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Michael McNeil

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #41

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:21:01 -0600, "George" <nospam@nospam.net>
wrote:

>convenience. I pay to have it done but before I drive away, I do a quick
>check to make sure I still have a dipstick, an oil cap, and to see that they
>"did" change the filter and other things they were supposed to do.
>


If you're going through that much trouble to second guess their work
then you'd be better off doing it yourself then you would know that
the above mentioned items would still be there.

In the long term.. less stress on your part having people handle your
vehicle.

If you have to go through those checks when they simply do an oil
change then obviously you don't trust the mechanics you bring your
vehicle to. Go to another garage

 

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The Nolalu Barn Owl

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #42

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:21:01 -0600, "George" <nospam@nospam.net>
wrote:

>
>"Oliver B. Lafferty" <asketumSPAMNOT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:41c46d63.20289644@news.individual.NET...
><SNIP>
>> Changing oil is not a big deal and is cheaper, quicker and safer than
>> having a mentally challenged garage helper do it.
>>
>Cheaper? I pay about 20 bucks - How much cheaper can it be to buy the ****
>to do it myself?
>Quicker? It takes them about 20 minutes. How much faster could I do it
>myself?
>Safer? How much safer would it be for me to get under there myself?
>Mentally challenged? Some of them are, of course. Most have just as much
>mechanical ability as you! You're right, changing oil is no big deal, but
>look at the real world. Lots of folks are stuck with street parking, no
>knowledge, and no tools. Some pay because they have to; some pay because of
>convenience. I pay to have it done but before I drive away, I do a quick
>check to make sure I still have a dipstick, an oil cap, and to see that they
>"did" change the filter and other things they were supposed to do.
>
LOL,
It is -30C this morning. On such a day it is ALWAYS safer to get
someone else to do it.
An oil change is much more than the crankcase. They change the
filter, grease the chassis, check the oil in the pumpkins. They have
a hoist so they can take the pressure off the ball joints so they can
be filled.
All this takes more than 20 minutes for me (in my gravel driveway) and
we have 3 trucks.
At 52 years old I can think of some things I would have others do.
Oil changes and exhaust systems comes to mind. I have to save huge
sheets of cardboard to lay under the truck on and they don't

Merry Christmas one and all.
Gordie

--
Best Regards
Gordie

 

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Whitelightning

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #43

The real problem is people don't develop a relationship with a garage, they
don't get to know a shop. They take it to some oil change joint for that
and pay too much, another place for ac and yet another when it isn't
running right. and more than likely never the same place twice in a row.

I dont change oil. I have a shop that does that for me, I've known the
owner for 10 years plus. He's the only one that has touched my truck besides
myself. I bring him the oil and filter, walk across the street to the
dinner, have breakfast, bring him back a cup of coffee and a bagal, pay him
$20 and drive away. I buy the oil by the case and enough oil filters to go
with it. Grab a couple sets of wiper blades(Florida sun is hell on blades),
and couple air filters at the same time. Every third oil change he rotates
and balances tires and checks the alignment, and does a brake inspection.

The alternative is drag out jack stands and jack, crawl under, drain,
replace filter, shake front end down and lube, check u-joints, check diff
lube level. Get it off the jack stands, fill the crank, check the power
steering fluid, check the tranny fluid. drain the drain pan into a
container of some kind, clean the pan, and other tools used, put everything
away. Wash hands, change out of old clothes worn. And then find some place
to get rid of the old oil. Still have to take it some place for the rotate,
balance and alignment check.

Whiteightning

 

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TaskMule

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #44

"The Nolalu Barn Owl"
> LOL,
> It is -30C this morning. On such a day it is ALWAYS safer to get
> someone else to do it.
> An oil change is much more than the crankcase. They change the
> filter, grease the chassis, check the oil in the pumpkins. They have
> a hoist so they can take the pressure off the ball joints so they can
> be filled.

Most of the oil change places use a basement "pit" as opposed to a hoist
though.

