Define maximum, safest, least fuss?

What do you want to do with em? Do you want to drive at 100mph on wet tarmac and corner at 60mph?

Do you want to overload em weight or pressure wise?

What do yu mean by least fuss? in what respect?

what wheels are you wanting to fit the tyres on?

I've fitted 265/75/16 insa turbo special tracks to my 110. The only mod I had to make was to adjust one of the steering stops. Being wider than the standard 235/85/16 tyres they throw mud/grit salt etc up the side windows. It can be a pain in the arse to have to keep cleaning them.

> What do you want to do with em?
Mainly trundle along tarmac and on muddy fields at normal speeds, and very occasionally go 60MPH max on dual carriageways.

> Do you want to overload em weight or pressure wise?
Nothing major. Will be towing trailers of firewood, but nothing too heavy.

> What do yu mean by least fuss? in what respect?
In respect of not having to make any modifications to accomodate the tyres, such as adding lift. I'd prefer to just replace the existing tyres with wider, mud capable ones, but don't want to strain anything that may lead to further problems.

> what wheels are you wanting to fit the tyres on?
Annoyingly, mine is at the garage at the moment. But I'll find out this week. Here is a piccie of the 110 with current wheels, just in case it helps:

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> What do you want to do with em?
Mainly trundle along tarmac and on muddy fields at normal speeds, and very occasionally go 60MPH max on dual carriageways.

Most mud tyres should be capable of doing that

> Do you want to overload em weight or pressure wise?
Nothing major. Will be towing trailers of firewood, but nothing too heavy.

Sounds like you want summit with an open, self cleaning tread pattern but also with a strong sidewall.

> What do yu mean by least fuss? in what respect?
In respect of not having to make any modifications to accomodate the tyres, such as adding lift. I'd prefer to just replace the existing tyres with wider, mud capable ones, but don't want to strain anything that may lead to further problems.

Adjusting lock stops can reduce turning circle but I find the mud/salt/spray up the side windows more annoying than the lack of steering lock

> what wheels are you wanting to fit the tyres on?
Annoyingly, mine is at the garage at the moment. But I'll find out this week. Here is a piccie of the 110 with current wheels, just in case it helps:

Remember that tyre size is also dictated by wheel size.

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i have seen alot of tyres performing and i have narrowed it down to the best two road legal tyres i can find for a reasonable price

insa turbo special track VS greenway anacondas

please let me know which it the best

both cost about £55 each, and both have the same amount of tread.

which is the worst for sidewall tearing
which has the best self cleaning

Nobody will really know which is better, as few people will do back to back tests on such tyres. So mostly it'll come down to preference, which is really people liking what they have and nothing scientific.

I'd check out Fedima tyres too, they do reinforced sidewalls if you want to pay a bit more. Still based on the Simex Extreme Trakker like the others.
 
special tracks got the same/copied tread pattern to the Simex.
Have been very happy with mine
They have, although not quite the same thing though. Some Simex's are crossply not radial. And they also tend to keep their edge better, so perform better for longer off road and arguably better on it.

I run Jungle Trekker II Simex's, I've also run or used several different remoulds of varying tread pattern, some great, some less so. The Simex's are however superior in every single way.
 
They have, although not quite the same thing though. Some Simex's are crossply not radial. And they also tend to keep their edge better, so perform better for longer off road and arguably better on it.

I run Jungle Trekker II Simex's, I've also run or used several different remoulds of varying tread pattern, some great, some less so. The Simex's are however superior in every single way.

Did you need to add lift/any modifications to your Defender to add the Jungle Trekker II Simex's? Any problems after installation?
 
I have the Kumho kl71 on mine and am very happy with them to early what sort of mileage I will get from them but tbh I dont care all I want them to do is stop me getting stuck and they prretty much have done that. oh and they look pretty nice as well lol
 
Did you need to add lift/any modifications to your Defender to add the Jungle Trekker II Simex's? Any problems after installation?
They went on my Disco Tdi :D

stock suspension but trimmed arches and trimmed front aftermarket arches. They then didn't rub at all.

They are 33.11.50R15's which are bigger than a 290/90R15. Although against the tape measure they where around 34" tall.

Ran them 15x8 8 spoke rims. For ALRC events just the rims, although I have some 1" wheel spacers I used from time to time to gain additional steering lock.

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The same wheels/tyres have been used on what was my brothers factory V8 90. This has non standard suspension, although it was on it when bought, so we don't know what it is. It's a lot stiffer than stock so handles well, but rides hard. When parked up next to a standard 90 it appears to sit about 1" higher.

