No you didnt have spoken to Mozz. You got rid of keycode lockout not EKA.
tomcat59alan
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Key code lockout will go after leaving the car for about 30minutes, if you then try to enter the eka code and the next two attempts are unsuccessful then open the drivers door and you will not get key code lock out.
Shippers
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Will be interesting to see how this thread progresses when the Nanocom arrives!...
tomcat59alan
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martyuk
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Sorry - just seen I've been tagged in this.
I've just come in from a day of refurbishing door latches, so will attempt to respond more tomorrow.
But in short... KEYCODE LOCKOUT and ENGINE DISABLED are 2 different things. KEYCODE LOCKOUT means the BECM has had too many incorrect attempts at the EKA being put in (Or I've seen it come up when it's locked out and the battery has been reconnected).
You have to wait the 30 min time out for the dash to go dark and show nothing on it before the BECM will even accept and attempt to enter the EKA.
The EKA procedure should give you 1 flash of the indicators for each of the first 4 turns to LOCK to initiate the EKA sequence. After these first 4 turns, the indicators should NOT flash anymore.
When entering the EKA digits, you will get a single flash of the green side-light telltale on the instrument cluster (the side lights will NOT flash externally aswell though) for every turn of the key the BECM has recognised. You can count these to make sure the BECM has recognised all the times you've turned the key.
I would test the microswitches in the latch before attempting the EKA again, just to make sure it's all working as it should be. As per my test sheet already posted - you don't need to take the latch out of the vehicle - it can be unplugged either at the latch or the outstation and the appropriate wires probed.
The EKA will NOT be the same as the radio code, and EKA codes will only between the digits 1 and 6.
If you have a v35 BECM, then you won't be able to enter the EKA with the Nanocom. This only works on V36 and above.
You CAN disable the EKA, passive immobiliser etc with the Nanocom. But this can ONLY be done once the EKA lockout has been cleared. You can go in and change them if it hasn't, hit 'Write Settings', and it will even come back and tell you it's done it... but if you disconnect from the BECM and read it again, they will have reverted back - these security settings can only be written successfully once the BECM is in a disarmed state.
The Nanocom can't extract and EKA code from the BECM unless it has previously been unlocked. It will just show up "----" as a placeholder on the Nanocom. The faultmate kit I have will extract the EKA from the CPU itself - but as mentioned before, it's closer to £1K for the hardware and single licenced module JUST to talk to the BECM CPU - and none of the other P38 systems. The Nanocom will talk to ALL the P38 systems, including the BECM - you just don't get the advanced BECM stuff (which can't be done via the diagnostics port anyway - it has to be done by connecting directly to the CPU chip).
The Nanocom ISN'T VIN Locked - that's the cheaper version of the faultmate - so you will be able to use your Nanocom on your vehicle and any other P38 with the same engine management type, and everything BUT the engine management on other P38 types. You can licence the other engine management types separately.
Fingers crossed you can get the EKA entered and get it started - then you can use the Nanocom to switch off the other settings.
Also, YES, you can test the door latch switches via the Nanocom. In BECM-> INPUTS -> DOORS/LOCKING you can read the states of all the door switches and see them as they change state when you lock/unlock or open/close the door, or turn the key in the lock
Hope this helps.
I've just come in from a day of refurbishing door latches, so will attempt to respond more tomorrow.
But in short... KEYCODE LOCKOUT and ENGINE DISABLED are 2 different things. KEYCODE LOCKOUT means the BECM has had too many incorrect attempts at the EKA being put in (Or I've seen it come up when it's locked out and the battery has been reconnected).
You have to wait the 30 min time out for the dash to go dark and show nothing on it before the BECM will even accept and attempt to enter the EKA.
The EKA procedure should give you 1 flash of the indicators for each of the first 4 turns to LOCK to initiate the EKA sequence. After these first 4 turns, the indicators should NOT flash anymore.
When entering the EKA digits, you will get a single flash of the green side-light telltale on the instrument cluster (the side lights will NOT flash externally aswell though) for every turn of the key the BECM has recognised. You can count these to make sure the BECM has recognised all the times you've turned the key.
