john snoo said:
Sorry, my mistake. I want 255/65/16, not 55 aspect ratio.
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Fair enough, but you would still be better off going for a readily available size like 245/70/16. That way if you need to replace a tyre in the middle of nowhere you would not be stuck for days waiting for one to be sourced and delivered.
 
stuck for days? I have the AA don't you know?
****, I have a feeling that didn't do my forum-cred much good. :D

furry muff - good advice probably, but i am sticking to the standard specs and be damned, 255/65/16 it is :)

General Grabbers look like the only way forward. If the AT3s are as good as other GGATs.

Cheers
 
john snoo said:
but i am sticking to the standard specs and be damned, 255/65/16 it is
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235/70R16 210.0kph (130.48mph)
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255/65R16 210.0kph (130.48mph)
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255/60R17 210.0kph (130.48mph)
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255/55R18 210.0kph (130.48mph)
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255/50R19 240.0kph (149.12mph)
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According to the above, which you were provided with a few posts back, 255/65/16 is only one of the two spec tyre sizes for 16" wheels for your 2004 Disco 2. Why not try the other size, see if there are more available?
 
Stanleysteamer said:
235/70R16 210.0kph (130.48mph)
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255/65R16 210.0kph (130.48mph)
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255/60R17 210.0kph (130.48mph)
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255/55R18 210.0kph (130.48mph)
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255/50R19 240.0kph (149.12mph)
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According to the above, which you were provided with a few posts back, 255/65/16 is only one of the two spec tyre sizes for 16" wheels for your 2004 Disco 2. Why not try the other size, see if there are more available?
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o_O
 
Ah sorry I thought it was a forum code fart.

Yes, there's two. I decided on the 255 rather than 235. He suggested 245 above which was what I was referring to when I said I wanted to keep standard, but yes you're right there are two standards, neither of which are 245 :)

thanks
 
john snoo said:
Ah sorry I thought it was a forum code fart.

Yes, there's two. I decided on the 255 rather than 235. He suggested 245 above which was what I was referring to when I said I wanted to keep standard, but yes you're right there are two standards, neither of which are 245 :)

thanks
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I do fart but not on the forum and never in code!
 
Ha. Generals own spec sheet seems to suggest the 255/65/16 tyres can be fitted to any wheel size from 7J to 9J. I get the feeling people wouldn't agree on here?
It's an important question too as I have 5 7J 16" D2 wheels but will be buying a set of 8J wheels purely to fit these GG AT 3s on!
 

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I fitted both standard dimensions(235/70, 255/65) and other non standards too(245/70, 255/70) on 7Js as i have two sets of them and never had any issues with the wheels/tyres
 
That's very interesting thanks. My head says theoretically the wider rim would spread the load more evenly through the tyre, but my head is often full of 5hit :D
Sure would save a few quid if it was doable. Thanks
 
I get why you say that, but if you had someone about to do brain surgery on you, would you rather they "over thought" it, or "under thought" it?! I have read and heard stories about risks of tyres coming off rims under side load, causing sudden decrompression and serious results. With a 7 seater, and 4 kids, I don't think over thinking is a bad thing before choosing the tyres I will be carrying them on for the next 5 years or so :)
Having said that, I know you know your 5hit, so if you deem it safe, that's 99% good enough for me. I am just double checking because as authorititaive as you sound, I don;t actually know you and so i think it's only sensible to make sure, this is a safety issue after all, not a preference thing
 
Tyres can be a personal thing as well.

Just because someone says that a particular tyre is good doesn't mean that you'll like them. ;)
 
Yep, completely agree. Thats why I read so many different reviews and stuff, just to try and see if peolpe are just "following the herd" as SO many people do. Amazon reviews have taught me a lot about that over the years!
 
john snoo said:
I get why you say that, but if you had someone about to do brain surgery on you, would you rather they "over thought" it, or "under thought" it?! I have read and heard stories about risks of tyres coming off rims under side load, causing sudden decrompression and serious results. With a 7 seater, and 4 kids, I don't think over thinking is a bad thing before choosing the tyres I will be carrying them on for the next 5 years or so :)
Having said that, I know you know your 5hit, so if you deem it safe, that's 99% good enough for me. I am just double checking because as authorititaive as you sound, I don;t actually know you and so i think it's only sensible to make sure, this is a safety issue after all, not a preference thing
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If you are worried about safety you have to trust the manufacturer to get it as right as possible. In which case go with the sizes they recommend. Then you will have done the maximum you can to protect yourself and family.
 
john snoo said:
Thats why I read so many different reviews and stuff, just to try and see if peolpe are just "following the herd" as SO many people do.
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Don't think there are too many herd followers around here.

