burtonboy
New Member
Hi, Jason
I'm in burton on trent as well
not had to buy any yet - so don't know where to get it near here
We've only really got Halfords or Motormania in burton - like you say Halfords don't do it - just phoned Motormania they said ' no mate - texaco mtf-94 - you'll have to get it from a Texaco garage ' only 1 problem , no Texaco garage near here - I'll try & find the nearest one - although there's no guarantee they'll have it !
I think i've read somewhere (may have been on here) that you can get it from Ford garages - will give the local one a bell & let you know.
I'm in burton on trent as well
not had to buy any yet - so don't know where to get it near here
We've only really got Halfords or Motormania in burton - like you say Halfords don't do it - just phoned Motormania they said ' no mate - texaco mtf-94 - you'll have to get it from a Texaco garage ' only 1 problem , no Texaco garage near here - I'll try & find the nearest one - although there's no guarantee they'll have it !
I think i've read somewhere (may have been on here) that you can get it from Ford garages - will give the local one a bell & let you know.
burtonboy
New Member
update - just rang local ford dealers - 'sorry mate - never heard of it!'
tried a couple of other local places - no-one seems to stock it or even heard of it
will keep trying & let you know - good job I found out how hard it is to get round here for when i do need it
should be able to get it from main dealer , but nearest one would be Stafford Land Rover - about 25/30 miles away.
When are they leaving? ther must be someone online who sells it.
come on folks - lets help jason out - anyone know where to get mtf-94 (taxaco) gearbox oil in the Burton/Derby area
tried a couple of other local places - no-one seems to stock it or even heard of it
will keep trying & let you know - good job I found out how hard it is to get round here for when i do need it
should be able to get it from main dealer , but nearest one would be Stafford Land Rover - about 25/30 miles away.
When are they leaving? ther must be someone online who sells it.
come on folks - lets help jason out - anyone know where to get mtf-94 (taxaco) gearbox oil in the Burton/Derby area
Jason2
Well-Known Member
Cheers Burtonboy, Top man
That would be fantastic mate as the people who will be getting it for me and bringing it out wont know the difference between gearbox oil & Fish n chip stuff Jason
burtonboy
New Member
update Jason, found a Texaco garage a couple of miles outta town - will check if they sell it on my way home tonight or on my way in in the morning & let you know in the morning
where do your Burton peeps live ? - the garage is in on the A511 (Ashby Road) if thats anywhere near them.
If they don't have it - it looks like an online order job. - how much do you need - 5L for a complete change or just 1L for topup ?
where do your Burton peeps live ? - the garage is in on the A511 (Ashby Road) if thats anywhere near them.
If they don't have it - it looks like an online order job. - how much do you need - 5L for a complete change or just 1L for topup ?
Jason2
Well-Known Member
I think that they live near there
I need 2.7 litres for an oil change, recently fitted a re-con box and as I could'nt get any MTF-94 here (not even from local Land Rover garage) was forced to put in ATF Dexron 111 for a quick fix.It's a another long debate (is'nt it cpx2?) what oil should be in there, Land Rover changed there spec in 1996 to MTF, the company that sold me the box advised MTF,I want to put MTF in if I can find some of the blooooody stuff!
Thanks once again for your help
Jason
burtonboy
New Member
now we know the LR part No. (thanxs to cipx) found a couple of places that sell it online (STC 9157 gear oil man. trans. )
Rimmer Bros - £18.99 / 5L
LR Direst - £21.09 / 5L
have your peeps got time to order it and get it delivered before they leave ?
the workshop manual for my 2001 TD5 states 'Texaco MTF-94 or Dexron 111 if MTF-94 is not available'
just wonder what all the other discos I see every day are using ?
I was told by a local garage I rang it was always readily available from any Rover dealers , but now they've all bit the dust it looks like its a landrover main dealer / specialist job.
Rimmer Bros - £18.99 / 5L
LR Direst - £21.09 / 5L
have your peeps got time to order it and get it delivered before they leave ?
the workshop manual for my 2001 TD5 states 'Texaco MTF-94 or Dexron 111 if MTF-94 is not available'
just wonder what all the other discos I see every day are using ?
I was told by a local garage I rang it was always readily available from any Rover dealers , but now they've all bit the dust it looks like its a landrover main dealer / specialist job.
