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I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change
on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I
assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not
warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
assume the excess will just drip out?


 
<chop>
> engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
> assume the excess will just drip out?
A little bit won't hurt but,,,, if it is way over full your crankshaft will
have to fight it's way through the oil so your mileage and power will
suffer. I lost a fuelpump diaphram on a 327 once and filled the crankcase
with gas. Had one hell of a leak, out the dipstick, oil filler cap, blew pcv
out. Sure smoked a lot too.

Willy


 

"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
>change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off
>the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown
>fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The
>fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been
>thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent
>damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?

How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?

Doc


 

"Willy ****a" <willywanka@redram.com> wrote in message
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> <chop>
>> engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
>> assume the excess will just drip out?
> A little bit won't hurt but,,,, if it is way over full your crankshaft
> will have to fight it's way through the oil so your mileage and power will
> suffer. I lost a fuelpump diaphram on a 327 once and filled the crankcase
> with gas. Had one hell of a leak, out the dipstick, oil filler cap, blew
> pcv out. Sure smoked a lot too.
>
> Willy


Thanks for the quick reply. The engine sounds/runs normal (i.e. great) and
the tailpipe emissions are normal (clear). I love the 4.3 Vortec...just
wanted to make sure nothing damages my "baby". haha


 

""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
> news:G5Gdna1sqcKeo17cRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
>>change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading
>>"off the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery
>>brown fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment.
>>The fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has
>>been thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any
>>permanent damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?
>
> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
>
> Doc


I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to ride
up the stem of the dipstick.


 

"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
>>
>> Doc
>
> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to ride
> up the stem of the dipstick.

Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE how
far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than 2".

Doc


 
So what's the problem? If it is over filled, either do it
yourself, take you vehicle to a shop, remove the oil, refill with
the proper amount of oil, end of problem.


mike hunt

Spiderman wrote:
>
> I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change
> on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
> charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I
> assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not
> warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
> engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
> assume the excess will just drip out?
 
All the above said if the oil is too high it will be turned to foam by the
crankshaft and the bearings will be starved of oil and burn up. If it is
more than 1/2 inch above full drain it and fill correctly...


"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
news:G5Gdna1sqcKeo17cRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
>change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off
>the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown
>fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The
>fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been
>thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent
>damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?
>


 
Drain the oil pan and refill. But I will bet the shop didnot over fill the
engine , I bet that is coolant in your oil. On that engine I bet your
intake gasket has failed or the intake manifold has corroded through. Is
your coolant level going down? Good Luck ! Scott

 

""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
> news:RZadnUZrRPB1217cRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>
>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
>>>
>>> Doc
>>
>> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
>> ride up the stem of the dipstick.
>
> Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE how
> far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than 2".
>
> Doc


Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc?


 

"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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>>> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
>>> ride up the stem of the dipstick.
>>
>> Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE
>> how far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different
>> than 2".
>>
>> Doc
>
>
> Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis,
> Doc?

It's fine. Your truck takes about 4.75 qts and they likely just added 5
qts. 1/2" over "full" ain't going to hurt anything.

Doc

>


 
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:16:35 -0500, "Spiderman"
<spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote:

>
>""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
>news:p8KdneRX7K7c1V7cRVn-qg@adelphia.com...
>>
>> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
>> news:RZadnUZrRPB1217cRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>>
>>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
>>>>
>>>> Doc
>>>
>>> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
>>> ride up the stem of the dipstick.
>>
>> Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE how
>> far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than 2".
>>
>> Doc
>
>
>Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc?
>


The diagnosis is "Nitwitcity"

IOW, you paid Mr Goodwrench to screw up your vehicle. The crankshaft
can churn the oil causing it to become entrained with air bubbles, and
this is not a good thing for your main bearings.

Dump the extra, do it now. And don't go back to the jerk you paid to
screw up your ride.

Lg


 
Maybe a burst fuel pump diaphram? I know if it goes on a Ford it will fill
the crankcase with gasoline.

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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
news:G5Gdna1sqcKeo17cRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
change
> on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
> charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid
(I
> assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is
not
> warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
> engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
> assume the excess will just drip out?
>
>


 

"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:v9u6s094qva4h0uruknr0n6kvb9bfbjsg7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:16:35 -0500, "Spiderman"
> <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
>>news:p8KdneRX7K7c1V7cRVn-qg@adelphia.com...
>>>
>>> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
>>> news:RZadnUZrRPB1217cRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Doc
>>>>
>>>> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
>>>> ride up the stem of the dipstick.
>>>
>>> Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE
>>> how
>>> far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than
>>> 2".
>>>
>>> Doc
>>
>>
>>Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis,
>>Doc?
>>
>
>
> The diagnosis is "Nitwitcity"
>
> IOW, you paid Mr Goodwrench to screw up your vehicle. The crankshaft
> can churn the oil causing it to become entrained with air bubbles, and
> this is not a good thing for your main bearings.
>
> Dump the extra, do it now. And don't go back to the jerk you paid to
> screw up your ride.
>
> Lg


Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the oil)?


