Gary ST165
New Member
Greetings to the community at Landyzone. 
My name is Gary, and i am long term Toyota Celica GT-Four enthusiast.
I have recently had the pleasure of borrowing a friends TD4 for a weekend and really liked it.. So i am now on the lookout for my own family car.
However, i now find my self looking for some advice regarding a '04 facelift Freelander TD4 station wagon i test drove yesterday.
The car has covered approx 110,000 miles with full main dealer service history. However i have some concerns, so thought best to ask the community for help and assistance.
I noted the car was difficult to start from cold. It did not turn on first start of the key. It did start on the 2nd turn, but wouldn't idle correctly. It was most definitely missing and and very lumpy! The engine sounded like it was on 3 cylinders, and knocking quite loudly. I opened the bonnet and the engine was rocking back and forth in the engine bay.
I gently increased the revs from 800 rpm to 1500 rpm and after 20 - 30 seconds it seemed to clear itself, and would idle correctly, no more knocking.
On the test drive i experienced a similar misfire always around 1200 rpm while trying to engage 1st gear and pull away. Or if i just reved the car in neutral, i could feel it being lumpy @ 1200rpm.
The remainder of the test drive was fault free and the car pull well in all gears. No smoke or turbo problems from what i could ascertain
I return back to the dealer, turned off the car, and then tried to restart it. It displayed the same initial poor idle, missing badly / lumpy for a few seconds, until i increased the revs to 1500 rpm and it would clear itself.
I told the dealer that the car had faults, and walked away.
Today i received a phone call from the dealer saying, that the car had been taken to a specialist for diagnosis and "fixed"
I was informed that the car had displayed 2 previously stored ECU error codes:
# Camshaft sensor
# Air Flow Meter
The technician, reset and cleared the stored ecu error codes.... and i have been invited back for a 2nd test drive.
Having little understanding of the on Landrover on board diagnostics, i was surprised NOT to see an engine management light illuminated on the dash... ???
Is there anyway to read the ecu fault codes, without taking it to a main dealer? ( On toyota we simply ground to earth one of the terminals in the diagnostic box using a paper clip, and read off the flashing fault codes of the iliminated engine management light)
Should i ask the dealer to replace the Camshaft sensor and AFM. are these common faults on the TD4.
Thanking you all in advance for your advice.
regards,
Gary ST165
My name is Gary, and i am long term Toyota Celica GT-Four enthusiast.
I have recently had the pleasure of borrowing a friends TD4 for a weekend and really liked it.. So i am now on the lookout for my own family car.
However, i now find my self looking for some advice regarding a '04 facelift Freelander TD4 station wagon i test drove yesterday.
The car has covered approx 110,000 miles with full main dealer service history. However i have some concerns, so thought best to ask the community for help and assistance.
I noted the car was difficult to start from cold. It did not turn on first start of the key. It did start on the 2nd turn, but wouldn't idle correctly. It was most definitely missing and and very lumpy! The engine sounded like it was on 3 cylinders, and knocking quite loudly. I opened the bonnet and the engine was rocking back and forth in the engine bay.
I gently increased the revs from 800 rpm to 1500 rpm and after 20 - 30 seconds it seemed to clear itself, and would idle correctly, no more knocking.
On the test drive i experienced a similar misfire always around 1200 rpm while trying to engage 1st gear and pull away. Or if i just reved the car in neutral, i could feel it being lumpy @ 1200rpm.
The remainder of the test drive was fault free and the car pull well in all gears. No smoke or turbo problems from what i could ascertain
I return back to the dealer, turned off the car, and then tried to restart it. It displayed the same initial poor idle, missing badly / lumpy for a few seconds, until i increased the revs to 1500 rpm and it would clear itself.
I told the dealer that the car had faults, and walked away.
Today i received a phone call from the dealer saying, that the car had been taken to a specialist for diagnosis and "fixed"
I was informed that the car had displayed 2 previously stored ECU error codes:
# Camshaft sensor
# Air Flow Meter
The technician, reset and cleared the stored ecu error codes.... and i have been invited back for a 2nd test drive.
Having little understanding of the on Landrover on board diagnostics,
i was surprised NOT to see an engine management light illuminated on the dash... ???Is there anyway to read the ecu fault codes, without taking it to a main dealer? ( On toyota we simply ground to earth one of the terminals in the diagnostic box using a paper clip, and read off the flashing fault codes of the iliminated engine management light)
Should i ask the dealer to replace the Camshaft sensor and AFM. are these common faults on the TD4.
Thanking you all in advance for your advice.
regards,
Gary ST165
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