doriz
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Yer silly old man, just stick to taking the pizzDid someone say melons...
v8250
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Hicap phill
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I’m about to share some knowledge
Respect your elders ...,yes they may take the p1ss (&some smell of it)but they are a wealth of information
now... you have the wrong box for that engine.
Yes all bolts should go in without any problems
If you change to that bell housing you input shaft is too short.
if you change to the later box you will need to move the engine,exhaust etc
v8250
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Hicap phill
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Ssshhh I’m not that old compared to you lot....
I do respect my elders mate just wouldn’t mind some actual help instead of a pointless comment typical keyboard warrior.
Thank you for the reply. What would you recommend the best thing to do would be. I’m taking the engine out anyway so I can take it all out and then replace or do what’s needed. What would you say is the best option ?
Hicap phill
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It’s best to change the gear box.
But you may have the wrong adaptor plate bolted to the engine. That’s why they have not put the bolts in.
So price up for new box & ring that bolts on the engine...
(One of the oldies may give you the correct name)
pop round to harfords 4c4 see if they can help with a bit of knowledge
v8250
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@Harry121 , you have a couple of logical options but this depends upon condition of the Land Rover and how much money you'd like to plough in. Logically, the best option would be to base the repairs around the 300tdi engine rather than the LT77 gearbox [and as @Hicap phill confirms, try to fudge it and there's a mass of other associated parts to faff around with]. Therefore, simply change gearboxes from the existing LT77 to a correctly spec'd R380 [bell housing/clutch/gear ratios], job done. The good news is that rebuilt R380's are readily available plus they're tougher units than LT77's. Here's a quick ebay search for you https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...0.l1311&_nkw=land+rover+r380+gearbox&_sacat=0
If your Land Rover is a long term keeper and budget permits it would be worth buying a properly rebuilt warranted unit from a number recognised gearbox specialists; it doesn't have to be Ashcroft Transmissions. Use the LZ search function for good/known transmission houses. And look at giving the transfer box and hand brake a good serving whilst there. Good luck
Yours,
Your favourite keyboard warrior
v8250
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This 55 year young oldie calls "gearbox case..."
https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-rover-defender-gearbox/r380/gearcase_53549
or do you mean the Clutch Housing Assembly
https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-rover-defender-engine/300tdi/flywheel-clutch_53182
Hicap phill
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Thanks.... I am younger than you
(plus my racer runs 300tdi/lt77 in an 88”)
It’s amazing how a Sherpa/ldv van parts bolt to the engine for conversions
(plus my racer runs 300tdi/lt77 in an 88”)
It’s amazing how a Sherpa/ldv van parts bolt to the engine for conversions
@Harry121 , you have a couple of logical options but this depends upon condition of the Land Rover and how much money you'd like to plough in. Logically, the best option would be to base the repairs around the 300tdi engine rather than the LT77 gearbox [and as @Hicap phill confirms, try to fudge it and there's a mass of other associated parts to faff around with]. Therefore, simply change gearboxes from the existing LT77 to a correctly spec'd R380 [bell housing/clutch/gear ratios], job done. The good news is that rebuilt R380's are readily available plus they're tougher units than LT77's. Here's a quick ebay search for you https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...0.l1311&_nkw=land+rover+r380+gearbox&_sacat=0
If your Land Rover is a long term keeper and budget permits it would be worth buying a properly rebuilt warranted unit from a number recognised gearbox specialists; it doesn't have to be Ashcroft Transmissions. Use the LZ search function for good/known transmission houses. And look at giving the transfer box and hand brake a good serving whilst there. Good luck
Yours,
Your favourite keyboard warrior
Yea I’ve baiscally only had it since February and don’t really want to sell it but don’t want to be pumping silly money into it if that sort of makes sense. Obviously it’s a Land Rover they have there problems. Ideally I want to be keeping it. By the sounds of things the best option would be to replace the gearbox with a r380 is that correct ? Then sell my old one to get some cash back. Is it as simple as just sourcing a r380 gearbox and should be good to go. Thank you for the help guys just been panicking a bit trying to figure out the best option
Hicap phill
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Why not just change the engine mounts? For the sake of a few quid this would be easier than the cost of gearboxes & other works.
Hicap phill
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Oh & you don’t have to remove the engine to change these
v8250
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Thanks.... I am younger than you
(plus my racer runs 300tdi/lt77 in an 88”)
It’s amazing how a Sherpa/ldv van parts bolt to the engine for conversions
Ah the joys of Sherpa's & LDV's. I need to see the 300tdi 88"...what other trick bits do you have?
by changing the engine mounts would that line up the bell housing or not ? I’ve got to sort my engine mounts out anyway as they aren’t holding my engine up anymore so if that’s an easier option to fix the bell housing to make it fit etc
Hicap phill
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Charge cooler
Dual calliper on the rear axle
The SIL has it at the moment & moaning you can’t get to things. Did have to explain the door wells are bolted in & the wings are held on with 3 bolts. All jobs can then be down with ease
Hopefully you can see the photo someone sent me this ? Is that what you are on about with the engine mounts
Attachments
Hicap phill
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Take a picture of what you thing is brokem.
The attached is a bracket not a rubber mount which I thought was broken.
the mounts are in the wrong place and baiscally we need to re weld mounts and put new rubbers in but that’s irrelevant really the problem I’m having is the gearbox the bell housing not lining up need to work out what’s best to do probably new gearbox
