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Ex Alfa Adam

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I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For winch.
I'm stumped!

The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey', with 2
main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever surrounding one
of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable is
drawn in)

Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and release
the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)

Please post or email to my return email address!

Adam H


 

"Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
> winch.
> I'm stumped!

You really should work these things out before you get stumped!


 
Why didnt you ask the chap you bought it off?
If no avail, take in into TJM or ARB and ask the guys behind the counter. If
they are worth there salt they will show you and then when you have is
sussed out they will sell you a snatch block and tree protector strap. Well
that is if the sales guys any good.


"Barnsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:SY%[email protected]...
>
> "Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
>> winch.
>> I'm stumped!
>
> You really should work these things out before you get stumped!
>


 
Ex Alfa Adam wrote:
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For winch.
> I'm stumped!
>
> The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey', with 2
> main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever surrounding one
> of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable is
> drawn in)
>
> Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and release
> the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
>

Do a search for hand winch, there are quite a few heplful sites that may
help. eg,
http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Recovery_Tirfor1.htm



Daryl
 

"Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
> winch.
> I'm stumped!
>
> The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey', with
> 2
> main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever surrounding one
> of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable is
> drawn in)
>
> Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and release
> the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
>
> Please post or email to my return email address!
>
> Adam H
>
>

from my recollection one lever is for rapid take up of slack in that it has
no internal mechanical advantage. And its the one that does not have the
additional smaller lever.

The lever that has the smaller lever is the main activator (MA), it will
have internal mechanical advantage and ****ing it backwards and forwards
takes up the line in small increments. The small lever attached to this
lever must be repositioned to reverse the mechanism. You have to have
tension on the cable and must give the MA lever a quick jerk to get it
started in its release mode...........all sounds very sexual but I assure
you it's not.

dj


 
I don't think you quite understand his problem. He doesn't know how to set
it up let alone start winching with it. Go here
http://4wheeldrive.about.com/gi/dyn...droverclub.net/Club/HTML/Recovery_Tirfor1.htm
..

"engelbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
> > winch.
> > I'm stumped!
> >
> > The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey',
with
> > 2
> > main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever surrounding
one
> > of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable is
> > drawn in)
> >
> > Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and
release
> > the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
> >
> > Please post or email to my return email address!
> >
> > Adam H
> >
> >
>
> from my recollection one lever is for rapid take up of slack in that it
has
> no internal mechanical advantage. And its the one that does not have the
> additional smaller lever.
>
> The lever that has the smaller lever is the main activator (MA), it will
> have internal mechanical advantage and ****ing it backwards and forwards
> takes up the line in small increments. The small lever attached to this
> lever must be repositioned to reverse the mechanism. You have to have
> tension on the cable and must give the MA lever a quick jerk to get it
> started in its release mode...........all sounds very sexual but I assure
> you it's not.
>
> dj
>
>


 
"Foss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't think you quite understand his problem. He doesn't know how to set
> it up let alone start winching with it. Go here from my recollection one
lever is for rapid take up of slack in that it
> has no internal mechanical advantage. And its the one that does not have
the additional smaller lever.
> >
> > The lever that has the smaller lever is the main activator (MA), it will
> > have internal mechanical advantage and ****ing it backwards and forwards
> > takes up the line in small increments. The small lever attached to this
> > lever must be repositioned to reverse the mechanism. You have to have
> > tension on the cable and must give the MA lever a quick jerk to get it
> > started in its release mode...........all sounds very sexual but I
assure
> > you it's not.

Thanks chaps - Englebert got it right and I really don't need it set up as
it is already so - it is hanging onto about half a ton of cast iron keel in
my boat - I want to lower the keel but it isn't letting me! I know these
winches are used for recovery hence my postings to the 4X4 world as well as
the UK Sailing fraternity.

Ah well, off to the sailing club I go this morning and sort things - many
thanks!

Adam H


 

"engelbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
> > winch.
> > I'm stumped!
> >
> > The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey',
with
> > 2
> > main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever surrounding
one
> > of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable is
> > drawn in)
> >
> > Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and
release
> > the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
> >
> > Please post or email to my return email address!
> >
> > Adam H
> >
> >
>
>On my tirfor the smaller of the 2 main levers is a reverse action and
slowly slackens the tension if used.

