springs are now on properly, one was, one wasnt. There must be a knack to reassembling the shoes cos it took me ages and some rude words.
Not convinced the snail cams do much at all, a job for another day, Iive had enough and am not spending easter on it

incase you don't realise how drums work.

when you press the pedal it pushes a specific amount of brake fluid down the brake lines. this pushes the pistons out of the drum cylinders, which inturn evenly pushes the linings out against the inner drum and stops it from turning.

since the fluid is a specific quantity, your linings need to be just shy of touching your inner drums.

if they are not, then the fluid will just be enough to move your linings to your drums surface or to partially push against the drum.

hence you have to double pump to get them to work. once is to bring the linings to the drum, the other pump is to make them push against the drum.

the point of the snail cams is to move the linings out so they are just shy of the drum. then the first push of the pedal pushes hard against the drum.

the fluid will always go to the path of least resistance. so if one lining is not near the surface of the drum on any side, then the whole braking system is compromised as all it will do it push that lining out to meet the drum.

same with pads and discs. if one piston is sticky and not next to the disc, then when you brake it will push the pad out first and not stop the vehicle properly.

(this is ignoring dual circuits for this example)
 
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I'd worked that lot out, but well written, hope its useful to the next person with problems.
Series Landy - problems ?
 
All back together, working, brakes awful, in indy landy 4x4 garage now for mot, and a check over. It wont pass.
 
There is a trick with a pair of mole grips to get the shoes in place.

Difficult to explain but a few pics would make a useful little how to.
 
Increasingly cheesed off, garage brought landy back today, main man still off sick and they cant look at it till next week. Brakes barely work and again its leaking fluid from one of the new pistons. I shall be speaking to a solicitor friend of mine to see what I can get out of the supplier.

DO NOT BUY PAGID BRAKE PARTS FOR LANDROVERS
 
Increasingly cheesed off, garage brought landy back today, main man still off sick and they cant look at it till next week. Brakes barely work and again its leaking fluid from one of the new pistons. I shall be speaking to a solicitor friend of mine to see what I can get out of the supplier.

DO NOT BUY PAGID BRAKE PARTS FOR LANDROVERS

which piston? is it the one with suspect cams?

if you don't fix a broken snail cam and adjust them properly, then the piston can pop out and leak.
 
I've had a week or so off the landy, was getting fed up with it. Now have new shoes and genuine landrover drums on the front, brakes work. Still need bedding in. Aamzes me how little friction material comes on a new shoe, and how close the tolerance for wear between working and not. I suspect this was a far-from-modern design even in the sixties.
Anyway, before I rant,

Rear brakes are locking on ! One side worse than the other of course. I fitted LWB pistons, probably too powerful, suppose I'll have to fit SWB ones. Is there another way ?
A quick, easy and cheap way ?
 

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