Headliner stripped and ready for retrim. Is there an easy way to remove the centre plastic cover without breaking the clips?

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Yes.

Flip it over and you'll actually find that there are 10mm, very shallow nut type things that hold it in place.
They don't look like it but they will unscrew like a normal nut and the plastic trim will then just fall away.

About 15 of them if I remember rightly.
 
Yes.

Flip it over and you'll actually find that there are 10mm, very shallow nut type things that hold it in place.
They don't look like it but they will unscrew like a normal nut and the plastic trim will then just fall away.

About 15 of them if I remember rightly.

Cheers mate - thanks. Saved the brute force technique. Early today I searched for photos of your retrimmed headliner but couldn't fine the right thread, any chance you can post some?

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I took it out and stripped it down as per Rob's pic above mine and then had it re-trimmed in black at a local place.

A bargain at £80, I thought.

Hope you're well anyway, Steve.
I'll get in touch after the trip to Morocco and pop round for a catch up. :)
 
Having had a few issues in this thread http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f8/second-alternator-woes-gwyn-lewis-209344.html that are now thankfully sorted I thought I'd write it up here as if nothing went wrong! ;);)

Second alternator fitted and working without a hitch. :cool:

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Wiring done correctly.

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Extra earth which goes directly to 2nd battery.

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+ve heading around bay to 2nd battery.

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Cables left long at the minute in case I need to re-route them.

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Split charge left in place (minus the supply cable from the 1st battery) so that my Heatshot can be switched on/off.

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Gratuitous porn shots for Mark L. Stainless on green. Black engine bay (not finished yet :eek:) and a neoprene seal between body and wing.

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I'll say it again just for the record in can't believe how clean that body is!

Now I'm gonna read your link and see what the problems were, 2 alternator job is something I'm still not 100% knowledged up on!
 
I'll say it again just for the record in can't believe how clean that body is!

Mine or the girl in my signature?

Now I'm gonna read your link and see what the problems were, 2 alternator job is something I'm still not 100% knowledged up on!

If I was at work and a kid said there was a problem with his/her computer my normal answer would be "the problem is the knob on the mouse"! Most kids pick the mouse up and stare at it, others would give me a stare!

I think the problem with the alternator was the "knob on the mouse" if you know what I mean!!
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Ahhhh, good read :)

Now I understand the exciter wire principle, was scratching my head over marks but couldn't figure it out.

Now I also understand the point of having the systems separate.

The PROBLEM is having two alternators connected to each other.

However, what if you want more amperage on one system?

The way my car is now wired, only the starter and mega squirt system (thus fuel pump, injectors, coil packs, ecu etc) runs off battery 1 and everything else runs off battery 2

I have split charge and 1 alternator.

If I fitted 2 alternators I would still only have the same amperage available (it doesn't use many amps to run the engine tbh) yet I would have half the battery amperage available to sup from as the batteries would then we separate.

As such I'd have one alternator doing 0 running the engine and one working its socks off doing everything else.

The reason I wired the car like this is so that I can use everything all night long at camp but still start the car the next day.

The problem is that the main circuits use so little amps when running it seems daft to put a single alternator on that circuit.

On that basis I think I'd be better keeping split charge and going up to a high output say 200amp alternator single install.

Problems there for me include not having enough friction on a single V belt to drive that many amps, and reliability of 1 alternator vs 2 as a backup.

Good thing is using split charge when winching you are drawing off both batteries which helps keep your voltage up, I can only pull 100amp across my split charge but that would be sufficient.

As it stands I have probably 65 amps of light on the car now and in fairness the alternator can be heard working when I'm burning the full rig and I'm not surprised if it is working close to capacity, adding the heated screen to the draw gave me a slight voltage drop but I was probably pulling 120amps out by that point.

I'm going to see how it goes with the current 70 but I think a single HO would work better for me as adding a second unit won't help me so much I don't think.

Sorry for waffle based hijack!
 
I mean obviously I could add a HO unit for batt 2 and keep the 70 amp unit for batt 1, that could work.
 
It wont be to hard to set up a twin batt, twin alt system.
Could have it so if 1 bat drops below 12v the other alt switches over to help, or the 2 split circuits join.
Then when back up to 12.5v or 13v it goes back to a split system.
 

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