I understand that you want to stick to the manufacturers original size specification for safety reasons, but the tyre type will have a much more drastic effect upon how the car drives and performs than will small changes in width or profile. So, playing Devil's Advocate, should you not be fitting the tyre type specified by Land Rover? Which would be a Goodyear Wrangler or a Michelin XPC on both 7Js and 8Js. Their modern equivalents are both probably better road tyres than ATs. It seems odd that you would lecture Sierrafery on safety because he suggests even a minor deviation from the Owners Manual in terms of rim and tyre size, but then you plan to put on tyres with a 50:50 off road bias and which by your argument would be less safe on road than Land Rover's specification.

OTOH the fact that you have chosen to swap 18" rims for 16" in order to improve off road ability, and to fit ATs for the same reason, suggests that you have (to a small degree) embraced the adaptability of your Land Rover and are willing to move away from the road-biased, yuppie wagon that D2s are in standard form, and which Land Rover have specialised in ever since. Time to recognise that the beauty of Defenders, early Discos and Range Rovers is that they were made to be driven all over the world in a wide range of conditions and circumstances, and that Land Rover anticipated that a wide range of modifications would be fitted, and designed the vehicles to allow it. In particular, encouraging and even facilitating substantial modifications for extreme off road and overland use. Land Rover owners tend to break from the herd and adapt their vehicles to suit their needs and much of the chat on this site is about how to do that safely. Tyres and tyre sizes are common topics of discussion, but it is rare that so much time is spent discussing which standard tyre to fit. My recommendation remains to fit 245/70/16 BFG KO2s they will be cheaper and more readily available than 255/65/16s, they will fit your 7Js without an issue, will drive beautifully on road, cut through mud better off road, look great and last forever. You will probably never notice the 1.7% greater circumference than standard or the fractionally better motorway cruise performance.
 
Si Click said:
Don't think there are too many herd followers around here.

I understand that you want to stick to the manufacturers original size specification for safety reasons, but the tyre type will have a much more drastic effect upon how the car drives and performs than will small changes in width or profile. So, playing Devil's Advocate, should you not be fitting the tyre type specified by Land Rover? Which would be a Goodyear Wrangler or a Michelin XPC on both 7Js and 8Js. Their modern equivalents are both probably better road tyres than ATs. It seems odd that you would lecture Sierrafery on safety because he suggests even a minor deviation from the Owners Manual in terms of rim and tyre size, but then you plan to put on tyres with a 50:50 off road bias and which by your argument would be less safe on road than Land Rover's specification.

OTOH the fact that you have chosen to swap 18" rims for 16" in order to improve off road ability, and to fit ATs for the same reason, suggests that you have (to a small degree) embraced the adaptability of your Land Rover and are willing to move away from the road-biased, yuppie wagon that D2s are in standard form, and which Land Rover have specialised in ever since. Time to recognise that the beauty of Defenders, early Discos and Range Rovers is that they were made to be driven all over the world in a wide range of conditions and circumstances, and that Land Rover anticipated that a wide range of modifications would be fitted, and designed the vehicles to allow it. In particular, encouraging and even facilitating substantial modifications for extreme off road and overland use. Land Rover owners tend to break from the herd and adapt their vehicles to suit their needs and much of the chat on this site is about how to do that safely. Tyres and tyre sizes are common topics of discussion, but it is rare that so much time is spent discussing which standard tyre to fit. My recommendation remains to fit 245/70/16 BFG KO2s they will be cheaper and more readily available than 255/65/16s, they will fit your 7Js without an issue, will drive beautifully on road, cut through mud better off road, look great and last forever. You will probably never notice the 1.7% greater circumference than standard or the fractionally better motorway cruise performance.
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+1 ^^^
 
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