towing, uprating

gothbiker · May 22, 2020

is it possible to uprate my Land Rover so I can tow a big hobby caravan?
the caravan is longer and wider so needs a higher rated tow vehicle, I don't fancy having to buy a twin rear wheel can to tow it with, I seem to be at a loss trying to keep it all road legal.
it isn't for the weight of the caravan its the physical size, it exceeds 7 meters, so a standard 110 won't legally be able to tow it!

thanks in advance

kermit_rr · May 22, 2020

I've never heard of a law regarding the size! It sounds like you need a vehicle with a gross weight over 3.5T

marjon · May 22, 2020

You say it exceeds 7m you sure you are measuring it right? How have you moved it previously?

J

kermit_rr · May 22, 2020

Just looked and hobby have 'van listed on their site with a body length of 7.7m, they show a normal 4x4 towing it, though conveniently the pic was taken on a field!!

lynall · May 22, 2020

gothbiker said:
is it possible to uprate my Land Rover so I can tow a big hobby caravan?
the caravan is longer and wider so needs a higher rated tow vehicle, I don't fancy having to buy a twin rear wheel can to tow it with, I seem to be at a loss trying to keep it all road legal.
it isn't for the weight of the caravan its the physical size, it exceeds 7 meters, so a standard 110 won't legally be able to tow it!

thanks in advance

What do hobby recommend?

gothbiker · May 22, 2020

Hobby don’t recommend anything sort from paying for a delivery, people have bought twin rear wheel vans for moving them.

I haven’t bought it yet, it’s over 7 meters hence it needs a a higher weight, lots of debates on caravan forums what to use normally a big a van.
Would rather prefer to use my Land Rover

marjon · May 22, 2020

gothbiker said:
I haven’t bought it yet,

gothbiker said:
Would rather prefer to use my Land Rover

Then don’t buy it find something that is really legal instead of hoping you can.

J

kermit_rr · May 22, 2020

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/gross-vehicle-weight-over-3500kg-110-defender.244268/

tottot · May 22, 2020

The maximum length of a trailer towed by a vehicle weighing up to 3500 kg is 7 meters.
However the measurement does not include the A frame.

tottot · May 22, 2020

Double post.

Beneagles · May 22, 2020

Hitch up the 110
Drive half a mile.
Develop a fault with the 110 - not difficult, many to choose from

and let the nice man from the local Recovery operation tow it to your destination.

Fix the 110

simples!

gothbiker · May 22, 2020

I've just spoke to a company who can uprate it for just under £300, so all legal.

kermit_rr · May 22, 2020

gothbiker said:
I've just spoke to a company who can uprate it for just under £300, so all legal.

What do they do, exactly? Curious!

Beneagles · May 22, 2020

kermit_rr said:
What do they do, exactly? Curious!

Stick a label on it???

gothbiker · May 22, 2020

I think its more paperwork with the dvla, proof of tow hitch and a few other things.
new vin plates aswell

kermit_rr · May 22, 2020

I would have thought it would need brake and suspension work at least, if it's being re-classed cat C. Is a transmission brake allowed?

Beneagles · May 22, 2020

At £300 it is only going to be documentation based - you wouldn't get parts within that budget, far less labour.
C1 can have transmission brake.

tottot · May 22, 2020

Did you read my post gothbiker ? With out the A frame in the measurement the caravan should be within the legal limit.
New vin plates? The only time I know of is when original has been damaged/ lost and then it has to be the same as the original and matches chassis.
There are no modifications I know of needed for a 110 to tow a caravan/Trailer under 3500kg. How wide is it ? Over the limit.

kermit_rr · May 22, 2020

tottot said:
Did you read my post gothbiker ? With out the A frame in the measurement the caravan should be within the legal limit.
New vin plates? The only time I know of is when original has been damaged/ lost and then it has to be the same as the original and matches chassis.
There are no modifications I know of needed for a 110 to tow a caravan/Trailer under 3500kg. How wide is it ? Over the limit.

Hobby do make 'vans with a body over 7m

tottot · May 22, 2020

Ah, did not realise he was thinking of something bigger than a 7meter.

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