Jason phone Morris Lubricants and ask for their technical dept, you dont actually need MTF-94 it can be substituted for a different oil. 01743 232200
Regards
Riggaz
Jason2
Well-Known Member
I already phoned a similar place up here, 2 aperatives, 3 course meal & 3 bottles of red later they came back with ATF Dexron 111 being the only oil that they could recomend for the R380 box
I already phoned a similar place up here, 2 aperatives, 3 course meal & 3 bottles of red later they came back with ATF Dexron 111 being the only oil that they could recomend for the R380 box
That sounds about right mate, dextron 3 is fairly high grade stuff. Give Morris a ring they do know what they're doing
Riggaz
burtonboy
New Member
It would be handy to know if that Texaco garage has the stuff burtonboy,I mean if they aint got it and supposedly make the stuff what chance we got eh? No rush as mi peeps are'nt coming out until the 20th October
Cheers Jason
Called at the Texaco garage this morning - all they had was a few dusty cans of 'Q8' & 'Halvoline' engine oils no gearbox oils at all - asked the spotty 17 year old behind the counter who said (after he'd unplugged his ipod & put down his comic ) 'nah mate that's all we got'
To be honest it was only a small filling station with a couple of pumps & a few stale pork pies & sarnies - didn't even have any wilting flowers or bags of BBQ charcoal outside !
Sorry mate, can't get the bloody stuff anywhere around the Burton area - has a good search on the web & can't find anywhere selling MTF-94 - all you get are links to various forums asking ' where the f**k can I get MTF-94'
I think your best bet it to get your peeps to order it from Rimmer Bros
Rimmer Brothers - Price List
enter part no STC9157 to get price in pounds or euros
or order it youself & get it delivered over there -but looked on their website & delivery to all EC countries for items between 2kg & 30kg is £25 to £35 so delivery would be more than the stuff itself !
2-3 day carrier delivery in the uk is about £12
Jason2
Well-Known Member
Called at the Texaco garage this morning - all they had was a few dusty cans of 'Q8' & 'Halvoline' engine oils no gearbox oils at all - asked the spotty 17 year old behind the counter who said (after he'd unplugged his ipod & put down his comic ) 'nah mate that's all we got'
To be honest it was only a small filling station with a couple of pumps & a few stale pork pies & sarnies - didn't even have any wilting flowers or bags of BBQ charcoal outside !
Sorry mate, can't get the bloody stuff anywhere around the Burton area - has a good search on the web & can't find anywhere selling MTF-94 - all you get are links to various forums asking ' where the f**k can I get MTF-94'
I think your best bet it to get your peeps to order it from Rimmer Bros
Rimmer Brothers - Price List
enter part no STC9157 to get price in pounds or euros
or order it youself & get it delivered over there -but looked on their website & delivery to all EC countries for items between 2kg & 30kg is £25 to £35 so delivery would be more than the stuff itself !
2-3 day carrier delivery in the uk is about £12
Thanks a lot for your trouble burtonboy, I appreciate it
Have one of your ale's on me
Bollix to it, last box did 130k with out an oil change with Dexron 11 to the best of my knowledge, at least last owner admited that he had'nt changed it in the last 8 years/70k so the Dexron 111's staying in for the time being!!!!
Thanks once again
Jason
burtonboy
New Member
ridiculous aint it - mtf 94 is recommended for most r380 gearboxes in discos, & lots of rover cars but you can't get the bloody stuff anywhere
as I said the manual for my 2001 TD5 says you can use dexron 111 if mtf 94 is not available
Just to complicate matters, while trawling the web I have come across several recomendations of Castrol SMS-X as a replacement for MTF-94 - this is also what the Ford guy recommended when I gave him the spec of MTF-94 (ie GL-4 75W80 ) although the specs i found say this a fully synthetic 75W85 & it is what castrol list for a disco manual on their website
see the attached doc from another forum (supposed to be from land rover press release )
makes me wonder what's in mine - according to the service book the gearbox oil was changed at 72K & topped up at 84K by Stafford Landrover so I presume they used MTF-94 , now done just over 93K.
as I said the manual for my 2001 TD5 says you can use dexron 111 if mtf 94 is not available
Just to complicate matters, while trawling the web I have come across several recomendations of Castrol SMS-X as a replacement for MTF-94 - this is also what the Ford guy recommended when I gave him the spec of MTF-94 (ie GL-4 75W80 ) although the specs i found say this a fully synthetic 75W85 & it is what castrol list for a disco manual on their website
see the attached doc from another forum (supposed to be from land rover press release )
makes me wonder what's in mine - according to the service book the gearbox oil was changed at 72K & topped up at 84K by Stafford Landrover so I presume they used MTF-94 , now done just over 93K.
burtonboy
New Member
just found this on the rave cd under 'Technical Bulletins'
TECHNICAL BULLETIN
MODEL/DERIVATIVE: Bulletin N o : 0007
Range Rover
Discovery / New Discovery
CDS. ref: L8462bu
Issue: 2
AFFECTED RANGE:
All R380 manual gearbox derivatives - refer to text for specific change points
All Freelander
RE - ISSUE INFORMATION:
Incorrect specification reference deleted from PARTS INFORMATION.
