Yes, GPs were incentivised to prescribe statins here in the UK from about 2015.
Despite their popularity and their now being associated with a multi-billion dollar a year industry, the relative risk reduction from taking statins is modest. For example this review of 21 other studies says as much: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2790055
Despite their popularity and their now being associated with a multi-billion dollar a year industry, the relative risk reduction from taking statins is modest. For example this review of 21 other studies says as much: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2790055
Yes, there is a "bounty" paid for statin-ising each person, also one for flu-shots and Covid jabs.
Bizarrely our ex s-i-l came over day before yessdi and he was talking about a customer who asked him to come over as he has a heat pump and it couldn't handle heating the water and the house. If it did heat the house, it could only manage the ground floor. He was saying , as many do, that ground source works better, (he himself built a house for his family with this in which had to go when he got divorced) but that airsourced heat pumps are no flipping good in this country.
As I think many of you know, we have electric underfloor heating in Frogland. It is good but not cheap to run. We put it on as little as possible. Which fortunately is rarely. But the only sensible solution for people like us who only live there 6 months a year.
It'll be interesting to see how it settles down.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25672965/ Yes, and this is also less than positive.
Thanks all for these links etc.
Hippo
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Have we had any gp doctors come oot and confirm they is given cash or other incentives to prescribe certain drugs? How would they know they have done so? They would need access to the prescription service to know. Unless they see a large user like a hospital and give oot holiday vouchers or other, as medial staff leave the building, because that building has taken delivery of said drugs.
Found this, which is at least interesting. Also re other drugs etc such as the "problems" older people have with higher blood pressure. Which W is also having to deal with from her new GP.
How GPs are Paid to Prescribe Ineffective Drugs - Patrick Holford
GPs are prescribing far too many pills. Most people know that and Dr James LeFanu, Telegraph columnist, makes this clear in his just published book ‘Too Many Pills’. ";s:13:"summary_title";s:0:"";s:11:"summary_lft";s:0:"
www.patrickholford.com
Stone56
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The off-roader has similar lines to the 101
Stone56
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The Sun came out and melted it
In the UK there was a policy called the Quality and Outcomes Framework which incentivised doctors for screening and treating a variety of conditions, not just statins, but these got included in the later years of the project. An evaluation of the project in the Lancet in 2016 concluded that there was little effect https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(16)00276-2/fulltext Of course, that's nearly 8 years old now, but I don't think the situation has got any better.
Stone56
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Salt of the earth nowt the matter with that could do with some in the government
The question I ask myself in relation to any possible treatment is 'am I going to do better than the placebo group?'. Once you look at evaluations of the outcomes and possible associated side effects, there's not a whole lot of medical activity that looks terribly attractive.
Stone56
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Can you still get duffel coats in the UK ??
Doubt it - not 'cool' now.
Stone56
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Looks nice more on the way what's the Temperature like fires are like aquariums can't take you eyes off themMorning folks
well as expected
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Think we will sit inside and be mesmerised by the flames in the fire
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Stone56
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Tis going to come nothing I can do about itELECTRIC!!!????
You could have warned us!!!
just move with the times even though I am an old fart
Stone56
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aspirin didn't give me tinnitus I had it years before I started taking them to Mutch shooting and kangosStatins are )IMHO) a big pharma driven con. Do some research on PubMed. Look up Number Needed to Harm.
Overall one important study found that 10 years on statins (with all the attendant side-effect risks) extended the patients lifespan by on average 2 weeks. Worth it? I don't think so. But that's just me.
75mcg daily aspirin: Makes the blood less sticky. Hmmmm..... Common side effect is tinnitius.
I got Tinnitus in the 1st year of Aspirin. Went to Drs. "Ahhh yes that's the aspirin". If I stop will it go away?
"No, we don't know why but it triggers Tinnitus and you are stuck with it, but on balance better to have non-sticky blood and ringing ears to keep you awake at night". Really? YMMV of course, but I wish I had told them to shove their "medicines protocol" where the Sun doesn't shine.
If medicines do you good, then taking more must be good for you, surely? Er, no.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33144598/ "polypharmacy was associated with a higher risk of hospitalization and all-cause death among elderly individuals" It's not entirely because sicker people take more medication either. They say they controlled for co-morbidities.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33144598/ "polypharmacy was associated with a higher risk of hospitalization and all-cause death among elderly individuals" It's not entirely because sicker people take more medication either. They say they controlled for co-morbidities.