I would test the microswitches in the latch before attempting the EKA again, just to make sure it's all working as it should be. As per my test sheet already posted - you don't need to take the latch out of the vehicle - it can be unplugged either at the latch or the outstation and the appropriate wires probed.
The EKA will NOT be the same as the radio code, and EKA codes will only between the digits 1 and 6.
If you have a v35 BECM, then you won't be able to enter the EKA with the Nanocom. This only works on V36 and above.
You CAN disable the EKA, passive immobiliser etc with the Nanocom. But this can ONLY be done once the EKA lockout has been cleared. You can go in and change them if it hasn't, hit 'Write Settings', and it will even come back and tell you it's done it... but if you disconnect from the BECM and read it again, they will have reverted back - these security settings can only be written successfully once the BECM is in a disarmed state.
The Nanocom can't extract and EKA code from the BECM unless it has previously been unlocked. It will just show up "----" as a placeholder on the Nanocom. The faultmate kit I have will extract the EKA from the CPU itself - but as mentioned before, it's closer to £1K for the hardware and single licenced module JUST to talk to the BECM CPU - and none of the other P38 systems. The Nanocom will talk to ALL the P38 systems, including the BECM - you just don't get the advanced BECM stuff (which can't be done via the diagnostics port anyway - it has to be done by connecting directly to the CPU chip).
The Nanocom ISN'T VIN Locked - that's the cheaper version of the faultmate - so you will be able to use your Nanocom on your vehicle and any other P38 with the same engine management type, and everything BUT the engine management on other P38 types. You can licence the other engine management types separately.
Fingers crossed you can get the EKA entered and get it started - then you can use the Nanocom to switch off the other settings.
Also, YES, you can test the door latch switches via the Nanocom. In BECM-> INPUTS -> DOORS/LOCKING you can read the states of all the door switches and see them as they change state when you lock/unlock or open/close the door, or turn the key in the lock
Hope this helps.
Tenebreaux
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Now that's handy to know.
Shippers
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Another brill helpfull post @martyuk...theres still a cold beer waiting for you down here along with a meal...Barry fixed a tailgate on an L322 last week owner charged 400€ by main dealer for diagnosis had it for 4 weeks and said they changed part...no part changed and fault still there...his diagnosis need this part and why did you charge for a part not changed...red faces in parts and service dept and lawyers involved now with the owner...but his tail gate electrics work now...
The EKA and immobiliser can be disabled whilst active in BECM diagnostic mode.
martyuk
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But NOT whilst it's in lockout. I tried it on the bench with 3 different software versions of BECM, and they all reverted to showing the settings as they were before. Think about it... why would they make it if it's locked itself out and needed the EKA in the first place that you could just go in and turn it off?? If you could do that, then you wouldn't have the need for the advanced diagnostics gear to reset lockouts - as you'd simply be able to turn them off via the OBD port like you say.
I'm telling you, it CANNOT BE DONE WHILST THE BECM IS EXPECTING THE EKA CODE.
I'm telling you, it CANNOT BE DONE WHILST THE BECM IS EXPECTING THE EKA CODE.
The EKA code and immobilisation can be disabled in BECM diagnostic mode even if the the engine disabled message is showing. I am telling you it can. Obviously if keycode lockout is showing nothing will work until it goes off, because the system is unreceptive. But in all honesty have never tried that. BECM alarmed state and keycode lockout are not the same thing. BECM alarmed state can sometimes be overcome by entering the EKA code if it is accepted but that can only be done with Nanocom on later versions of BECM.
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You CANNOT sync the fob unless the EKA code has been accepted or is disabled.
Datatek
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He said that the EKA code 1515 was accepted, maybe you missed that
Datatek
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Marty is right on this. You cannot disable EKA while the BECM is calling for EKA to be entered.
Yes you can.
He said that the EKA code 1515 was accepted, maybe you missed that
EKA 1515 is the universal code used on US models. If the dash says engine disabled the EKA code has not been accepted. The keycode lockout has extinguished but that happens automatically after a set time period.
Datatek
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I'd bet you have never tried it.
Have done it often. You can disable EKA and immobilisation with a Nanocom in BECM diagnostic mode when engine immobilised is messaged, which would normally need EKA input to clear.. But seeing as you don't have a Nanocom i don't know how you can comment on what it does or does not do.