Please destroy your existing copy and replace with this Issue 2.
PROBLEM:
GEARBOX OIL - CHANGE TO SPECIFICATION
CAUSE:
At the following VINs, the original oil fill specification for the R380 gearbox was
changed to Texaco MTF94 high performance oil:
Range Rover - WA 384300
Discovery - WA 752315
Defender - WA 131138
New Discovery - All vehicles
The Freelander PG1 gearbox has used the new oil since introduction of the model.
ACTION:
MTF94 will be recognised by its orange/honey colour as opposed to the red
Dexron II oil previously used, and is now available from Land Rover Parts.
It is now the only oil which should be used for topping up and complete fill on
R380/PG1 gearbox applications.
The new oil is compatible with the old and to enable earlier vehicles to benefit from
its introduction, should be used retrospectively on vehicles prior to the above VINs
for all top up and refill requirements.
Refer to PARTS INFORMATIONoverleaf for details.
Until further notice, current Service Schedule gearbox oil change periods are
retained and must be adhered to.
PARTS INFORMATION:
STC9157 - Gearbox oil - 5 Litre
STC9158 - Gearbox oil - 1 Litre
MTF94 oil meets requirement RES.57.02.593.
Overseas Markets Only:
In markets where importing of fluids is restricted, Dealers should contact their
vehicle Importer or National Sales Company for advice.
Importers and National Sales Companies should consult Texaco Ltd at the following
address to identify their most suitable contact point for negotiating local supply of
this product:
Texaco Ltd
Lubricants Division
Stoke on Trent
England
Telephone 0044 1782 203111
Fax 0044 1782 203144
TECHNICAL BULLETIN
MODEL/DERIVATIVE: Bulletin N o : 0007
Range Rover
Discovery / New Discovery
CDS. ref: L8462bu
Issue: 2
AFFECTED RANGE:
All R380 manual gearbox derivatives - refer to text for specific change points
All Freelander
RE - ISSUE INFORMATION:
Incorrect specification reference deleted from PARTS INFORMATION.
Please destroy your existing copy and replace with this Issue 2.
PROBLEM:
GEARBOX OIL - CHANGE TO SPECIFICATION
CAUSE:
At the following VINs, the original oil fill specification for the R380 gearbox was
changed to Texaco MTF94 high performance oil:
Range Rover - WA 384300
Discovery - WA 752315
Defender - WA 131138
New Discovery - All vehicles
The Freelander PG1 gearbox has used the new oil since introduction of the model.
ACTION:
MTF94 will be recognised by its orange/honey colour as opposed to the red
Dexron II oil previously used, and is now available from Land Rover Parts.
It is now the only oil which should be used for topping up and complete fill on
R380/PG1 gearbox applications.
The new oil is compatible with the old and to enable earlier vehicles to benefit from
its introduction, should be used retrospectively on vehicles prior to the above VINs
for all top up and refill requirements.
Refer to PARTS INFORMATIONoverleaf for details.
Until further notice, current Service Schedule gearbox oil change periods are
retained and must be adhered to.
PARTS INFORMATION:
STC9157 - Gearbox oil - 5 Litre
STC9158 - Gearbox oil - 1 Litre
MTF94 oil meets requirement RES.57.02.593.
Overseas Markets Only:
In markets where importing of fluids is restricted, Dealers should contact their
vehicle Importer or National Sales Company for advice.
Importers and National Sales Companies should consult Texaco Ltd at the following
address to identify their most suitable contact point for negotiating local supply of
this product:
Texaco Ltd
Lubricants Division
Stoke on Trent
England
Telephone 0044 1782 203111
Fax 0044 1782 203144
What about this stuff, might be easier to find
www.morrislubricantsonline.co.uk/Site Folder/Resources/Lodexol_MTF.pdf
Riggaz
www.morrislubricantsonline.co.uk/Site Folder/Resources/Lodexol_MTF.pdf
Riggaz
burtonboy
New Member
Yeah - I emailed these guys yesterday asking what they would recommend for the R380 Manual gearbox but they never got back to me
Its the same gl4 75w80 spec so looks ok - £30 inc vat & delivery in uk - looks like i'll be ordering some of this
