StuckAgainSteve
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1995 to 2006ish Mercs are awful - apparently they turned a corner 2008ish onwards.
1995 to 2006ish Mercs are awful - apparently they turned a corner 2008ish onwards.
blackstrat
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That's when they sorted the steering
rangelander
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I've had a string of Landrovers and also a number of so called reliable cars from manufacturers that can't be mentioned here. I've used them all for daily driving about 12k miles per year..and boat towing and launching off slipways, beaches, mud etc. Given the ease of working on them, cost of running, comfort, performance etc etc, I'd say that my L322 TD6 (2003) has been and is still the best 4x4 I've ever had. Its had new sus bags and turbo (just before i bought it) and gearbox etc...but in truth the big Toymotas i've had were no more reliable - but a lot more expensive to fix! .... Well...ok...toymota gearboxes don't seem to "wear out" but heads, big ends, suspension, electrics, corrosion etc...all expensive issues...
A well looked after and regulary used L322 was the route i took and I'm glad i made the choice. I was tempted with a low mile'er but went instead for full history and plenty of miles - i.e its been used and early generation parts have failed and been replaced. Had it for over 3 years and very happy...just had to put a new gbox in...seems ok £1400 later..... £300 less than a head for a toymota v8....and I had to replace two heads....yikes!!
(As I write this..I suspect and RR has fallen apart on the driveway..hehe...) but seriously...the RR was a carefully considered choice following lots of prior 4x4 ownership woes..and yes...happy!!
A well looked after and regulary used L322 was the route i took and I'm glad i made the choice. I was tempted with a low mile'er but went instead for full history and plenty of miles - i.e its been used and early generation parts have failed and been replaced. Had it for over 3 years and very happy...just had to put a new gbox in...seems ok £1400 later..... £300 less than a head for a toymota v8....and I had to replace two heads....yikes!!
(As I write this..I suspect and RR has fallen apart on the driveway..hehe...) but seriously...the RR was a carefully considered choice following lots of prior 4x4 ownership woes..and yes...happy!!
Datatek
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Totally objective, I find them uncomfortable, over complicated und full of suspension and electronic problems, not to mention water leaks.Always nice to have an objective and informative view.....
Had my 04 diesel for 6 months ish and love it, we fight for the keys in the morning, some silly niggly fault so price in a diagnostic kit ive had P38s and the L322 is definitly more bang for bucks
StuckAgainSteve
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I know what you mean about reputations, my Pal is on his 2nd or 3rd (lost count now) head on his FSH owned from new Landcruiser. My "unreliable" Jags were practically faultless over combined hundreds of thousands of miles. And my current P38 has been very reliable.
rangelander
New Member
Yup - so so true!! The one big final killer reason I went back to Landy was simply because the knowledge about them - how to fix them etc is so so good. The forums and indys are si used to the motors!!! Now - if a vw Toerag goes wrong (was my alternative to the RR) then even the stealers shyed away when it came to asking about techie issues.....yup - despite obvious faults, its Landy all the way for me!
gazzab79
New Member
dont buy a ML. I do work at a merc dealership and honestly they are just as bad. Suspension probs, waterl leaks, gearbox etc etc
StuckAgainSteve
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Thanks for the info - I wouldn't touch an older ML they're worse than Range Rovers! I thought quality had improved - obviously not!
2.0_hippo
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blackstrat
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What's the price difference between a spot-on sorted late model P38 and an ok L322 then?
2.0_hippo
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I wonder why that is ?
StuckAgainSteve
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I'm surprised they only differ that much - I'd expect an L322 to cost much more.
StuckAgainSteve
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Wil disappeared a bit quick - did somebody call a taxi?
You may be surprised that some people actually like the p38 - it's by far my favourite Range Rover to look at - followed by the three door classic. My brother said exactly the same thing unprompted!
You may be surprised that some people actually like the p38 - it's by far my favourite Range Rover to look at - followed by the three door classic. My brother said exactly the same thing unprompted!
Datatek
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Perhaps the L322 is so cheap as it already has a bad reputation
martynv8
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Absolutely!
I get plenty of interest / comments on mine. Couldn't see that happening in an L322.
wil2813
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:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi nearly choked on my tea again
blackstrat
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Apart from being a well sorted car (2000 on) image-wise the P38 is now old enough to be seen as a deliberate enthusiast buy rather than the L322 which, since the newer models, looks like an out of date posh car.
Anyway must dash............. :behindsofa:
Anyway must dash............. :behindsofa:
