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Steve

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Yeah, OK, The Nissan X-trail that I have at the moment may not be classed as
a proper 4x4 but felt it safer to post in here rather than normal motoring
group so I dont get sent to hell and flamed for owning a fuel guzzling,
pedestrian killer vehicle that never ever gets its feet wet!!

Anyways,

I have the original tyres on it the moment, which are Dunlop Grantrex, on
all 4 rims. The front set are not that far off worn and will need
replacement rather soon. The limited amount I have used the nissan off road
so far (bought the car in december 2nd hand so tyres already worn to about 3
mm ish) it was ok other than in a muddy field that had stubble on it and a
fair old incline on it too, did get through it but wheels were spinning more
than I expected.

Is there a better tyre out there that would suit this vehicle, good for on
road stability and general off road use?

If I was to change to say the Dueller H/T would I need to swap all 4 tyres?
or just 2 for now and put the existing Dunlops on the front so they wear
down and then get a second pair of H/ts at a later date? Are you supposed to
not mix brands between both axels or is it just dont mix brands on the same
axel?

I work for one of the mobile phone networks and so use the car occasionally
for site visits. Sites can be accessed generally through, slightly muddy,
grassy tracks, that can often be quite steep.Some are just steep with loose
gravel rocks on. Live in scotland, so would need to be good in snow too.
And, as the car is 136bhp and I have a heavy right foot, something that wont
make me lose it on a bend.


Any help and recomendations for tyres would be great. I live in UK.

Thanks
Steve



 

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> Is there a better tyre out there that would suit this vehicle, good for on
> road stability and general off road use?
>

Michelin Synchron 4x4. Can't be beaten for your type of work assuming they
make them in the size you need. These tyres are standard fit on BMW some BMW
X5 and Range Rovers in various sizes. Unless the rears are less than two
thirds worn I would change all four. It depends really on how many sets of
tyres you are likely to use on this car and this depends to a large extent
on how many miles you are likely to cover before you sell it.

Huw


 
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:21:12 -0000, "huLLy" <[email protected]> wrote:

>huLLy wrote:
>> Steve wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a better tyre out there that would suit this vehicle, good
>>> for on road stability and general off road use?
>>>
>>
>>
>> BF Goodrich AT's, superb tyre.
>
>Couple of pics here, 1st one was the old cheapo tyre...
>
>http://www.evcs.net/tyres.html


A couple of questions:

What are they like for motorway driving?

What tyres are likely to last longest - is there a make that is harder
wearing than the rest?

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Rooney wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:21:12 -0000, "huLLy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> huLLy wrote:
>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a better tyre out there that would suit this vehicle, good
>>>> for on road stability and general off road use?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BF Goodrich AT's, superb tyre.
>>
>> Couple of pics here, 1st one was the old cheapo tyre...
>>
>> http://www.evcs.net/tyres.html
>
>
> A couple of questions:
>
> What are they like for motorway driving?

Fine, I drive regularly up and down to Scotland. Grip, road noise etc is
good.

>
> What tyres are likely to last longest - is there a make that is harder
> wearing than the rest?

The tread on these is about 12mm deep, it's going to last a long time :)
And you don't want tyres so hard they slide off the road every time you put
your foot down at a corner.. if your truck is rear wheel drive..
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>
> BF Goodrich AT's, superb tyre.
> --
Cant make out what jeep that is in your pics, but looks like one of the
bigger ones that is probably better off road than my x-trail but conversly
not as good on-road. How ill these tytes fair on tarmac wet and dry? Given
that the nissan has 136bhp and will do 115mph easily and takes corners not
so bad I dont want to be sliding all over the place!!

Steve


 
In message <[email protected]>, Rooney
<[email protected]> writes
>On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:21:12 -0000, "huLLy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>huLLy wrote:
>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a better tyre out there that would suit this vehicle, good
>>>> for on road stability and general off road use?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BF Goodrich AT's, superb tyre.
>>
>>Couple of pics here, 1st one was the old cheapo tyre...
>>
>>http://www.evcs.net/tyres.html
>
>
>A couple of questions:
>
>What are they like for motorway driving?
>
>What tyres are likely to last longest - is there a make that is harder
>wearing than the rest?
>
BFGs have a good reputation on that score - my MTs have done 57k and
mostly on road. They are getting down a bit now though and probably
wouldn't be much good off road.

The best compromise tyre used to be the BFG Trac Edge but they dropped
that after being taken over by Michelin who I believe do an equivalent
but I don't know what he type name is.
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hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
In message <[email protected]>, Steve
<[email protected]> writes
>Yeah, OK, The Nissan X-trail that I have at the moment may not be classed as
>a proper 4x4
<Snip>

Are you confusing this group with alt.fan.landrover perhaps?

