nose weight is related to the vehicle towing.

Yes, I know - thats why I said that US version of EU cars are likely to have lower overall ratings to prevent them towing larger trailers that might have too high a nose weight.
Freelander can only take 75kgs (I think its 75?) vertically on the hitch, I would guess a trailer like that has over 75kgs on the nose unladen, never mind with a car on it.
 
So why not have it better balanced with the wheels a bit further forward? Less load on the coupling, and on the suspension and tyres.

Towed plenty of hay on me ifor!

If the towcar can take the noseweight as US pickups etc easily can, its actually very stable at speed. The short rear overhang of the trailer greatly reduces the pendulum effect of sideways forces so much less snaking.
EU style trailers with the wheels in the middle are inherently less stable at speed, but lighter on our smaller towcars.
 
If the towcar can take the noseweight as US pickups etc easily can, its actually very stable at speed. The short rear overhang of the trailer greatly reduces the pendulum effect of sideways forces so much less snaking.
EU style trailers with the wheels in the middle are inherently less stable at speed, but lighter on our smaller towcars.
Bit more engineering finesse to the British way, old boy! Never humour the colonials too much!
Well set up Ifor works well for me, and has done for over thirty years. Not the same trailer!
 
Absolutely - The Americans think why do it neatly when you can just have a bigger towcar - Most US pickups literally wouldnt fit in a British city street.
 
Bit more engineering finesse to the British way, old boy! Never humour the colonials too much!
Well set up Ifor works well for me, and has done for over thirty years. Not the same trailer!
Been towing Ifor Williams horse boxes for years and they are brilliant.
 
Absolutely - The Americans think why do it neatly when you can just have a bigger towcar - Most US pickups literally wouldnt fit in a British city street.
The phrase sledgehammer to smash a nut springs to mind when I look at a lot of American motors. The one thing I do like is the idea of a large low tuned and stressed engine, instead of our smaller, higher revving ones. Concept kind of crosses over into the v8 Disco, excellent for towing.

Been towing Ifor Williams horse boxes for years and they are brilliant.

Love my Ifors, 2 at the moment, cattle box and flatbed. had quite a few others. Have you posted yours in the trailer fred?
 
lbs? its not 1974 any more grandad.

Anyway, he ACTUALLY said the trailer and two horses weigh around two tons.

Quote - probably around two ton altogether.

so - we can sit here pulling numbers out of our arses and tut tut the guy, or we can wait and see what he says regarding the actual weight.
We are still in England and I for one are glad that people use Lbs. and ounces if get to me when people on the tv say Km and we drive in MPH we were not brought up on the metric and being as it is a Europe thing I will not use it.and the Freelander was and still is made in England
 
Time for your medication, gramps.

Britain has been metric for a very long time - Im 37 and was never taught imperial measurement at any point.
 
Time for your medication, gramps.

Britain has been metric for a very long time - Im 37 and was never taught imperial measurement at any point.
ok child;) There was nothing wrong with imperial measurement, it has served well for centuries :)
 
ok pops.
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LOL what have I started.
Thanks for the replies guys, I've been afk far a couple of days. We currently have a small old lorry but I would like to get rid before it dies
Just to confirm, An Ivor Williams 510 horse box is 1000kg unladen.
The horses are both over 17 hands so guessing around 500kg each therefore total weight around 2000kg or 2 metric tons.
For the most part journeys would be under 20 miles but sometimes a lot further.
Interesting to hear the TD4 would struggle with so much weight, I wouldn't worry if it were only occasional use but towing that much weight every week would probably kill it.
I guess I will need to think again



BTW, afk = away from keyboard. :)

Just get a Toyota to tow with and a TD4 for playdays ...
 
Time for your medication, gramps.

Britain has been metric for a very long time - Im 37 and was never taught imperial measurement at any point.
LOL, I'm 50 and was never taught imperial units accept they used to exist in the dark ages.
 
ok child;) There was nothing wrong with imperial measurement, it has served well for centuries :)
perhaps because it is human scale based ,an inch is the width of a thumb a foot a foot, a yard your nose to out stretched hand or a mans stride,
 
Just get a Toyota to tow with and a TD4 for playdays ...
No chance! The whole idea is to reduce the number of cars in the house.
Son has two Subaru Imprezza's, a ST and a 1500
Daughter has a Fiesta
Wife has a Freelander K series and a Lorry
I have a Skoda Octavia company car and a MGF to play with.

6 vehicles with one a 6 ton lorry is way to many.
 
Time for your medication, gramps.

Britain has been metric for a very long time - Im 37 and was never taught imperial measurement at any point.

I was taught in both and still think in both depending on what's being measured and the scale.....




It gives me far more opportunity to be wrong :)
 

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