Also how many of them wipe the grease nipples before applying the grease
gun.
usually they just jamb it on and pump sandy gritty grease into the ball
joint.
I once asked the guy in the pit to wipe each nipple before greasing and he
looked at me like I was insane.

B

 

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Tim Kett

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #45

Ken Weitzel <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in article
<%mMwd.537369$%k.220965@pd7tw2no>...
>
>
> johanb wrote:
> > "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
> > news:2vudnTbcHshhFF7cRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the
> >
> > oil)?
> >
> >>
> >
> > I hope for you it is "doc"
> >
> > Or you can just take it out / have it taken out and spend a $ 19.95 on
a oil
> > change
> >
> > Or a couple of thousand on a motor
> >
> > You do the math..............
> >
> > Johan
>
> Hi...
>
> Maybe I'm over-simplifying... but the oil's new; why replace it?
>
> Why not just loosen the plug and let a bit out? Heck,
> clean the drain pan thoroughly first and save what you remove
> for a top-up.
>
> Course I am from the waste not want not generation
>
> Ken

I overfilled mine once, by 1/2 quart, and just loostened the plug and let
1/2 qt out like you said. BUT I wouldnt think of reusing it, in case it
picked up and particles on the outside of the oil pan.

Sure, the motor might be $2000, but putting the damn thing in is probably
$5000 in that newfangled pice of s*it car. Thank got my 81 and 85 trucks
arent that way.


>
>

 

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Tim Kett

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #46

They have those for cars too, but I have never used one in the whole 30
years that I have been changing oil. You dont even need ramps to drain most
trucks, so i could drain 1/2 quart from mine in about 1 1/2 minuits max
after I find my wrench.

nospam@pleasedontspamme.com wrote in article
<cq1ouh019aj@drn.newsguy.com>...
> Personally, I'd just climb underneath and let some of the extra oil out.
But, if
> you have an aversion to getting under there and making a mess, there may
be a
> simpler solution....
>
> To change the oil in my inboard-outboard boat, I pump it out through the
> dipstick. That's the way it's done in boats. So, you could drop by your
local
> boating store and pick up a pump for $20 or less. Pump the extra
half-quart out
> and save it for later. No mess, and you'll have a handly little pump left
over
> that you can use for something else in the future. Personally, I've never
done
> this on an automobile, so take this advice with a grain of salt.... Just
make
> sure the tubing used on the pump will fit into your dipstick tube.
>
>
>
> In article <G5Gdna1sqcKeo17cRVn-vw@comcast.com>, Spiderman says...
> >
> >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
change
> >on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the

> >charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown
fluid (I
> >assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is
not
> >warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
> >engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage?
I
> >assume the excess will just drip out?
> >
> >
>
>

 

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KENG

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #47

Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart.
KenG

Tim Kett wrote:
> Ken Weitzel <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in article
> <%mMwd.537369$%k.220965@pd7tw2no>...
>
>>
>>johanb wrote:
>>
>>>"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2vudnTbcHshhFF7cRVn-sw@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the
>>>
>>>oil)?
>>>
>>>
>>>I hope for you it is "doc"
>>>
>>>Or you can just take it out / have it taken out and spend a $ 19.95 on
>
> a oil
>
>>>change
>>>
>>>Or a couple of thousand on a motor
>>>
>>>You do the math..............
>>>
>>>Johan
>>
>>Hi...
>>
>>Maybe I'm over-simplifying... but the oil's new; why replace it?
>>
>>Why not just loosen the plug and let a bit out? Heck,
>>clean the drain pan thoroughly first and save what you remove
>>for a top-up.
>>
>>Course I am from the waste not want not generation
>>
>>Ken
>
>
> I overfilled mine once, by 1/2 quart, and just loostened the plug and let
> 1/2 qt out like you said. BUT I wouldnt think of reusing it, in case it
> picked up and particles on the outside of the oil pan.
>
> Sure, the motor might be $2000, but putting the damn thing in is probably
> $5000 in that newfangled pice of s*it car. Thank got my 81 and 85 trucks
> arent that way.
>
>
>
>>

 

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el Diablo

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #48

"KENG" <KEN@dont.spam.me.com> wrote in message
news:eImxd.939$823.257368@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart.
> KenG
>
You might want to take the filter off and drain it, but I'd put the same
filter back on. They cost money ya know.

