sent on to AVCIS.
It's great we've had some success and that AVCIS are taking our info seriously. All I'm doing is coordinating what gets posted up on here, LandyWatch and one or two other forums, so its most certainly an all round effort.
the second time i drove into a field and buggered off round the headland.
Another 90 went not far from me recently and he saw nothing....
it pays to see who is watching....
MPfive
Active Member
Thats not a puma. Early 90.
major truma 2
New Member
o no ,,i was on about the other items he has for sale
I'd say he was someone who breaks land rovers. The auction for the vin and chassis, the pic of of a complete body + running gear as well, but the description says chassis only, so presumably he's stripping it to sell all the parts
Martin is correct that what he's doing is legal, or at least within the letter of the law, the point is though that whoever buys the chassis isn't going to rebuild it to original spec using new parts, as they'd need to do to stay legal, they're obviously going to swap the id onto another vehicle, either to avoid the LEZ rules, or worse still to clone one they nicked.
Selling ID's a a ****s trick, if he really intended the truck to be re built he'd sell it in as bigger lump as he could with most of the bits still on it, as it is, he's sold all the other parts and now he's being greedy and wants a draw for the V5 as well, even though he knows as well as you ans i do what the buyer is going to do with it.
so i think over all you're right, he does need a visit from the rozzers, if only to give him a change of attitude.
anyway, here's another likely candidate:
LANDROVER 1972 TAX EXEMPT SERIES 3 88"SWB CHASSIS | eBay
LANDROVER 1972 TAX EXEMPT SERIES 3 88"SWB CHASSIS | eBay
actually, looking at this sale, he's definitely a breaker,
Landrover defender 110 TD5 hard top damaged | eBay
should still know better though.
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
What a load of ****e. only last week some poor fooker joined up ere and posted pics of his 90 that he'd just wrapped round a tree and bent the chassis. this sale would be ideal for him. he also sys that DVLA will be notified of buyers details and that V5 will go to DVLA.
I know ebay is awash with stolen landies and parts., BUT FFS not everyone is selling knock off landies
What a load of ****e. only last week some poor fooker joined up ere and posted pics of his 90 that he'd just wrapped round a tree and bent the chassis. this sale would be ideal for him. he also sys that DVLA will be notified of buyers details and that V5 will go to DVLA.
I know ebay is awash with stolen landies and parts., BUT FFS not everyone is selling knock off landies
He wouldn't be needing the V5 though, would he?
the seller isn't selling the chassis, he's selling the ID.
Party Monkey
New Member
Recent ones sent on to AVCIS,
I'm in two minds about the breaker lad selling the chassis+V5 as he does state a full receipt will be given but then it's all mobile numbers etc.... Still have sent it over and AVCIS can make their own minds up.
Worse case, he's legit and he gets a visit, then he nothing to worry about...
I'm in two minds about the breaker lad selling the chassis+V5 as he does state a full receipt will be given but then it's all mobile numbers etc.... Still have sent it over and AVCIS can make their own minds up.
Worse case, he's legit and he gets a visit, then he nothing to worry about...
No he is selling a chassis with its legal ID which should stay with it.
So the V5 must go with it. Which part of that dont you get.
If you damaged a Chassis the only way to replace legally would be to fit a brand new one and havr it stamped with the VIN .
You could buy a secondhand one with an ID but you legally should rebuild with the ID of the chassis and register a change of engine number with the DVLA.
According to the DVLA: (from the hybrid or ringer? thread above)
Cars and car-derived vans (this includes Land Rovers) must use:
The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque); or a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (e.g. receipt).
And two other major components from the original vehicle - ie suspension (front & back); steering assembly; axles (both); transmission or engine.
If you're going to stick to the letter of the law, you couldn't legally use the ID without some of the other main components, according to my reading of the above.
I take your point, but to my mind, you either sell the vehicle or you sell the parts. I think it's a bit off to sell the parts then sell the chassis with the ID, knowing that the ID has a value in itself.
That ID *could* be used to clone a stolen vehicle, and i don't see any harm in flagging it up, if the seller's not doing anything wrong he has nothing to worry about, it's more a case of if AVCIS are aware of the ID, if it's ever registered again and comes up as being MOTed or taxed, it might warrant checking out to see if it's a legit rebuild or a ringer. Is that unreasonable?
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
FFS try reading the sellers description. then comment..
instead of putting ya foot in it all the time.
