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It worries me that I have a non immobilized v8 defender-boxed in at the moment with other vehicles.

I'm considering a pretty sneaky way of electrically immobilizing it with alarm. the question is- is this enough or is a removable steering wheel or mechanical means better.
 
as said if they want it they will do whatever they can , i tried the removing steering wheel on my triumph stag when it was laid up , when the police found it there was a pair of mole grips attached which they had used to steer it when taking it away ......
 
as said if they want it they will do whatever they can , i tried the removing steering wheel on my triumph stag when it was laid up , when the police found it there was a pair of mole grips attached which they had used to steer it when taking it away ......

a went to buy a triumph stag but it was too deer
 
if they want it they'll have it - hiab and a flatbed will get past most defences

Those that have the toys to steal whilly nilly are few and far between.

Away from the big cities you're usually safer from the pro's.

Professional thieves are few in number, but the casual opportunists are legion and it's these who tend to get through the low standard door locks and ignition security.

For me it's a disclok and immob.
 
If they want it they will have it, is it not best to fit a tracker on it? Atleast then you know where it has been taken.
 
oportunists are legion, but there are enough 'pros' about, and a rural area isn't enough to put them off.
Round my old stomping ground Stratford Upon Avon, they relished it; plenty of posh country houses, with plenty of posh cars, well away from any other, down lanes with forty minute response tiomes from the nearest plod, if they even bothered to heed a call out!

And as one pro commented on TV not long back; do a Post office 'blag' and your facing ten years, for what, two three grand?
Take a 40K Rangie of some-ones drive you'll get 10K for it, and risk just six months suspended!

And Landies are a 'Target' vehilcle of both pro's and opportunists; easy to take, and easy to get rid of, either by ringing or breaking.

And a car that might only be worth a couple of grand on the open market, stripped for spares and flogged on e-bay, is often worth two or three times what it would get in auto-Trader with a V5, Tax & Test!

If its got any 'goodies' on it like a winch bumper, fancy wheels, or stuff like that, even more desirable, and even more fencable.

And as said, all it takes is a flat bed and a winch, and unless you have the thing locked in a garage or chained to the floor, and even that's not much of an added ipediment to them, they'll have it away faster tham most of us could with the keys!

Which is thier other means; fishing them through letter-boxes, or pick-pocketing them on your way out of a car-park!

For me; 'Hard' security is always the more re-assuring. I dont like alarms; no-bugger takes any notice of them; and imobilisers just seem to add something else in the wiring to go wrong when you least want it too!

Only 'electric' security I reckon on is the battery isolator, with low amp fuse to keep clock & memory circuits live.

Simple and effective, as long as they dont know it's there, and everything lights up if they get as far as the ignition barel, when it can cause them some hinderence and pottential confusion.

Good steering-wheel lock is a good starting point, beyond that, how much extra is useful, and how much just a pain in the arse, more likely to hinder YOU driving the thing than a pottential toe-rag?

Landy-Locks aren't great, but so what, they dont bother with them anyway, they just 'pop' the locks or smash the window.

Hasps on the door, on a Defender, I guess mean that they cant pop them, and if they smash the window, they still cant open the door, but a pad-lock is fairly easily defeated by a pair of bolt-croppers..... maybe a useful precaution, but a bit of a hinderence to you the usual driver, and really only a deterant to the real opportunists and ameteurs.

Really I dont see much to be gained from going much further; except basic precautions over leaving stuff in the car or on display in it; where you park it, and keeping hold of your keys and such.
 
Extra leverage to force the ignition barel steering lock, so it can be turned with a screwdriver, or the wires on the back got at and bridged.

BUT depends on the steering wheel lock and where / how its fitted, Put the long side through the 'wide' side of the wheel, then the bit they can get a tad extra leverage on has more 'wobble' And if the part pokiking out of the wheel is in an inconvenient spot, they cant get a decent purchase on it, or have room to move it without breaking the windscreen.

And, ultimately, they still have to get the thing off the wheel to be able to steer, either to drive or to winch onto a trailer / flat-bet

IF FITTED approprietly.
 
i fitted an alarm to my LR last year, 2 days after my knackered old metro was broken in to. While i was fixing the metro, they turned up and tried to nick my spares for scrap - told them to **** off.

Fitted the alarm (had it lying around anyway) the next day.

5 days later, one night, the alarm goes off. Didn' notice anything at the time, next morning come to go 2 work and notice the wee window by the rear door was hanging out. The alarm had scared them off, and saved my tools, lots of spares, possibly the car.

Am well glad i got it fitted TBH. Park the car by my room at night, if the alarm goes off ill be paying attention, even if no1 else does.
Thats enough of an alert 4 me.
 
i know a few ways of stoppin or slowin down a cnut thats tryin t nik mi motor,but am not sayin wot thi ar on er cos its not classed as playin by the rules in the eyes of the law?
 
i know a few ways of stoppin or slowin down a cnut thats tryin t nik mi motor,but am not sayin wot thi ar on er cos its not classed as playin by the rules in the eyes of the law?
agreed.

Big problem is nickin landys aint very pc in the eyes of the law either so being 2 wrongs dont make a right would it be an arguable case in court for someone who has their hand cut off by a gin trap?:eek::blabla::D
 
Hidden fuel pump switch is going to hinder them as it will die 100 yds down the road or 20yds with a V8 :D, then they got ta find it, an if ya got more an one they are stuffed.

The more locks and stuff you fit the more damage they are going to do in my opinion, I very often leave it unlocked as there is no stereo or anything to pinch. Like you say, if they want it they will have it.

All you can do is make sure the insurance is good and then at least you will get your money back. Mine has no steering lock so vunerable I spose, I must fit something to immobilise it soon. Trouble is that when I switch to a diesel engine then one short wire from the battery and they are away, I will have to route the fuel pipe via a screw off tap so that it cant be started.
Allways someone after your propperty, cant have anything these days, I cant have a decent car as the yobs walking home drunk at night have keyed every car that I've had.....except the 110, so far that is:rolleyes:
 
agreed.

Big problem is nickin landys aint very pc in the eyes of the law either so being 2 wrongs dont make a right would it be an arguable case in court for someone who has their hand cut off by a gin trap?:eek::blabla::D

I would simply argue in court that someone who had it in for me broke in to my landy, and left a gin trap for me, which the poor thief then sat on.... prove it's not true Mr Plod :D
 
Hows about a notice in the window .

THIS VEHICLE BE BOOBY TRAPPED TO DETER THIEVES

:D:cool:

THIS VEHICLE BOOBY TRAPPED TO DECAPITATE THISVES
 
Why not buy a scrapper, get it running and tart it up, pack it with explosives and a remote detonator and lie in wait for the theiving scum. Let them take it away and then blow them up.:D
 

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