C.J.

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Is there a conversion kit available to turn this poxy system that cannot be used in an emergency into a proper one?
 
There are disc brake conversions.

What do you think is wrong with the standard brake?

CharlesY

Can't be used in an emergency as i said. Well i beleive you can actually....ONCE.;)
At least in a manual you turn the ignition off and leave it in gear to help you slow down, in the auto though, that's as good as putting it into neutral.
 
It's very rare for modern cars to suffer total brake failure.

It would be possible to fit rear calipers from a large Rover or Honda saloon that incorporate a handbrake mechanism but not worth the bother as they tend to seize up/ break as they age. You would have to source handbrake cables of the right length so they could be routed out of the way and still allow for full axle articulation.

The present Land Rover system is simple and reliable. Would combined calipers stand up to the rigours the LR may have to encounter in deep water and or mud?

Use of the handbrake at any other time than stationary is just bad driving/ mechanical abuse.
 
It's very rare for modern cars to suffer total brake failure.

It would be possible to fit rear calipers from a large Rover or Honda saloon that incorporate a handbrake mechanism but not worth the bother as they tend to seize up/ break as they age. You would have to source handbrake cables of the right length so they could be routed out of the way and still allow for full axle articulation.

The present Land Rover system is simple and reliable. Would combined calipers stand up to the rigours the LR may have to encounter in deep water and or mud?

Use of the handbrake at any other time than stationary is just bad driving/ mechanical abuse.


There is actually a very good reason why i ask this question, and it's nowt to do with doing handbrake turns with me neons on in the local B&Q carpark at night time, but unfortunately cannot discuss it in here without actually doing some unavoidable advertising of my business venture.
Suffice to say, i need some sort of secondary braking system.
Anchor out of the window p'raps? :D
 
Is there a conversion kit available to turn this poxy system that cannot be used in an emergency into a proper one?

Do you often use your handbrake for emergency stopping?

If you have total brake failure and you use your handbrake - you’re not going to try driving on any further anyway - so you shouldn't need to use it more than once. It is a parking brake and exactly that: an EMERGENCY brake.

Often equipment used for emergency purposes does get damaged - its like crow bar protection in a power supply - the unit is duffed but hopefully the delicate workings of the electronic device(s) running from it are saved - a PC power supply for example.

However - X-eng High Performance Off-Road Engineering
 
Unless you are VERY careful in your choice of MOT man, your handbrake gets used once a year anyway when he drives out with his little meter and tests your brakes. Hasn't broken my half-shafts yet. Unfortunately you don't get much braking power off it. Had to use mine once on a 200TDi with heavy trailer when the brakes faded on a steep hill. Didn't stop it but I managed to avoid dying. Still worked OK afterwards as well.

As far as I know the half-shaft problem is the reason for not using it. I have heard that the correct test procedure is to use a 45 deg ramp, but I've only ever seen one at a Ministry testing station.
 
Unless you are VERY careful in your choice of MOT man, your handbrake gets used once a year anyway when he drives out with his little meter and tests your brakes. Hasn't broken my half-shafts yet. Unfortunately you don't get much braking power off it. Had to use mine once on a 200TDi with heavy trailer when the brakes faded on a steep hill. Didn't stop it but I managed to avoid dying. Still worked OK afterwards as well.

As far as I know the half-shaft problem is the reason for not using it. I have heard that the correct test procedure is to use a 45 deg ramp, but I've only ever seen one at a Ministry testing station.

Pardon my ignorance, but i've only accidentally used it once whilst coming to a standstill whilst still moving very very slowly.
The banging and crashing that went on was enough for me to NEVER do that again.
Is it actually 'gripping' the half shafts then? :confused:
 
Yes..... No. :confused: Doh, stop bein' pedantic, you know what i mean ffs. :rolleyes:
no i don't know, thats why i asked. yer sed you accidently put yer hand brake on. so i'd like to know how you managed that, as i'm sure others would so that it dint happen to them
 
you shouldn't put yer handbrake on while yer moving, its not good fer the mechanics of the brakes
 
an alternative would still be a hand brake and therefore you shouldn't apply it while moving
 

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