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hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
> If I was to change to say the Dueller H/T would I need to swap all 4
> tyres? or just 2 for now and put the existing Dunlops on the front so they
> wear down and then get a second pair of H/ts at a later date? Are you
> supposed to

> Any help and recomendations for tyres would be great. I live in UK.
>
> Thanks
> Steve

dont bother with duellers - i have them on rear drive pick up truck (L200)
and they slide a fair bit when cornering. i dont hang about either - my
other drive is an evo 8, go with the BFG all terrains - any 4x4 driver worth
his salt will advise these and they are not too noisy


 
BFGoodrich are the best value over there life span, have had customers get
upto and in excess of 80K out of them.
Andy. www.ajstyres.co.uk
"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah, OK, The Nissan X-trail that I have at the moment may not be classed
as
> a proper 4x4 but felt it safer to post in here rather than normal motoring
> group so I dont get sent to hell and flamed for owning a fuel guzzling,
> pedestrian killer vehicle that never ever gets its feet wet!!
>
> Anyways,
>
> I have the original tyres on it the moment, which are Dunlop Grantrex, on
> all 4 rims. The front set are not that far off worn and will need
> replacement rather soon. The limited amount I have used the nissan off
road
> so far (bought the car in december 2nd hand so tyres already worn to about
3
> mm ish) it was ok other than in a muddy field that had stubble on it and a
> fair old incline on it too, did get through it but wheels were spinning
more
> than I expected.
>
> Is there a better tyre out there that would suit this vehicle, good for on
> road stability and general off road use?
>
> If I was to change to say the Dueller H/T would I need to swap all 4
tyres?
> or just 2 for now and put the existing Dunlops on the front so they wear
> down and then get a second pair of H/ts at a later date? Are you supposed
to
> not mix brands between both axels or is it just dont mix brands on the
same
> axel?
>
> I work for one of the mobile phone networks and so use the car
occasionally
> for site visits. Sites can be accessed generally through, slightly muddy,
> grassy tracks, that can often be quite steep.Some are just steep with
loose
> gravel rocks on. Live in scotland, so would need to be good in snow too.
> And, as the car is 136bhp and I have a heavy right foot, something that
wont
> make me lose it on a bend.
>
>
> Any help and recomendations for tyres would be great. I live in UK.
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
>
>


 
hugh wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, Steve
> <[email protected]> writes
>>Yeah, OK, The Nissan X-trail that I have at the moment may not be classed
>>as a proper 4x4
> <Snip>
>
> Are you confusing this group with alt.fan.landrover perhaps?
>

FWIW i did see an X-Trail being mocked by some SJ410 drivers and the driver
of a Nissan crewcab on an offroad site if that makes it any better :mad:)

P.
 
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:36:46 GMT, "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah, OK, The Nissan X-trail that I have at the moment may not be classed as
>a proper 4x4

It's a highly regarded 4x4, doing extremely well (ie, coming top) in
tests and surveys from the likes of What Car? and Fifth Gear.
It's not a tractor - but it's not meant to be. It's a quality family
car with decent off-road ability.

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Paul S. Brown composed the following;:
> hugh wrote:
>
>> In message <[email protected]>, Steve
>> <[email protected]> writes
>>> Yeah, OK, The Nissan X-trail that I have at the moment may not be
>>> classed as a proper 4x4
>> <Snip>
>>
>> Are you confusing this group with alt.fan.landrover perhaps?
>>
>
> FWIW i did see an X-Trail being mocked by some SJ410 drivers and the
> driver of a Nissan crewcab on an offroad site if that makes it any
> better :mad:)

LOL, if anyone reads afl they'd see that far from mocking other 4x4's,
most Landrover owners actually quite like the differences. Suzukis and
Nissans have been discussed there often, and the Fiat Panda 4x4 is
discussed in glowing terms.

....... and if you _really_ read afl you'd see how many Landrover owners
whine and whinge and discuss their faults, though that's part of the
'Landrover Ownership Deal'. :) There is an absolute wealth of
knowledge on afl and all of it freely given.


--
The Caretaker.
www.4x4prejudice.org
A balanced argument.

 

"Rooney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:36:46 GMT, "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Yeah, OK, The Nissan X-trail that I have at the moment may not be classed
>>as
>>a proper 4x4
>
> It's a highly regarded 4x4, doing extremely well (ie, coming top) in
> tests and surveys from the likes of What Car? and Fifth Gear.
> It's not a tractor - but it's not meant to be. It's a quality family
> car with decent off-road ability.
>
I know, i was just mocking the pillocks that would either say "go and and
get a proper 4x4" (those that think anything less than a defender or shogun
etc) or thise that say "why have a 4x4 and use it on road" brigade. The
later are the ones that are bashing 4x4's at it seems to be trendy to do so
now and they need a bandwaggon to jump on until the next thing comes along
to satisfy there ignorant mind. And no doubt those in that group drive a
mondeo etc that produces more harmfull co2 etc than my x-trail and many
other jeeps produce........ but anyways..........

Looks like it will be BFG's then. Some of you say BFG All Terrain, is that
the name of them or is there a more specific name to them?