The small lever around the main wunching lever puls backwards and hooks on
the casing to relase the cable completely so that it can be pulled throuigh
the winch. On my winch it is a bit of a fiddle to set this.

Tony>
> dj
>
>


 
Foss, get some glasses and read his post again.........


"Foss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I don't think you quite understand his problem. He doesn't know how to set
> it up let alone start winching with it. Go here
> http://4wheeldrive.about.com/gi/dyn...droverclub.net/Club/HTML/Recovery_Tirfor1.htm
> .
>
> "engelbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
>> > winch.
>> > I'm stumped!
>> >
>> > The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey',
> with
>> > 2
>> > main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever surrounding
> one
>> > of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable
>> > is
>> > drawn in)
>> >
>> > Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and
> release
>> > the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
>> >
>> > Please post or email to my return email address!
>> >
>> > Adam H
>> >
>> >
>>
>> from my recollection one lever is for rapid take up of slack in that it
> has
>> no internal mechanical advantage. And its the one that does not have the
>> additional smaller lever.
>>
>> The lever that has the smaller lever is the main activator (MA), it will
>> have internal mechanical advantage and ****ing it backwards and forwards
>> takes up the line in small increments. The small lever attached to this
>> lever must be repositioned to reverse the mechanism. You have to have
>> tension on the cable and must give the MA lever a quick jerk to get it
>> started in its release mode...........all sounds very sexual but I assure
>> you it's not.
>>
>> dj
>>
>>
>
>


 
bite me
"engelbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Foss, get some glasses and read his post again.........
>
>
> "Foss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I don't think you quite understand his problem. He doesn't know how to
set
> > it up let alone start winching with it. Go here
> >
http://4wheeldrive.about.com/gi/dyn...droverclub.net/Club/HTML/Recovery_Tirfor1.htm
> > .
> >
> > "engelbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
> >> > winch.
> >> > I'm stumped!
> >> >
> >> > The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey',
> > with
> >> > 2
> >> > main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever
surrounding
> > one
> >> > of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable
> >> > is
> >> > drawn in)
> >> >
> >> > Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and
> > release
> >> > the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
> >> >
> >> > Please post or email to my return email address!
> >> >
> >> > Adam H
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> from my recollection one lever is for rapid take up of slack in that it
> > has
> >> no internal mechanical advantage. And its the one that does not have
the
> >> additional smaller lever.
> >>
> >> The lever that has the smaller lever is the main activator (MA), it
will
> >> have internal mechanical advantage and ****ing it backwards and
forwards
> >> takes up the line in small increments. The small lever attached to this
> >> lever must be repositioned to reverse the mechanism. You have to have
> >> tension on the cable and must give the MA lever a quick jerk to get it
> >> started in its release mode...........all sounds very sexual but I
assure
> >> you it's not.
> >>
> >> dj
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


 
the link tells you how to get the bloody thing going backwards. Glasses
anyone
"engelbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Foss, get some glasses and read his post again.........
>
>
> "Foss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I don't think you quite understand his problem. He doesn't know how to
set
> > it up let alone start winching with it. Go here
> >
http://4wheeldrive.about.com/gi/dyn...droverclub.net/Club/HTML/Recovery_Tirfor1.htm
> > .
> >
> > "engelbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
> >> > winch.
> >> > I'm stumped!
> >> >
> >> > The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey',
> > with
> >> > 2
> >> > main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever
surrounding
> > one
> >> > of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable
> >> > is
> >> > drawn in)
> >> >
> >> > Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and
> > release
> >> > the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
> >> >
> >> > Please post or email to my return email address!
> >> >
> >> > Adam H
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> from my recollection one lever is for rapid take up of slack in that it
> > has
> >> no internal mechanical advantage. And its the one that does not have
the
> >> additional smaller lever.
> >>
> >> The lever that has the smaller lever is the main activator (MA), it
will
> >> have internal mechanical advantage and ****ing it backwards and
forwards
> >> takes up the line in small increments. The small lever attached to this
> >> lever must be repositioned to reverse the mechanism. You have to have
> >> tension on the cable and must give the MA lever a quick jerk to get it
> >> started in its release mode...........all sounds very sexual but I
assure
> >> you it's not.
> >>
> >> dj
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