The Simex's went straight on, although under flex off road they did rub the rear wheel arch spats a bit, not enough to cause damage, but enough to be annoying. If they were on the 90 long term I think you'd have wanted to trim the wheel spats back a tad:
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Hi Landyman,

Got my 110 back and checked the current tyre size, which is: 205/80/R16

I'd like the new ones to be mud and come roughly to the wheel arches without rubbing or wearing any other parts too much.

Something from this range would be nice.

Thanks.

235/85R16 is your best bet tbh, they simply fit straight on without rubbing, will even fit standard Landy rims too.

You might have to adjust the steering stops a tad, but this is easy to do.
 
Would also be a good idea not goin too big with tyres, unless you either have modded axles or like replacing half shafts.
235/85r16 do the job nicely
 
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They have, although not quite the same thing though. Some Simex's are crossply not radial. And they also tend to keep their edge better, so perform better for longer off road and arguably better on it.

I run Jungle Trekker II Simex's, I've also run or used several different remoulds of varying tread pattern, some great, some less so. The Simex's are however superior in every single way.

thats a classic not read the reply, reply.
Brill:D
 
Would also be a good idea not goin too big with tyres, unless you either have modded axles or like replacing half shafts.
235/85r16 do the job nicely

How about the rims. I'd like an offset that goes very near the arches without spacers. Had a look at Paddocks, but they seem quite expensive per wheel. Was only hoping to spend £125 max per wheel (including tyre). Perhaps that is optimistic.
 
How about the rims. I'd like an offset that goes very near the arches without spacers. Had a look at Paddocks, but they seem quite expensive per wheel. Was only hoping to spend £125 max per wheel (including tyre). Perhaps that is optimistic.
In short, there are lots of options available, all are right, but not everyone likes them all.

You main options include:

1. Buy some new steel rims, either 8 spokes, modulars or similar. Most have a deeper dish offset, even more so if they are 8" wide. Not sure on price, but last time I bought some you could get them for £25-35/rim. If you buy a package of rims and tyres together you'll likely save on fitting and balancing, else budget £15-20 per tyre for this at a local tyre shop.

Quality of steel rims varies, but I've not had much joy ever in finding out who sells the good ones and who doesn't. All I can say is, they will likely rust, mine did within a year of being on the vehicle. Hence the pics above show my Disco with white rims and later on with grey ones (I hammerited them).

2. Buy some used steel rims. Same as above but maybe cheaper, although you'll need to pay for fitting and balancing and likely some paint.

If you want to stick with a Landy look, then you could find some used 109 One Ton rims. These are a deep dish version of the standard Landy rim. Vasses sell them for around £25-30/rim.

3. Wheel spacers. Some hate these, but the way I look at it, they don't do anything any different really to a deeper off set rim. As long as they are quality spacer and hubcentric I can't really see a problem. If you think about it, if you took a standard Landy rim and welded a spacer to the back of it, then milled out the nave plate to allow you countersink the hub nuts so you could bolt it on. It would be doing 100% the same thing as any other deep offset rim, all you've done is moved the centre line of the rim further away from the vehicle. The only difference is a wheel spacer has an extra set of bolts.



- One thing to watch for, do you plan on doing any sort of off road competitions such as RTV trials? If so, then make sure what you pick can be used. As a rule wheel spacers are prohibited from ALRC events, they also only allow a max of 4" from the naive plate to the outer flange of the rim, so some deep dish rims aren't permitted.


-If you are wanting a more beefy look, then a 235/85 might not be the best answer as they are quite narrow.

If that's the case and you are wanting new rims, then maybe a swap to a 31.10.50R15 tyre would be something to consider. The KL71's are available in this size and are slightly cheaper than the 235's.

The 31.10.50 is wider (about 267mm) and a very similar height. Run them on some 15x10 8 spokes or modular rims and they should fill the arches nicely and give you that wider stance. The wider tyre means it might rub the front radius arm a little more, but you would have had to adjust the steering stops with the 235's, so it's only an extra turn or so on the bolts.
 
One thing to watch for, do you plan on doing any sort of off road competitions such as RTV trials?

Not at all. I need mud tyres solely for forestry work.

If you are wanting a more beefy look, then a 235/85 might not be the best answer as they are quite narrow.

If that's the case and you are wanting new rims, then maybe a swap to a 31.10.50R15 tyre would be something to consider. The KL71's are available in this size and are slightly cheaper than the 235's.

The 31.10.50 is wider (about 267mm) and a very similar height. Run them on some 15x10 8 spokes or modular rims and they should fill the arches nicely and give you that wider stance. The wider tyre means it might rub the front radius arm a little more, but you would have had to adjust the steering stops with the 235's, so it's only an extra turn or so on the bolts.

Thanks for all the info. That clears a lot up.

This tyre measurement "31.10.50R15" is new to me. Is this metric or something else?

What's the difference between 8 spokes and modular rims?

Once again, thanks for the info.
 

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