Also, only the fron 2 of the existing Dunlops are near replacement, what are
my choices, put the dunlops on the front so they wear quicker and the new
BFG's on the rear replacing the fronts when they have gone.......... or
replace the 4 in one lot? bearing in mind the spare will have to be changed
as well at some time?

Thanks again.

Steve


 
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:34:27 GMT, "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Rooney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:36:46 GMT, "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, OK, The Nissan X-trail that I have at the moment may not be classed
>>>as
>>>a proper 4x4
>>
>> It's a highly regarded 4x4, doing extremely well (ie, coming top) in
>> tests and surveys from the likes of What Car? and Fifth Gear.
>> It's not a tractor - but it's not meant to be. It's a quality family
>> car with decent off-road ability.
>>
>I know, i was just mocking the pillocks that would either say "go and and
>get a proper 4x4" (those that think anything less than a defender or shogun
>etc) or thise that say "why have a 4x4 and use it on road" brigade. The
>later are the ones that are bashing 4x4's at it seems to be trendy to do so
>now and they need a bandwaggon to jump on until the next thing comes along
>to satisfy there ignorant mind. And no doubt those in that group drive a
>mondeo etc that produces more harmfull co2 etc than my x-trail and many
>other jeeps produce........ but anyways..........

All very true.
>
>Looks like it will be BFG's then. Some of you say BFG All Terrain, is that
>the name of them or is there a more specific name to them?

Seems to be a couple.
>
>Also, only the fron 2 of the existing Dunlops are near replacement, what are
>my choices, put the dunlops on the front so they wear quicker and the new
>BFG's on the rear replacing the fronts when they have gone.......... or
>replace the 4 in one lot? bearing in mind the spare will have to be changed
>as well at some time?


I'll leave that to someone who knows!

>Thanks again.
>
>Steve
>

I've just been looking up BFG tyres - is what is being recommended
this:
http://www.bfgoodrichtyres.co.uk/bf...eRubrique=12&codePage=BFG_PAG_DETAIL2&lang=EN
(Long Trail T/A)?

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:45:19 GMT, "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>>>
>>
>> I've just been looking up BFG tyres - is what is being recommended
>> this:
>> http://www.bfgoodrichtyres.co.uk/bf...eRubrique=12&codePage=BFG_PAG_DETAIL2&lang=EN
>> (Long Trail T/A)?
>>
>Looks like they dont my size !!!
>
>Its 215/65R 16
>
>Back to drawing board maybe!
>
>Steve
>

I looked again - the Long Trail isn't the one mentioned by the other
posters. It's the All Terrain T/A KO, which gives the following sizes
on 16" rims:

LT215/70R16 100 R
LT225/70R16 102 R
LT225/75R16 110 S
LT235/70R16 104 S
LT245/70R16 113 S
LT245/75R16 114 S
LT255/70R16 115 S
LT265/70R16 117 S
LT265/75R16 120 S
LT275/70R16 119 S
LT285/75R16 122 R
LT295/75R16 123 R

Is it possible to use something slightly different from what you've
got now?

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> I looked again - the Long Trail isn't the one mentioned by the other
> posters. It's the All Terrain T/A KO, which gives the following sizes
> on 16" rims:
>
> LT215/70R16 100 R
> LT225/70R16 102 R
> LT225/75R16 110 S
> LT235/70R16 104 S
> LT245/70R16 113 S
> LT245/75R16 114 S
> LT255/70R16 115 S
> LT265/70R16 117 S
> LT265/75R16 120 S
> LT275/70R16 119 S
> LT285/75R16 122 R
> LT295/75R16 123 R
>
> Is it possible to use something slightly different from what you've
> got now?
>
Not sure, dont know enough about tyres to say... but Im sure someone will be
along later.............

But if I went that route id have to change all 4, i was hoping to get away
with just 2 now and 2 when the remaining 2 wear away..
Steve


 
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:56:53 GMT, "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> I looked again - the Long Trail isn't the one mentioned by the other
>> posters. It's the All Terrain T/A KO, which gives the following sizes
>> on 16" rims:
>>
>> LT215/70R16 100 R
>> LT225/70R16 102 R
>> LT225/75R16 110 S
>> LT235/70R16 104 S
>> LT245/70R16 113 S
>> LT245/75R16 114 S
>> LT255/70R16 115 S
>> LT265/70R16 117 S
>> LT265/75R16 120 S
>> LT275/70R16 119 S
>> LT285/75R16 122 R
>> LT295/75R16 123 R
>>
>> Is it possible to use something slightly different from what you've
>> got now?
>>
>Not sure, dont know enough about tyres to say... but Im sure someone will be
>along later.............
>
>But if I went that route id have to change all 4, i was hoping to get away
>with just 2 now and 2 when the remaining 2 wear away..
>Steve
>

What's your exact model? I looked up the X Trail using the tyre
locator thing on their site, but got the message that they can supply
your vehicle but you need to contact them.

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