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for obvious reasons I havent used the car since yesterday afternoon until I can get an inspection carried out on the vehicle.

Today the suspension is sat that low that the drivers side rear wheel and arch are touching with force, the front isnt much better. I would have thought that the bump stops would have come into contact before the wheel / arch collided.

Could the twisting unseat the air bags??
 
Sounds like the air bags have failed or there is a compressor problem - is the dreaded EAS ERROR message showing on the dash when you start - and does the suspension level out after starting?
Sorry to hear about the dodgy dealer - sometimes its better to pay a bit more for a decent vehicle, everyone seems to want these P38s for nothing or close to it these days, I've not had any luck selling mine yet at well below the Glass guide price and with £2K extras AND its not a dodgy mess!!!! Best of luck getting it sorted.
 
No faults reading and when I start it the access mode light flashes (I guess this is because the suspension has dropped below this setting) and it levels out. Could the bags have popped?? as I havent tried to raise it today.

I thought I paid reasonable money for it at just a snip under the 5k it was advertised at.
 
What a shame Jay, seems you paid quite a bit - my Rangie is up for a similar price and is superb by comparison - have a look in the For Sale ads on this forum! Plus I'm offering a brand new Faultmate and a load of extras included in the price!!!!! Maybe if you get your cash back, you can come and have a look at my venerable old gal - also, Irish Rover has seen her "in the flesh" and can tell you what a nice vehicle it is. Whatever happens, hope you get sorted.
 
Its normal for the Access Light to flash when you start the car and the suspension levels itself out - then it stops, usually at normal ride height, starts flashing again on motorway at higher speed,suspension lowers a bit and settles then light stops flashing again, plus you can raise or lower it manually as well. As long as the light stops flashing and the car levels out, the compressor is probably working ok, but the air bags may be leaking, hence the drop when the car is parked up. Or perhaps its something to do with the twisted axle?? Don't envy you on this one - I would insist on returning the car as not fit for purpose as previously advised on this thread.......
 
At MHM's request I have posted a condensed version of advice on

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/buying-crock-****-if-you-already-have-76002.html#post1255370
 
Amblecote, about 10mins away from me then.

What do you do then??? I can supply a nice crate of beer or what ever if you have a spare hour or two!!!!

Really need it looking at urgently, got it booked in with a garage tomorrow for general inspection.

Gone through the paper work Re MOT and contacting VOSA, the MOT was carried out just before the Trader I got it from purchased it.

So this isnt going to help my case reference putting pressure on him.
 
Well I havent started it up, so not sure if the air bag is completly mullered, I will do it tonight in hope that it inflates enough to get me to the garage.

Else it going to have to be recovered there for the inspection.
 
Mine did when one of the rear airbags broke, although it was only lightly touching - enough to make a scraping noise anyway.

I've got 18" Hurricanes, even with the caravan on the hitch when it went down to the bump stops nothing touched.
Bearing in mind the increased articulation from Gen 3's does not cause a problem, there should be adequate clearance under all conditions unless you have oversized bling wheels.
If not it sounds like you have a problem.
 
I've got 18" Hurricanes, even with the caravan on the hitch when it went down to the bump stops nothing touched.
Bearing in mind the increased articulation from Gen 3's does not cause a problem, there should be adequate clearance under all conditions unless you have oversized bling wheels.
If not it sounds like you have a problem.

It may have had something to do with the fact that the other 3 were still at off road height so it wasn't exactly level. The EAS was still trying to pump the broken corner up.
 
could mine be that because everything appears to be out of line, and the side that is touching the arch is the side that the wheel is recessed in rather alot. Its actually missed the bump stop all together???
 
I gotta say here Jay ... that car of yours sounds a "REET DOG" mate .... if the body/rear axle is THAT far out its WAAAYYYY Dangerous mate ...be very careful ...

Surely it MUST be "CRABBIN" down the road ...Get someone to follow you on a SHORT drive Try & get a vid of it ...
 
Mine did when one of the rear airbags broke, although it was only lightly touching - enough to make a scraping noise anyway.


could it be the bump stop rubbers are frigged???? causin it to sit even lower, i no my rear 1s are non existant...:doh:
 
Good shout about getting someone to follow. I have just started it up and pumped the suspension up to the highest setting and going to see how much is drops over the next few hours.

I agree, I got myself a right hound!!!!
 
Inspection carried out this, the car has been deemed as unsafe for use on the public highway!!!
OS is 5mm shorter than NS
Repairs of a poor standard to the underside
Repairs of a poor standard to the exhaust
Both rear brake lines leaking
Front diff leaking
rear main oil seal leaking
Head leaking
Rocker leaking
Both CV Gators worn and not attached
OS CV joint knackared, its bone dry and knocking
Air suspension is now collapsing within an hour of been parked up.

Informed the Trader and awaiting him to come back to me.
 
Inspection carried out this, the car has been deemed as unsafe for use on the public highway!!!
OS is 5mm shorter than NS
Repairs of a poor standard to the underside
Repairs of a poor standard to the exhaust
Both rear brake lines leaking
Front diff leaking
rear main oil seal leaking
Head leaking
Rocker leaking
Both CV Gators worn and not attached
OS CV joint knackared, its bone dry and knocking
Air suspension is now collapsing within an hour of been parked up.

Informed the Trader and awaiting him to come back to me.

Report the Trader to Trading Standards and sue him for damages (no win no fee) for endangering your life by selling an unroadworthy vehicle.
 
Jay ..Don't forget when he offeres you your money back (Which he WILL Just to save face) to say you need "Out of Pocket" expenses for your time, inconvienience, Inspection & MENTAL ANGUISH caused to both YOU & your WIFE whilst having the outright sack of ****e he sold you ....


THIS May of assistance to you in the VERY NEAR future >>>>>>>

Sale of Goods Act, Faulty Goods.
Relevant or Related Legislation:

Sale of Goods Act 1979. Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982. Sale and Supply of Goods Act 1994. The Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002.
Key Facts:

• Wherever goods are bought they must "conform to contract". This means they must be as described, fit for purpose and of satisfactory quality (i.e. not inherently faulty at the time of sale).

• Goods are of satisfactory quality if they reach the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking into account the price and any description.

• Aspects of quality include fitness for purpose, freedom from minor defects, appearance and finish, durability and safety.

• It is the seller, not the manufacturer, who is responsible if goods do not conform to contract.

• If goods do not conform to contract at the time of sale, purchasers can request their money back "within a reasonable time". (This is not defined and will depend on circumstances)

• For up to six years after purchase (five years from discovery in Scotland) purchasers can demand damages (which a court would equate to the cost of a repair or replacement).

• A purchaser who is a consumer, i.e. is not buying in the course of a business, can alternatively request a repair or replacement.

• If repair and replacement are not possible or too costly, then the consumer can seek a partial refund, if they have had some benefit from the good, or a full refund if the fault/s have meant they have enjoyed no benefit

• In general, the onus is on all purchasers to prove the goods did not conform to contract (e.g. was inherently faulty) and should have reasonably lasted until this point in time (i.e. perishable goods do not last for six years).

• If a consumer chooses to request a repair or replacement, then for the first six months after purchase it will be for the retailer to prove the goods did conform to contract (e.g. were not inherently faulty)

• After six months and until the end of the six years, it is for the consumer to prove the lack of conformity.


Good luck & let us know how you get on with the seller ....


Keith
 
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