In the corner OF the Evoque, my fiancé has one, and I’ll be honest I’m very impressed with it. It’s very comfy, quiet and very nice to drive. Boot was big enough for us to get 2 medium sized hold luggage suitcases in the boot when we went abroad earlier this month.

It’s also surprisingly capable off road, it doesn’t have the approach and departure angles of other LR products, but it won’t leave you stuck down a rutted track.
 
And if all else fails
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My neighbour bought a new one last year, does look very smart, or it would if he washed it!
Brother in law bought a two door one new, few years back now, still has it so can't be so bad. Mind you it's had the rear diff changed atleast once.
 
In the corner OF the Evoque, my fiancé has one, and I’ll be honest I’m very impressed with it. It’s very comfy, quiet and very nice to drive. Boot was big enough for us to get 2 medium sized hold luggage suitcases in the boot when we went abroad earlier this month.

It’s also surprisingly capable off road, it doesn’t have the approach and departure angles of other LR products, but it won’t leave you stuck down a rutted track.

One of my cousins has had one for years. I think she might lease it. She seems very happy with it and it has been reliable but then, it is new. What a second hand one with a few miles on the clock would be like, I don't know. I fear all new cars as being over-complicated and costing a fortune to fix.
 
One of my cousins has had one for years. I think she might lease it. She seems very happy with it and it has been reliable but then, it is new. What a second hand one with a few miles on the clock would be like, I don't know. I fear all new cars as being over-complicated and costing a fortune to fix.
My partners was bought second hand off of a JLR stealer. She had one issue with the NS rear light not working but they fixed that under warranty. Car has just ticked over 28k miles. I’d be fairly confident in it lasting the remaining 3 years of the PCP (or until she trades it in for whatever next).
 
My last neighbours grand daughter had one. Loved it for 6 mnths then it got stolen. Same happened to a mates daughter aswell. Just something to be aware of as in certain areas they vanish in the night

My mate's £30k bimmer was stolen off his drive last week. Bloke in a backpack with an aerial sticking out the top walked past his drive at 1 am. The car lights flashed, the bloke looked around and then just climbed in and drove off. Whoever came up with that keyless crap is a dunderhead.

If you have keyless, keep the key in a Faraday cage of some sort, like a metal cash-box or safe.

No wonder everyone's insurance premiums are going through the roof.
 
youtube's Lockpicking Lawyer proves that an expert can undo any doorlock or padlock within a minute or so with no damage.

Keyless car locks clearly can be opened in seconds, with no expertise, other than a thief wielding dodgy tools.

Biometrics / face-recognition / fingerprint / keypad codes seem a bit unreliable, if my £600 phone is anything to go by.

So does someone on here have a solution? (I would prefer keys to electrics/keyless, but am a bit of a luddite).

Needs to be easy to get into for the owner, hard for anyone else....
 
Maybe it would be good to have that new AI system take charge of car security, all linked by the internet - with countermeasures available for defense purposes... could call it - CarNet... ???
 
youtube's Lockpicking Lawyer proves that an expert can undo any doorlock or padlock within a minute or so with no damage.

Keyless car locks clearly can be opened in seconds, with no expertise, other than a thief wielding dodgy tools.

Biometrics / face-recognition / fingerprint / keypad codes seem a bit unreliable, if my £600 phone is anything to go by.

So does someone on here have a solution? (I would prefer keys to electrics/keyless, but am a bit of a luddite).

Needs to be easy to get into for the owner, hard for anyone else....
Keys and an immobiliser are pretty secure. Using RF for remote unlocking was never a good idea IMO, it suffers all sorts of problems and keyless entry using RF is plain stupid. Using infra red as used in a TV remote control was a much better idea, much harder to intercept but not adaptable to keyless.
 
Maybe it would be good to have that new AI system take charge of car security, all linked by the internet - with countermeasures available for defense purposes... could call it - CarNet... ???
:( with all the flaws and software bugs that come with AI? No access to the car when the internet goes down??
 
:( with all the flaws and software bugs that come with AI? No access to the car when the internet goes down??
Best to use the satellite internet system
Lets call that.... SkyNet ...
That will rarely go down and if it does, it will be self-repairing, so AI will be back :cool:
 

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