Brian

 

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Ken Weitzel

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #49

el Diablo wrote:
> "KENG" <KEN@dont.spam.me.com> wrote in message
> news:eImxd.939$823.257368@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>
>>Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart.
>>KenG
>>
>
> You might want to take the filter off and drain it, but I'd put the same
> filter back on. They cost money ya know.
>
> Brian

Hi...

Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ?

And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another
few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure,
while the filter fills, right?

Ken

 

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TaskMule

Guest

• Dec 19, 2004

• #50

"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:mznxd.525488$Pl.420496@pd7tw1no...
>
>
> el Diablo wrote:
> > "KENG" <KEN@dont.spam.me.com> wrote in message
> > news:eImxd.939$823.257368@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> >
> >>Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart.
> >>KenG
> >>
> >
> > You might want to take the filter off and drain it, but I'd put the
same
> > filter back on. They cost money ya know.
> >
> > Brian
>
> Hi...
>
> Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ?
>
> And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another
> few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure,
> while the filter fills, right?
>
> Ken
>

This thread has lost all control, lol

 

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TranSurgeon

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #51

"TaskMule" <unavailable@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:MPGdnSYT7v1IlFvcRVn-hA@magma.ca...
>
> "Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:mznxd.525488$Pl.420496@pd7tw1no...
> >
> >
> > el Diablo wrote:
> > > "KENG" <KEN@dont.spam.me.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eImxd.939$823.257368@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > >
> > >>Just change the filter, there goes 1/2 to 1 quart.
> > >>KenG
> > >>
> > >
> > > You might want to take the filter off and drain it, but I'd put the
> same
> > > filter back on. They cost money ya know.
> > >
> > > Brian
> >
> > Hi...
> >
> > Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ?
> >
> > And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another
> > few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure,
> > while the filter fills, right?
> >
> > Ken
> >
>
> This thread has lost all control, lol
>

agreed, this thread is now to the 'jeez, get a f*cking life!'
point...............

 

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shiden_kai

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #52

Ken Weitzel wrote:

> Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ?
>
> And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another
> few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure,
> while the filter fills, right?

This is now an official "Lawrence Glickman" ****ed up
thread.

Ian

 

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Lawrence Glickman

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #53

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:43:33 GMT, "shiden_kai"
<violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ken Weitzel wrote:
>
>> Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ?
>>
>> And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another
>> few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure,
>> while the filter fills, right?
>
>This is now an official "Lawrence Glickman" ****ed up
>thread.
>
>Ian
>

Suck my dick Ian.
I didn't bring this *leaker* into this thread.
Go **** yourself with a broomstick.
I knew there was a reason I had you killfiled.

PLONK

Lg

 

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Bob

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #54

"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0nfcs0di481hq47hea7md04bb69avn1a70@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:43:33 GMT, "shiden_kai"
> <violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Ken Weitzel wrote:
>>
>>> Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ?
>>>
>>> And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another
>>> few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure,
>>> while the filter fills, right?
>>
>>This is now an official "Lawrence Glickman" ****ed up
>>thread.
>>
>>Ian
>>
>
> Suck my dick Ian.
> I didn't bring this *leaker* into this thread.
> Go **** yourself with a broomstick.
> I knew there was a reason I had you killfiled.
>
> PLONK
>
> Lg
>
Glickman, you've just got to be one of the dumbest assholes on UseNet. If
you actually had Ian killfiled you wouldn't have even seen the post that you
just replied to. I'd have killfiled you long ago except that you're posts
have some entertainment value. Just when I think you couldn't possibly say
anything dumber you prove me wrong.
Bob