 

"Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Foss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I don't think you quite understand his problem. He doesn't know how to
>> set
>> it up let alone start winching with it. Go here from my recollection one
> lever is for rapid take up of slack in that it
>> has no internal mechanical advantage. And its the one that does not have
> the additional smaller lever.
>> >
>> > The lever that has the smaller lever is the main activator (MA), it
>> > will
>> > have internal mechanical advantage and ****ing it backwards and
>> > forwards
>> > takes up the line in small increments. The small lever attached to this
>> > lever must be repositioned to reverse the mechanism. You have to have
>> > tension on the cable and must give the MA lever a quick jerk to get it
>> > started in its release mode...........all sounds very sexual but I
> assure
>> > you it's not.
>
> Thanks chaps - Englebert got it right and I really don't need it set up as
> it is already so - it is hanging onto about half a ton of cast iron keel
> in
> my boat - I want to lower the keel but it isn't letting me! I know these
> winches are used for recovery hence my postings to the 4X4 world as well
> as
> the UK Sailing fraternity.
>
> Ah well, off to the sailing club I go this morning and sort things - many
> thanks!
>
> Adam H
>
>

if you have that much load on it, it will require some jerk on the reversing
lever to get it to unlatch.

eng


 

"Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Foss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I don't think you quite understand his problem. He doesn't know how to
set
> > it up let alone start winching with it. Go here from my recollection
one
> lever is for rapid take up of slack in that it
> > has no internal mechanical advantage. And its the one that does not have
> the additional smaller lever.
> > >
> > > The lever that has the smaller lever is the main activator (MA), it
will
> > > have internal mechanical advantage and ****ing it backwards and
forwards
> > > takes up the line in small increments. The small lever attached to
this
> > > lever must be repositioned to reverse the mechanism. You have to have
> > > tension on the cable and must give the MA lever a quick jerk to get it
> > > started in its release mode...........all sounds very sexual but I
> assure
> > > you it's not.
>
> Thanks chaps - Englebert got it right and I really don't need it set up as
> it is already so - it is hanging onto about half a ton of cast iron keel
in
> my boat - I want to lower the keel but it isn't letting me! I know these
> winches are used for recovery hence my postings to the 4X4 world as well
as
> the UK Sailing fraternity.
>
> Ah well, off to the sailing club I go this morning and sort things - many
> thanks!
>
> Adam H
>
>

http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000070.php


--
Regards ..... Rheilly Phoull


 
It is not a TIRFOR . It is probably a copy of inferior quality.
The trifor are reputed to be the best winches of this kind available.





"Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
winch.
> I'm stumped!
>
> The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey', with
2
> main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever surrounding one
> of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable is
> drawn in)
>
> Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and release
> the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
>
> Please post or email to my return email address!
>
> Adam H
>
>


 

"Barry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is not a TIRFOR . It is probably a copy of inferior quality.
> The trifor are reputed to be the best winches of this kind available.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ex Alfa Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm trying to figure out how to use my newly purchased (used) Tir-For
> winch.
> > I'm stumped!
> >
> > The winch I have is red plastic sided, with the brand name 'Jockey',
with
> 2
> > main levers poking out one side, and another smaller lever surrounding
one
> > of the main levers at one end. (Not the end where the tensioned cable is
> > drawn in)
> >
> > Winching forward is OK, but how do I get the thing to reverse and
release
> > the cable in a controlled manner? (Or ANY manner!)
> >
> > Please post or email to my return email address!
> >
> > Adam H
> >


Jockey is one of Tirfor's models.
AFAIK, you flip the small lever and pump the big one
to wind in. You then flip the lever and pump the big one
again to release the load in a controlled manner.
The remaining lever should let it freewheel so
you can pull a length of cable.
Caveat: I only have a cheap winch, not a real tirfor.

Alisdair


 
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