I was also a victim of this scam
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Sorry to hear that. May I ask what happened? Was it the normal promise to collect, repair then return, but you haven't got it back?
We got offered their collection service,but we decided we wanted to take the car there ourselves,so we took it to sunbeam street Wolverhampton,
They too £1910.00 cash from us for a reconditioned engine and turbo,they had the car a few weeks ,it was hard to make contact,but eventually my partner went down to Wolverhampton and collected my car.
They said the work had been completed!
It was dark as it was February,so the next day my partner took a look at the engine,it was just the same and smoking like a house on fire ! So we took it back they had it until may ,we couldn't get through by phone or email,so my partner took the train back and went to the garage the car was in exactly the same state.
Jay/jaz the son of the owner,said it was a failed turbo,so it needs another, my partner said he wasn't leaving wolverhampton untill they fitted a new one.
He had to stay in a hotel over night!
The next day he returned they said the car was completed again.
So again my partner drove it back to Sheffield,!
And Boom !
Smoking like a house on fire leaking oil , nothing had been done!
We've tried calling, emailed them wrote to them , however,they've ignored us!
We took it to a local garage for a second opinion,he's stripped our engine and found it's not been touched at all !
So we're £,1910.00 out of pocket!
The car is going to cost another 2,k to fix it.
I've reported recon engines to trading standards and the police ,and have been told it's a huge scam ,these people have fake addresses allover the UK,
They have been arrested,but still are allowed to carry on trading until they get convicted!
So innocent people like myself and others are still getting conned ,so I also blame the system for allowing them to do this!
The police say there are over 400 victims!
They too £1910.00 cash from us for a reconditioned engine and turbo,they had the car a few weeks ,it was hard to make contact,but eventually my partner went down to Wolverhampton and collected my car.
They said the work had been completed!
It was dark as it was February,so the next day my partner took a look at the engine,it was just the same and smoking like a house on fire ! So we took it back they had it until may ,we couldn't get through by phone or email,so my partner took the train back and went to the garage the car was in exactly the same state.
Jay/jaz the son of the owner,said it was a failed turbo,so it needs another, my partner said he wasn't leaving wolverhampton untill they fitted a new one.
He had to stay in a hotel over night!
The next day he returned they said the car was completed again.
So again my partner drove it back to Sheffield,!
And Boom !
Smoking like a house on fire leaking oil , nothing had been done!
We've tried calling, emailed them wrote to them , however,they've ignored us!
We took it to a local garage for a second opinion,he's stripped our engine and found it's not been touched at all !
So we're £,1910.00 out of pocket!
The car is going to cost another 2,k to fix it.
I've reported recon engines to trading standards and the police ,and have been told it's a huge scam ,these people have fake addresses allover the UK,
They have been arrested,but still are allowed to carry on trading until they get convicted!
So innocent people like myself and others are still getting conned ,so I also blame the system for allowing them to do this!
The police say there are over 400 victims!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/739165373200130/ please join us if you've been a victim of recon engines wolverhampton ,click the link to our action group on Facebook
Hippo
Lord Hippo
In a strange way you're one of the luckier ones who got their car back. Its unusual for this to happen.
Did you get a receipt for handing over the cash? You have the option of going through the small claims court to get yer cash back. Its not a guaranteed win as they may choose to counter claim against you. But if you have proof of emailing and sending letters then it puts you in a good position. Its cheap to do and the process documented online. You can claim online too. If you win and they don't pay up you can push the demand to the high court. This is betterer than a bay lift as they get a writ and can force ownership if goods and take control as they have more power. While these scum bags are known to get nasty... The enforcers just call the police as their work is on behalf of a court order if theres any trouble. In essence you stand a much greater chance of getting money back via high court enforcers.
I agree its not right they can continue trading. I think trading standards have limited power and the scum bags know the loop holes to use. Their time will come but sadly not fast enough.
That's a good start.
oil dripper
Well-Known Member
Oh dear going to Crown Court
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https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2019/08/30/brothers-deny-fraud-at-wolverhampton-garage/
.https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2019/08/30/brothers-deny-fraud-at-wolverhampton-garage/
Broke Again
‘Orrible yam yam
Unconditional bail I bet they turn up in court again
Broke Again
‘Orrible yam yam
I think they got convicted at Walsall court then disappeared at sentencing
Hippo
Lord Hippo
According this this link the trial is now 15/06/2020.
https://www.expressandstar.com/news...-await-trial-after-fraudulent-trading-claims/
https://www.expressandstar.com/news...-await-trial-after-fraudulent-trading-claims/
Broke Again
‘Orrible yam yam
oh not sure then hope they get what they deserve
Just had an “interesting” experience with these folks. My Range Rover Sport broke down on the m25 on 20-Nov-19. Got the RAC to recover it to my mechanic who confirmed engine was gone and the work had to be outsourced.
We find smart engines in Wolverhampton who quotes £2800 best case and £5000 worst case scenario. Picked up the vehicle on 22-Nov after £1400 deposit payment & work was supposed to take 10 days. Got a revised invoiced a week later for £6,000 for crank shaft, turbo, engine head etc. I paid another £1,000 for the crank, at this point they were demanding an extra £2,000 to get the turbo and engine head. I spoke to my mechanic, he called them asking what the revised invoices were about after we had agreed £5,000 worst case.