 

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Lawrence Glickman

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #55

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:22:27 -0600, "Bob" <bob@n0spam.net> wrote:

>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:0nfcs0di481hq47hea7md04bb69avn1a70@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:43:33 GMT, "shiden_kai"
>> <violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Ken Weitzel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ?
>>>>
>>>> And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another
>>>> few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure,
>>>> while the filter fills, right?
>>>
>>>This is now an official "Lawrence Glickman" ****ed up
>>>thread.
>>>
>>>Ian
>>>
>>
>> Suck my dick Ian.
>> I didn't bring this *leaker* into this thread.
>> Go **** yourself with a broomstick.
>> I knew there was a reason I had you killfiled.
>>
>> PLONK
>>
>> Lg
>>
>Glickman, you've just got to be one of the dumbest assholes on UseNet. If
>you actually had Ian killfiled you wouldn't have even seen the post that you
>just replied to. I'd have killfiled you long ago except that you're posts
>have some entertainment value.

Name a SINGLE technical error I've made this week, or any week.
Name ONE.

> Just when I think you couldn't possibly say
>anything dumber you prove me wrong.

Well bobbie, you live in a world of stupidity, so it doesn't surprise
me that everything you see looks stupid to you.

Now Name a SINGLE technical eror I've made, and the entire Usenet is
WAITING.....................................................................................

Lg


> Bob
>

 

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\Doc\

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #56

"Bob" <bob@n0spam.net> wrote in message
news:OHrxd.27000$0h4.21037@fe05.lga...

> Glickman, you've just got to be one of the dumbest assholes on UseNet. If
> you actually had Ian killfiled you wouldn't have even seen the post that
> you just replied to. I'd have killfiled you long ago except that you're
> posts have some entertainment value. Just when I think you couldn't
> possibly say anything dumber you prove me wrong.
> Bob

You sure this weiner isn't Dean Tardwin in drag?? His "style" seems awfully
familiar. Any tech geeks out there who can check the message headers and
see if it's coming from Wisconsin!?

Doc


>

 

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Whitelightning

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #57

"TaskMule" <unavailable@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:WOydnQSOX4v0J1jcRVn-rg@magma.ca...
>
>
> Also how many of them wipe the grease nipples before applying the grease
> gun.
> usually they just jamb it on and pump sandy gritty grease into the ball
> joint.
> I once asked the guy in the pit to wipe each nipple before greasing and he
> looked at me like I was insane.
>

Or pre fill the oil filter before putting it on.
Whitelightning

 

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shiden_kai

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #58

"Doc" wrote:

> You sure this weiner isn't Dean Tardwin in drag?? His "style" seems
> awfully familiar. Any tech geeks out there who can check the message
> headers and see if it's coming from Wisconsin!?

No, I think we had this discussion a while back. Glicky is just
a "dean" wannabe. I thought he was gone for a while, but I guess
he's poked his little ol head back up again. Drives a Ford...serves
him right! He'll be in the shop on Monday bitching about his "brown"
trans fluid....hopefully they will tell him to go "**** himself".

Ian

 

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shiden_kai

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #59

Lawrence Glickman wrote:

> Suck my dick Ian.
> I didn't bring this *leaker* into this thread.
> Go **** yourself with a broomstick.
> I knew there was a reason I had you killfiled.
>
> PLONK

Oooooohh....noooooo....you "plonked" me!!!
I guess I've been told. Good luck on Monday,
I hope they run you out of the shop on a rail.
A little bit of tar and feathers wouldn't hurt either.

Ian

 

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shiden_kai

Guest

• Dec 20, 2004

• #60

Whitelightning wrote:

> Or pre fill the oil filter before putting it on.

Right....I'd like to see you pre-fill the oil
filter on an Ecotec 4 cylinder engine. And
many other engines....good luck!

Ian