What diesels are avail in Sport utes?

I love diesels.

In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004.

All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch
large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired.

Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly!
I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi.

While aren't diesels available more in the US?

I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have
kept it.

> I love diesels.

As the owner of a 2001 Silverado 2500HD with a Duramax I can't argue
with that... =)

> In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004.
>
> All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch
> large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired.
>
> Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly!
> I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi.

That's about it... Unless you got some seriois cash, then check out a
Hummer H1.
There was some talk in the 4x4 trade magizines about Jeep doing a test
market in the US with a 5cyl diesel powered vehicle (Liberty or Grand
Cheroke), but I do not know if it ever happened. They sell a lot of them
overseas and it might be possible to import one.....

> I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have
> kept it.

Ah yes... I had a 84 GMC Jimmy with the 6.2. With a 4" lift, 33" tires
and stock gears I was getting 19MPG around town and 25on the hiway. I
junked it with 200,000 miles when the body dropped off the frame.
If you really like those, check out military surplus. The military ran
them up to the switch to the hummers. IIRC, it was a Blazer with 3/4 ton
running gear.

Mike

fake name wrote:
> I love diesels.
>
> In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004.
>
> All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch
> large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired.
>
> Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly!
> I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi.
>
> While aren't diesels available more in the US?
>
> I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have
> kept it.

One of the problems I am told with selling diesel vehicles in the US is that
US diesel has a very high sulphur content and modern common rail diesel
engines don't like sulphur. I also think the gas stations will need some
work as from my experience they tend to have the diesel pumps separate from
the petrol ones which puts people off.

I have heard that Land Rover are considering offering their new diesel
engine in the US. It is a joint Ford/Peugeot design V6 2.7 litre putting out
200hp and over 300lb-ft of torque but still retaining 30+ mpg potential.

I believe you should be getting the V10 VW Touareg too which has 313hp and
553lb-ft at 2000rpm.

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Roughly 1/10/04 07:19, fake name's monkeys randomly typed:
> I love diesels.

Lotsa lotsa torque, good mileage.
>
> In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004.
>
> All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch
> large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired.

There is a 300 plus HP diesel with over 500 ft-lb of torque
about to be available for the VW SUV. Supposed to be faster
than the 310 hp V8 now available, with bundles more pulling power.
>
> Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly!
> I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi.
>
> While aren't diesels available more in the US?

Crappy high sulfur fuel, the european and modern diesels don't run on
it too good. New diesel fuel standards about to take effect over
next coupla years should allow some very interesting units to be
available.

Plus dealing with the particulate emissions of diesels is about
to be available.
>
> I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have
> kept it.

Some of the new ones in the pipeline are just as powerful with
better mileage. If you aren't in a hurry to buy, check out the
EPA and DOT websites for when the low sulfur diesel fuels are
scheduled to be available.

On road #2 diesel should be low sulfur (<0.05% or 500ppm) now; I believe the
requirement for ultra low sulphur (<0.0015% or 15ppm) road diesel in US is
2007 or 2008. Red dyed off-road/construction/farm diesel & heating oil may
be either regular (0.5% or 5000ppm) or low sulfur, thee latter being perhaps
a couple cents more per gallon.

Check http://www.eia.doe.gov and http://www.epa.gov/ too.


"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
news:umXLb.16078$sv6.43355@attbi_s52...
> Roughly 1/10/04 07:19, fake name's monkeys randomly typed:
> > I love diesels.
>
> Lotsa lotsa torque, good mileage.
> >
> > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004.
> >
> > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch
> > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired.
>
> There is a 300 plus HP diesel with over 500 ft-lb of torque
> about to be available for the VW SUV. Supposed to be faster
> than the 310 hp V8 now available, with bundles more pulling power.
> >
> > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly!
> > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi.
> >
> > While aren't diesels available more in the US?
>
> Crappy high sulfur fuel, the european and modern diesels don't run on
> it too good. New diesel fuel standards about to take effect over
> next coupla years should allow some very interesting units to be
> available.
>
> Plus dealing with the particulate emissions of diesels is about
> to be available.
> >
> > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have
> > kept it.
>
> Some of the new ones in the pipeline are just as powerful with
> better mileage. If you aren't in a hurry to buy, check out the
> EPA and DOT websites for when the low sulfur diesel fuels are
> scheduled to be available.
>
>

There is supposed to be a Jeep Liberty 2.5 or 2.8L diesel coming in 2004. It's
already used in Europe and is reported to get over 25 mpg - pretty good for an
SUV.
Sometime in mid-late 2005 Jeep may also bring in a Grand Cherokee 3.0L that
will be a wonderful vehicle - quiet, efficient, and powerful.

[email protected]

PTashner wrote:
> There is supposed to be a Jeep Liberty 2.5 or 2.8L diesel coming in
> 2004. It's already used in Europe and is reported to get over 25 mpg
> - pretty good for an SUV.
> Sometime in mid-late 2005 Jeep may also bring in a Grand Cherokee
> 3.0L that will be a wonderful vehicle - quiet, efficient, and
> powerful.
>
> [email protected]

For Jeep diesel details have a look at:

http://www.chryslerjeep.co.uk/jeep/r8/welcome/index.asp


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On 10 Jan 2004 07:19:01 -0800, [email protected] (fake name)
wrote:

|I love diesels.
|
|In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004.
|
|All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch
|large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired.
|
|Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly!
| I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi.
|
|While aren't diesels available more in the US?
|
|I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have
|kept it.

Jeep had announced that they were going to introduce the Liberty
with a diesel in Jan '04. This is a vehicle made in Toledo OH
and shipped to Europe. They just did not have enough production
capacity until now.

And Land Rover had announced that the Discovery would be
available with the TD6 in Jan. as well. Have not seen anything
about either so far.

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:45:59 GMT, "Exit" <[email protected]> wrote:

|fake name wrote:
|> I love diesels.
|>
|> In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004.
|>
|> All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch
|> large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired.
|>
|> Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly!
|> I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi.
|>
|> While aren't diesels available more in the US?
|>
|> I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have
|> kept it.
|
|One of the problems I am told with selling diesel vehicles in the US is that
|US diesel has a very high sulphur content and modern common rail diesel
|engines don't like sulphur. I also think the gas stations will need some
|work as from my experience they tend to have the diesel pumps separate from
|the petrol ones which puts people off.
|
|I have heard that Land Rover are considering offering their new diesel
|engine in the US. It is a joint Ford/Peugeot design V6 2.7 litre putting out
|200hp and over 300lb-ft of torque but still retaining 30+ mpg potential.
|
|I believe you should be getting the V10 VW Touareg too which has 313hp and
|553lb-ft at 2000rpm.

I have a Jette diesel and my dealer here in DC told me that we
should be seeing that monster engine with the next few months.