We decided not to release any more funds and stood our ground. In the end, I presume they purchased the turbo and rest of material. I got sent a video of the car on a test drive on 20-Dec and they were demanding payment and pickup on the day knowing this was obviously impossible with me based in London, lots of threats to remove the engine again and ship it back to london with the engine in the boot etc. Again we held our ground, I did send a fake screenshot of the balance transferred at least to buy time. Next day I take the first train from Euston to Wolverhampton. The address on the invoice was wrong but I could deduce the area from the test drive. I had been calling on the phone and these guys had been telling me not bother coming, they were closed on Saturday, for Christmas etc.
Anyway I turn up at where I think is the garage and I see a chap in a RR sport holla at me, asking for my name, starts insulting me for not paying etc. He refused to release the car & I booked an Uber to the police station to report the car stolen. He then sends me a video of him & the car, I ignore and continue to the police. He calls my mechanic asking for funds, at this point everyone is frustrated. My mechanic calls me & ask that I go back. I go back to take some photos of the place if required by police and then he shows up again asking if I wanted my car. He asked me to get in the back of the car with his sons which I initially declined but got in just to get it over with. We go back to his garage, they start the car- I ask for a test drive which he refused vehemently. I get on the phone to my mechanic who just asks me to pay if the engine runs. I pay the balance and he hands me the keys and I drive out.
In the meantime, I had marketed the car as I do not trust any reconditioned engine job so I drive the vehicle straight from their garage to a dealer for px. I got £7.8K for it in the end. All in all, not a bitter experience like some of the folks here but these guys are not pleasant to deal with & certainly do not understand “mr nice” language and behaviour. Hope this helps some. All the best
We find smart engines in Wolverhampton who quotes £2800 best case and £5000 worst case scenario. Picked up the vehicle on 22-Nov after £1400 deposit payment & work was supposed to take 10 days. Got a revised invoiced a week later for £6,000 for crank shaft, turbo, engine head etc. I paid another £1,000 for the crank, at this point they were demanding an extra £2,000 to get the turbo and engine head. I spoke to my mechanic, he called them asking what the revised invoices were about after we had agreed £5,000 worst case.
We decided not to release any more funds and stood our ground. In the end, I presume they purchased the turbo and rest of material. I got sent a video of the car on a test drive on 20-Dec and they were demanding payment and pickup on the day knowing this was obviously impossible with me based in London, lots of threats to remove the engine again and ship it back to london with the engine in the boot etc. Again we held our ground, I did send a fake screenshot of the balance transferred at least to buy time. Next day I take the first train from Euston to Wolverhampton. The address on the invoice was wrong but I could deduce the area from the test drive. I had been calling on the phone and these guys had been telling me not bother coming, they were closed on Saturday, for Christmas etc.
Anyway I turn up at where I think is the garage and I see a chap in a RR sport holla at me, asking for my name, starts insulting me for not paying etc. He refused to release the car & I booked an Uber to the police station to report the car stolen. He then sends me a video of him & the car, I ignore and continue to the police. He calls my mechanic asking for funds, at this point everyone is frustrated. My mechanic calls me & ask that I go back. I go back to take some photos of the place if required by police and then he shows up again asking if I wanted my car. He asked me to get in the back of the car with his sons which I initially declined but got in just to get it over with. We go back to his garage, they start the car- I ask for a test drive which he refused vehemently. I get on the phone to my mechanic who just asks me to pay if the engine runs. I pay the balance and he hands me the keys and I drive out.
In the meantime, I had marketed the car as I do not trust any reconditioned engine job so I drive the vehicle straight from their garage to a dealer for px. I got £7.8K for it in the end. All in all, not a bitter experience like some of the folks here but these guys are not pleasant to deal with & certainly do not understand “mr nice” language and behaviour. Hope this helps some. All the best
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Wow, what an experience. Very few get vehicles back. Especially running. Please report it to trading standards. Also register what happened with the police.
TD5Tom
Active Member
Someone should set these up arrange for them to pick up a car that isn't even there for repair and intimidate them it's wrong that they can take our pride and Joy's I'm not to far from hopefully they get to take a trip to prison soon I wouldn't want to have a vehicle back from them they may just decide to pop back to your house with a spare key hopefully they get what they deserve.
In my experience none of the agencies want to deal with these types of business, they threaten the staff and ignore all the writs. I had the misfortune to have one set up next to a rental property I own. He was claiming to fit exchange engines in Transits, he wasn't, just slapping paint on the engines. At one point there was an arson attack on his vans which scorched all up the side of my property. What did for him was pouring engine oil down the drain. That enbled the Council to use some serious environmental legislation but even then I had to film him covertly because the Council staff were too scared. They got an ASBO against him and the business, a very unusual step but it worked. But, this is Slough with a big Pakistani population and he's Pakistani, so are half the Council. So guess what, week before the trial at Reading Crown Court the addresses of all the complainants are "accidently" sent to him by Slough Borough Council - a "clerical error", "very sorry" "won't happen again".