 

"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:D2Jwd.119$by5.79@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> All the above said if the oil is too high it will be turned to foam by the
> crankshaft and the bearings will be starved of oil and burn up. If it is
> more than 1/2 inch above full drain it and fill correctly...
>
>
> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
> news:G5Gdna1sqcKeo17cRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
>>change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading
>>"off the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery
>>brown fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment.
>>The fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has
>>been thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any
>>permanent damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?


Wouldn't that show up in the oil pressure? The pressure is in the normal
operating range. This is a very educational thread!


 
Wouldn't the oil smell like gas then? It still smells like oil. Also, the
fuel gauge hasn't moved down abnormally.

"Bob La Londe" <usenet@diycomponents.com> wrote in message
news:32heutF3m09uaU1@individual.net...
> Maybe a burst fuel pump diaphram? I know if it goes on a Ford it will
> fill
> the crankcase with gasoline.
>
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> in December
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>
>
> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
> news:G5Gdna1sqcKeo17cRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>> I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
> change
>> on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
>> charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid
> (I
>> assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is
> not
>> warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
>> engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
>> assume the excess will just drip out?
>>
>>
>
>


 

"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:v9u6s094qva4h0uruknr0n6kvb9bfbjsg7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:16:35 -0500, "Spiderman"
> <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
>>news:p8KdneRX7K7c1V7cRVn-qg@adelphia.com...
>>>
>>> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
>>> news:RZadnUZrRPB1217cRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Doc
>>>>
>>>> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
>>>> ride up the stem of the dipstick.
>>>
>>> Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE
>>> how
>>> far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than
>>> 2".
>>>
>>> Doc
>>
>>
>>Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis,
>>Doc?
>>
>
>
> The diagnosis is "Nitwitcity"
>
> IOW, you paid Mr Goodwrench to screw up your vehicle. The crankshaft
> can churn the oil causing it to become entrained with air bubbles, and
> this is not a good thing for your main bearings.
>
> Dump the extra, do it now. And don't go back to the jerk you paid to
> screw up your ride.
>
> Lg


You're not kidding, I had a new exhaust system installed recently and it
fell off the same day...turns out they didn't clamp the muffler down tight
enough!


 

"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the
oil)?
>
>

I hope for you it is "doc"

Or you can just take it out / have it taken out and spend a $ 19.95 on a oil
change

Or a couple of thousand on a motor

You do the math..............

Johan


 


johanb wrote:
> "Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
> news:2vudnTbcHshhFF7cRVn-sw@comcast.com...
>
>
>>
>>Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the
>
> oil)?
>
>>
>
> I hope for you it is "doc"
>
> Or you can just take it out / have it taken out and spend a $ 19.95 on a oil
> change
>
> Or a couple of thousand on a motor
>
> You do the math..............
>
> Johan

Hi...

Maybe I'm over-simplifying... but the oil's new; why replace it?

Why not just loosen the plug and let a bit out? Heck,
clean the drain pan thoroughly first and save what you remove
for a top-up.

Course I am from the waste not want not generation :)

Ken


 

"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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> Wouldn't the oil smell like gas then? It still smells like oil. Also, the
> fuel gauge hasn't moved down abnormally.
>
I am going to side with Doc on this, 1/2" over the full mark wont hurt a
thing, like he said they put 5 qts instead of 4.5 qts in.(based on the 90
some odd oil changes my 91 has had in its 202,000 mile life time) 1/2 qt
aint going to hurt a 4.3, the oil level still wont be close to the crank so
no frothing at the dip stick to worry about..

I got a kick out of how these threads get all bent out of shape, Spider
don't worry about a fuel pump diaphragm because your truck doesn't have one,
its fuel injected and has an electric fuel pump mounted in the tank.
And where did he say anywhere in his posts that he took it of Mr.
Goodwrench?

Given you have a 4X4, removing the oil filter usually results in some spilt
oil on the frame and skid plate, the drips in the drive way are probably
from that. Good shop would have cleaned it up.

Whitelightning


 
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