Stufer · May 31, 2013

gold rover said:
Looking at the others who have put up their costs, even although they are P38s, I have 2 thoughts : One I'm definitely being treated well by my L322 and Two I'm glad I'm a weirdo not a nerd, I couldn't be arsed having to put in mpg/ cost pg into an app

No, I couldn't be arsed to do that either, buying a V8 then keeping track of mpg would be mental really, I just use the app to keep track of total spent on fuel over the years, by assuming an average mpg and plugging in mileage since purchase.

gold rover · May 31, 2013

Stufer said:
No, I couldn't be arsed to do that either, buying a V8 then keeping track of mpg would be mental really, I just use the app to keep track of total spent on fuel over the years, by assuming an average mpg and plugging in mileage since purchase.

Even that is more than I could be bothered doing. As I said earlier, the moment I decided to buy a 4x4, of any type, was the moment I knew that mpg and cost per gallon were not going to part of the equation. It costs what it costs. I know some people are geeks about this type of thing but on a personal note, if or when I have to calculate/keep track of fuel costs, I will look at buying something else.

Saint.V8 · May 31, 2013

I'm a total geek...I love spreadsheets, graphs, stats, information, data etc...

At times I wonder why my girlfriend puts up with me!!

Datatek · May 31, 2013

I log all fuel and mileage, it's hangover from the requirements of the Inland Revenue, it's also a handy guide to things starting to go wrong.

odysseus · May 31, 2013

Tracking mpg on a V8 Range Rover is no more ridiculous than tracking mpg on a Nissan Micra. Identifying trends and changes over time can be a useful way to give an early warning to a service required, or could give an indication that something needs attention. If taking steps to ensure proactive maintenance is "nerdy" or "weird", then so be it.

I guess some people are more comfortable with technology than others.

Stufer · May 31, 2013

All true, but having had 3 v8's over 30 years I've kinda given up on tracking mpg, I know it going to be eye watering

gold rover · May 31, 2013

odysseus said:
Tracking mpg on a V8 Range Rover is no more ridiculous than tracking mpg on a Nissan Micra. Identifying trends and changes over time can be a useful way to give an early warning to a service required, or could give an indication that something needs attention. If taking steps to ensure proactive maintenance is "nerdy" or "weird", then so be it.

I guess some people are more comfortable with technology than others.

:lol: It's nothing to do with comfortable with technology, apps are simple little tools with no real need for technological knowledge. It's geekdom pure and simple :lol:

I have apps for many things on my phone but to know how much fuel I'm using isn't one of them. If I really need a guesstimate, more accurate than me working it out in my head, there is a little gadget in the veh that does it. However, I can tell if I'm suddenly using more fuel without putting it into an app but each to their own. As for service, why would you need a fuel app to warn you that it is required? I'm sure we all managed to know when a service was required before apps and should all manage to know now if there still wasn't one. Same as we should all be aware of the nuances of our vehs without an app.Just admit you're a nerd and wear your anorak with pride :lol:
And as someone above said , I think Ant started this thread to show the running costs of the L322 over the year, not as a willy waving contest about who can use apps. So I will bow out of the I can use an app discussion at this point

Stufer said:
All true, but having had 3 v8's over 30 years I've kinda given up on tracking mpg, I know it going to be eye watering

I think I would have been the same, had I ever worried about mpg :lol:

Saint.V8 said:
I'm a total geek...I love spreadsheets, graphs, stats, information, data etc...

At times I wonder why my girlfriend puts up with me!!

I bet she wonders that too :hysterically_laughi

Pete The Biker · May 31, 2013

Saint.V8 said:
I'm a total geek...I love spreadsheets, graphs, stats, information, data etc...

At times I wonder why my girlfriend puts up with me!!

I am the same - I have logged every tank of fuel into a spreadsheet since 1988. My wife thinks I'm mad but I have had the spreadsheet a lot longer than I have had her!!

Pete

gold rover · May 31, 2013

Pete The Biker said:
I am the same - I have logged every tank of fuel into a spreadsheet since 1988. My wife thinks I'm mad but I have had the spreadsheet a lot longer than I have had her!!

Pete

When my Dad died , we discovered hand written* log books not only for his car but also the trucks he'd driven. They went back to the first day he started driving HGV in the 70s. He not only had fuel but also had each pick up and drop off location and what it was he was carrying. Which all seemed a bit odd, considering all that was already logged in the business accounts!
No accounting for folks :lol:

Mum must've been every bit as bad , as the handwriting was hers

Datatek · May 31, 2013

gold rover said:
:lol: It's nothing to do with comfortable with technology, apps are simple little tools with no real need for technological knowledge. It's geekdom pure and simple :lol:

I have apps for many things on my phone but to know how much fuel I'm using isn't one of them. If I really need a guesstimate, more accurate than me working it out in my head, there is a little gadget in the veh that does it. However, I can tell if I'm suddenly using more fuel without putting it into an app but each to their own. As for service, why would you need a fuel app to warn you that it is required? I'm sure we all managed to know when a service was required before apps and should all manage to know now if there still wasn't one. Same as we should all be aware of the nuances of our vehs without an app.Just admit you're a nerd and wear your anorak with pride :lol:
And as someone above said , I think Ant started this thread to show the running costs of the L322 over the year, not as a willy waving contest about who can use apps. So I will bow out of the I can use an app discussion at this point

I think I would have been the same, had I ever worried about mpg :lol:

I bet she wonders that too :hysterically_laughi

Who needs an expensive phone and apps? I use a pen and note book

Rob4x40 · May 31, 2013

Stufer said:
All true, but having had 3 v8's over 30 years I've kinda given up on tracking mpg, I know it going to be eye watering

+1

Rover SD1 3.5V8, RR Classic 3.5V8, RR Classic 3.9V8, Disco1 3.9V8 (LPG) & RR P38 4.6V8 (LPG) - plus a V12 Jag somewhere in there... Some of us never learn do we?

Oh, and I'm slowly rebuilding a 1980's speedboat with, yes you've guessed it - a 5.0L V8! On the plus side, the P38 cost per mile will be positively cheap in comparison.

gold rover · May 31, 2013

Datatek said:
Who needs an expensive phone and apps? I use a pen and note book

Ah but do you have the wife as well trained as my Dad had his? Getting her to write it all for him must've been an interesting discussion :lol:

Datatek · May 31, 2013

gold rover said:
Ah but do you have the wife as well trained as my Dad had his? Getting her to write it all for him must've been an interesting discussion :lol:

I never rely on anyone else

gold rover · May 31, 2013

Datatek said:
I never rely on anyone else

That must be interesting. If I didn't rely on others (also known as delegation) there would be a lot of unhappiness in many areas around me.

rangie1998 · May 31, 2013

£2,000 in repairs/maintenance over 15,000 miles. If that was any other car no one would put up with it but because it's a range rover it some how seems acceptable. I have a Volvo S60 D5 as my everyday car which I do about 35-40k miles a year. If it cost anywhere near £2,000 over 15,000 miles it would be long gone! My Range Rover Classic Tdi is quite cheap to run and very easy to fix.

My Dad has a '98 P38 4.0, he's had it for 9 years and touch wood its been reliable and not too expensive to run. Only does 2500 miles a year so fuel isn't a problem. Don't think I or my Dad will be buying an L322 anytime soon!!

gold rover · May 31, 2013

rangie1998 said:
£2,000 in repairs/maintenance over 15,000 miles. If that was any other car no one would put up with it but because it's a range rover it some how seems acceptable. I have a Volvo S60 D5 as my everyday car which I do about 35-40k miles a year. If it cost anywhere near £2,000 over 15,000 miles it would be long gone! My Range Rover Classic Tdi is quite cheap to run and very easy to fix.

My Dad has a '98 P38 4.0, he's had it for 9 years and touch wood its been reliable and not too expensive to run. Only does 2500 miles a year so fuel isn't a problem. Don't think I or my Dad will be buying an L322 anytime soon!!

I think my costs, taken as a comparison of like for like (rather than comparing P38 to L322 , which just can't be done) show that one can own an L322 without it costing as much as Ant's has. I think as with all vehs some are Friday afternoon cars and some are not. I haven't scrimped or ignored any issue that has come up. My car is well maintained and always will be but my costs are to date, as far I'm concerned, more than reasonable.

Stufer · Jun 1, 2013

gold rover said:
I think my costs, taken as a comparison of like for like (rather than comparing P38 to L322 , which just can't be done) show that one can own an L322 without it costing as much as Ant's has. I think as with all vehs some are Friday afternoon cars and some are not. I haven't scrimped or ignored any issue that has come up. My car is well maintained and always will be but my costs are to date, as far I'm concerned, more than reasonable.

Surely the comparison is useful for those contemplating moving on from P38 to L322? But then again, I think I'd probably do what Ant did, see it, fall for it, grovel to her indoors, then go buy it, forgetting about the costs on the day!

Datatek · Jun 1, 2013

gold rover said:
That must be interesting. If I didn't rely on others (also known as delegation) there would be a lot of unhappiness in many areas around me.

If you never rely on anyone else, you are never disappointed

Different when I had my business, plenty of delegation, plenty of disappointment

gold rover · Jun 1, 2013

Datatek said:
If you never rely on anyone else, you are never disappointed
Different when I had my business, plenty of delegation, plenty of disappointment

Disappointment is the bedmate of delegation. Sadly there is a lot of both in my job

kaymarrr · Jun 11, 2013

Just joined the forum and must say brilliant thread, but despite the warnings have just acquired L322 with gas myself replacing Mercedes ML. Considered the annual cost but then figured my mate has just been offered £17K for his year old £29K poxy 3 series against new 5 series so figured I can run the RR for a year then throw it away and it will still have cost me less than his annual depreciation bill. Well that's how I justified to myself anyway.
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