Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Yeah it has to be said if you're starting from scratch on a 5.2!build yu really should be looking very hard at American/jap options instead.
ALTHOUGH that die hard lightweight beauty that is the rover v8 is a hard habit to shift.
Your p76 is something of a wildcard, easily the best all round option but like you have found out is a wallet shagger.
Basically theres no way for good power out of a rover v8 without around 2 grand minimum.
Any less than that and you're not making much power, and more and you could be said to be burning money for the sake of keeping the old rover.
I mean I must admit that I am dead sure for the weight of my vehicle now it simply needs more capacity that 3.5 litre, or at least more compression to make use of that capacity.
Bit of a rock and a hard place deciding what to do if we're honest, which brings is round to your original point of it taking ages to choose what to buy.
For me, despite all that we've said about large bore engines, I think top hat 4.6 is the best bang for buck, enough of them out there for cheap enough parts prices and good power available with decent reliability.
Still can't afford it though
ALTHOUGH that die hard lightweight beauty that is the rover v8 is a hard habit to shift.
Your p76 is something of a wildcard, easily the best all round option but like you have found out is a wallet shagger.
Basically theres no way for good power out of a rover v8 without around 2 grand minimum.
Any less than that and you're not making much power, and more and you could be said to be burning money for the sake of keeping the old rover.
I mean I must admit that I am dead sure for the weight of my vehicle now it simply needs more capacity that 3.5 litre, or at least more compression to make use of that capacity.
Bit of a rock and a hard place deciding what to do if we're honest, which brings is round to your original point of it taking ages to choose what to buy.
For me, despite all that we've said about large bore engines, I think top hat 4.6 is the best bang for buck, enough of them out there for cheap enough parts prices and good power available with decent reliability.
Still can't afford it though
fett
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yeah I was told I could have done mine cheaper using a turners 4.6 top hat motor but tbh with the good cam and vat that engine still comes in at £3500 stripped.
Mine will have the same power and more torque and its going to be £2000 when its done and thats will all the arp bits, the good cam and high vol oil pump etc. The main point was I always wanted to do a scratch re-build on a v8 rather than just fixing whatever was wrong with it and getting it back on the road as quickly as I could which is what always happened in the past.
I think if you go for anything else and you are not lucky enough to have an old over finch conversion kit lying about or something like that its a hell of a lot more work and you will still need 5k for a crate 350 and probably break u/js and diffs all day long lol.
prob best to stick with the rv8 unless you have lots of time and cash and an engineering facility , but lets be honest landys are not a cheap hobby any which way :doh:
Mine will have the same power and more torque and its going to be £2000 when its done and thats will all the arp bits, the good cam and high vol oil pump etc. The main point was I always wanted to do a scratch re-build on a v8 rather than just fixing whatever was wrong with it and getting it back on the road as quickly as I could which is what always happened in the past.
I think if you go for anything else and you are not lucky enough to have an old over finch conversion kit lying about or something like that its a hell of a lot more work and you will still need 5k for a crate 350 and probably break u/js and diffs all day long lol.
prob best to stick with the rv8 unless you have lots of time and cash and an engineering facility , but lets be honest landys are not a cheap hobby any which way :doh:
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Yes indeed, many people hark on about changing to another motor but there is a lot more involved in it than just that.
A small bore 4.4 really is the best of both worlds but that comes at a price, you can have something decent from either world at much less than your happy medium cost.
But it will be the best all rounder and that will make you grin for a long time
All the best pal
A small bore 4.4 really is the best of both worlds but that comes at a price, you can have something decent from either world at much less than your happy medium cost.
But it will be the best all rounder and that will make you grin for a long time
All the best pal
bencorkill
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Waiting for todays engine pics got one of my gearbox bolts out today, only took about 45mins LOL!
got one of my gearbox bolts out today, only took about 45mins LOL!
bencorkill
Well-Known Member
Only one
Yep it got to dark so gave up, will hopefully get them all out and torque convertor ones on tuesday
robbh
Crazier than a box of frogs on acid
Evening everyone.
Finally have an update for this thread.
Although its not a lot in the grand scheme of things but its a start.
On the stand ready to go.
Engine loom removed.
Did take the manifolds off as well but forgot to take pics :doh:
Then got this far and left it for the night as im knackered.
When i get a chance to work on it again i shall continue to remove the 3inch layer of mud over the engine and clean what i can before i take the rest apart.
Hopefully next update the rocker covers will be off at least.
Finally have an update for this thread.
Although its not a lot in the grand scheme of things but its a start.
On the stand ready to go.
Engine loom removed.
Did take the manifolds off as well but forgot to take pics :doh:
Then got this far and left it for the night as im knackered.
When i get a chance to work on it again i shall continue to remove the 3inch layer of mud over the engine and clean what i can before i take the rest apart.
Hopefully next update the rocker covers will be off at least.
Dr_evil
Banned
robbh
Crazier than a box of frogs on acid
Waiting for todays engine pics
Was that one of the top ones by any chance?
They are a right ballache to get out! Took me nearly all day to separate the derv engine from the box!
200tdi ayre
Well-Known Member
I'd love a 4.6 in my challenge truck but there's just too many factors holding it back. I'm not too bothered about fuel cost as it will just be used as a toy, competitions ect so not that important it's the waterproofing issues and how to make the rest of the drivetrain power proof. I can't afford the grand for a mega squirt plus it's not practical in a 90 challenge wise. You either have to replace the lt77 every challenge after you blow it up or move the engine forward and fit an auto or strong r380 don't know if Ashcroft do a strengthened lt77 which would be perfect but that would no doubt be expensive too. Still I can drool every time I drive the rangie and hear her roar
Although all the other designs for trucks I've got designed in my head allow much more free play
Although all the other designs for trucks I've got designed in my head allow much more free play
bencorkill
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Was that one of the top ones by any chance?
They are a right ballache to get out! Took me nearly all day to separate the derv engine from the box!
Yeah was a top one , got my hands through the tunnel, sprayed loads of WD40 up there so should make life easier when trying to get the rest off
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Never had that much trouble with top bolts tbh with the right combination of extensions.
And YES I always replace them!
That Ben corkill was a right dirty bugger btw, wash your engine man!
As for v8 lt77, I don't think you would instantly explode it, but what about LT85 instead?!?!
And YES I always replace them!
That Ben corkill was a right dirty bugger btw, wash your engine man!
As for v8 lt77, I don't think you would instantly explode it, but what about LT85 instead?!?!
Dr_evil
Banned
LT85 bellhousing is pretty large so reckon it'd push it forward (below) so I'd think only way to get it to fit would be to make a stumpy R380 or stumpy LT77 using the Rover saloon bellhousing (bottom)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-V8-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cd0bb827b Would need to mate this to a shorter input shaft too though
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-V8-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cd0bb827b Would need to mate this to a shorter input shaft too though
robbh
Crazier than a box of frogs on acid
And hello again.
Got a bit more done after work this evening.
Intake maifold and rocker covers and valley gasket now removed!
Heres a few pictures of what i can see of the camshaft.
Left it at that this evening as once again dinner was ready only other thing i did do after all that was undo the sump plug to drain the oil.
Oh and took a pic of whats on the table at the end of my bed ready for cleaning.
Got a bit more done after work this evening.
Intake maifold and rocker covers and valley gasket now removed!
Heres a few pictures of what i can see of the camshaft.
Left it at that this evening as once again dinner was ready only other thing i did do after all that was undo the sump plug to drain the oil.
Oh and took a pic of whats on the table at the end of my bed ready for cleaning.
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