tomcat59alan · Nov 30, 2018

Henry_b said:
People of my age tend to like to waste away in front of computer screens..

My old lecturers say the mechanic is a dying breed as the old ones retire..

TBH a nice oily workshop is my happy place

I can think of a happier place as long as it's well lubricated.

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
I can think of a happier place ad long as it's well lubricated. 9

"smirk"

I can imagine you slipping around a workshop in ya Gimpsuit..

tomcat59alan · Nov 30, 2018

Henry_b said:
"smirk"

I can imagine you slipping around a workshop in ya Gimpsuit..

You mean pulling myself around my garage.

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
You mean pulling myself around my garage.

Oh YOUR garage

Would like to have one of my own some day..

Gimp suit and all

Datatek · Nov 30, 2018

Henry_b said:
Oh YOUR garage

Would like to have one of my own some day..

Gimp suit and all

If you are serious about having your own garage, it's electronics you need to study. Plenty of money to be made fixing the electronic problems about which dealers haven't a clue.

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

Datatek said:
If you are serious about having your own garage, it's electronics you need to study. Plenty of money to be made fixing the electronic problems about which dealers haven't a clue.

Yep i'm serious and tbh i'm getting into electrics with the L322

tomcat59alan · Nov 30, 2018

Henry_b said:
Oh YOUR garage

Would like to have one of my own some day..

Gimp suit and all

It's only a double these days,don't do a lot but it's big enough for my needs. Had three commercial in the past those days are long gone. I can only wish you good luck and all the best for the future. The only bit of advice I can give you, if you don't mind, is , it takes years to get a good reputation and seconds to get a bad one.

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
It's only a double these days,don't do a lot but it's big enough for my needs. Had three commercial in the past it those days are long gone. I can only wish you good luck and all the best for the future. The only bit of advice I can give you, if you don't mind, is , it takes years to get a good reputation and seconds to get a bad one.

Ah cheers Alan..

I hope to get somewhere

As for a Reputation i hope to get a good one

DanClarke · Nov 30, 2018

I wish I just had a garage wider than 5' 10. All I can do in my space is my welding for my bikes.
A space to work on things in would be lovely.
A good friend of mine has been an engineer for 40 years and works in precision engineering now.
His observation is that none of the UK lads where he is (south coast) seem to want to learn real workshop stuff and the French kids that get sent over (French outfits have no appetite for teaching lads engineering stuff so they get UK firms to take them he says) really work hard and are dead keen to learn real hands on "get dirty" workshop techniques learning as much as they can.
I guess CODIV is more fun than learning how to operate a lathe or MIG/TIG weld.

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

DanClarke said:
I wish I just had a garage wider than 5' 10. All I can do in my space is my welding for my bikes.
A space to work on things in would be lovely.
A good friend of mine has been an engineer for 40 years and works in precision engineering now.
His observation is that none of the UK lads where he is (south coast) seem to want to learn real workshop stuff and the French kids that get sent over (French outfits have no appetite for teaching lads engineering stuff so they get UK firms to take them he says) really work hard and are dead keen to learn real hands on "get dirty" workshop techniques learning as much as they can.
I guess CODIV is more fun than learning how to operate a lathe or MIG/TIG weld.

It is a shame that the mechanic is a dying breed many lads are too feminine thin and lazy in the "hands on sense" to be proper mechanics and engineers.
Most can barely haul their own body weight let alone a partly built engine

And quite a few dislike oil under their nails.

And a complete lack of wanting to learn, most don't want to listen and spend most of their time fookin around

'tis a shame..

resto_d1 · Dec 1, 2018

I like it! I started learning on a lathe and cnc etc and am now wasting away infront of a computer though lol. Years after I still remember things the old school workshop lecturers said though

resto_d1 · Dec 1, 2018

Surely becoming a hybrid unit specialist is the way now too! Was just saying this the other day to my mate

Datatek · Dec 1, 2018

resto_d1 said:
Surely becoming a hybrid unit specialist is the way now too! Was just saying this the other day to my mate

Hybrid = electronics, the control systems are complex.

resto_d1 · Dec 1, 2018

Datatek said:
Hybrid = electronics, the control systems are complex.

Exactly. Complex and bespoke = good money and less people capable

DanClarke · Dec 1, 2018

resto_d1 said:
Exactly. Complex and bespoke = good money and less people capable

Why do you need "capable" people when the whole philosophy today is for more and more large and Expensive "FRU's" I think.
There is very little "component level fixing" anymore (especially at the stealer level).
The component-level fixing gets done by chaps like @martyuk and @Rick-the-Pick.

resto_d1 · Dec 1, 2018

DanClarke said:
Why do you need "capable" people when the whole philosophy today is for more and more large and Expensive "FRU's" I think.
There is very little "component level fixing" anymore (especially at the stealer level).
The component-level fixing gets done by chaps like @martyuk and @Rick-the-Pick.

Depends what your heart is in I guess. Getting in with a firm like tesla and working your way up would be a hell of a career. My mate started as a mech eng with me then went on to do electrical hnc. He now heads up a robotics team at bmw plant. The world is your oyster if you are just starting on the tools in engineering as Henry is

DanClarke · Dec 1, 2018

resto_d1 said:
Depends what your heart is in I guess. Getting in with a firm like tesla and working your way up would be a hell of a career. My mate started as a mech eng with me then went on to do electrical hnc. He now heads up a robotics team at bmw plant. The world is your oyster if you are just starting on the tools in engineering as Henry is

Agreed, if you can get a position with one of the big outfits.

Go for it @Henry_b

Datatek · Dec 1, 2018

resto_d1 said:
Depends what your heart is in I guess. Getting in with a firm like tesla and working your way up would be a hell of a career. My mate started as a mech eng with me then went on to do electrical hnc. He now heads up a robotics team at bmw plant. The world is your oyster if you are just starting on the tools in engineering as Henry is

Not sure Tesla has a future looking at the shenanigans of Musk and the huge Tesla debt pile.

Henry_b · Dec 1, 2018

DanClarke said:
Agreed, if you can get a position with one of the big outfits.
Go for it @Henry_b

The future for vehicles is uncertain tesla has taken a backseat as far as quality is concerned.

I've been offered a few apprenticeship opportunities at the likes of BMW and Land Rover..

I plan on pursuing one of them next year.

As for components, the future for the mechanic is an uncertain one, atleast in my opinion.

Cars seem to be getting more complicated as time goes on and quality seems to be diminishing at a rate just as fast..

So i'd say the future is pretty bright as far as that goes..

My Plan is to get in with one of the biggies, no point just settling in with the small garages.

Specialising in a particular field would probably be best..

resto_d1 · Dec 1, 2018

Datatek said:
Not sure Tesla has a future looking at the shenanigans of Musk and the huge Tesla debt pile.

Haha good point!!

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