jamesmartin said:

its not a matter of whether you think air or coils have better attributes its just practicality for many

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James hyett said:

I don't think others e

Thanks mate I'll have to get soft were then FFS lol were is the best place to get that mate

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ukadamwest said:

*sigh*

It's nothing to do with what has the better attributes. I'd much rather open the throttle on twisty road in a coil sprung boxster than an air sprung 4x4.

The point which you are choosing not to accept is that the P38 was designed on air. it's handling both on and off road and it's features and functions are based around a self levelling air sprung suspension.

It's not about what is better. Air or coil but around what the P38 was designed as and the losses encountered from conversion.

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ukadamwest said:

*sigh*

It's nothing to do with what has the better attributes. I'd much rather open the throttle on twisty road in a coil sprung boxster than an air sprung 4x4.

The point which you are choosing not to accept is that the P38 was designed on air. it's handling both on and off road and it's features and functions are based around a self levelling air sprung suspension.

It's not about what is better. Air or coil but around what the P38 was designed as and the losses encountered from conversion.

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jamesmartin said:

the p38 is a basic chassis and beam axles its not a special vehicle, apart from ride height the air system is hardly sophisticated,coil kits have helped a good few keep a useful cheap large 4x4 on the road which is generally their 2nd or 3rd car considering even the newest is 14s years old

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winchman said:

I have a coil sprung P38 it was like that when I bought it and for what I paid I feel they are a bargain, as mentioned above.
Many people me included just want it to drive as a second vehicle just been out today in mine and I feel it drives very well from memory better than my 300TDi Disco.
I just couldn't afford a big garage bill and I feel that's why many of them end up on springs

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ukadamwest said:

Then a large 4x4 with air suspension is not the right choice. if someone wants a cheap 4x4 then maybe a Suzuki Vitara would be a better choice.

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Datatek said:

14? I thought the last were made in 2002?

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winchman said:

Having had both they are totally different, the Vitara with basic off road tyres is a very capable off roader as its so compact and light, had mine 5 years and couldnt brake it. The P38 is a totally different vehicle much more refined with the ability to do some off road work and over double the towing capacity.
Problem is the P38 is possibly cheaper than a Vitara?
My Vitara was fun off-roader, road legal that I just used as an emergency car and driving to work in the snow etc.
The P38 is used for best as its so much more refined.

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Datatek said:

I would have liked a Vitara, just too expensive, so ended up with the P38 as a daily driver. It has actually proved to be reasonably reliable and very cheap to fix so I now have 2 of them

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James hyett said:

Hi all were is the cheapest place to bye a
Air To Coil Spring Conversion Kit P38 95-02

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Datatek said:

I can supply the EAS software and cable, it comes with a CD containing my airbag replacement guide and a copy of RAVE the workshop manual. You need a Windows laptop preferably not running Vista and if your laptop does not have a serial port, you will need a USB to serial converter. If you are not familiar with computers, you might struggle.

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James hyett said:

Sorry just seen your message that would be great how much is that
James

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winchman said:

I have a coil sprung P38 it was like that when I bought it and for what I paid I feel they are a bargain, as mentioned above.
Many people me included just want it to drive as a second vehicle just been out today in mine and I feel it drives very well from memory better than my 300TDi Disco.
I just couldn't afford a big garage bill and I feel that's why many of them end up on springs

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winchman said:

I have a coil sprung P38 it was like that when I bought it and for what I paid I feel they are a bargain, as mentioned above.
Many people me included just want it to drive as a second vehicle just been out today in mine and I feel it drives very well from memory better than my 300TDi Disco.
I just couldn't afford a big garage bill and I feel that's why many of them end up on springs

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ukadamwest said:

And that's fine. it's a justifiable explanation.

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winchman said:

I do agree with you in some ways, it was designed to have Air but I doubt it was designed to last 20 odd years, I don't cane mine as its a 4x4 not a sports car

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