-=The Forgotten Seven Week Ceasefire=-

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I have been disgusted and angry as an American over the past few weeks as I
have watched with my own eyes as the so-called "liberal" media rewrote history
as it happened.

For seven weeks members of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the Alaqsa
Martyers Brigades respected a requested ceasefire from Prime Minister Abu
Abbas. During this time Israel complained again and again that they did not
want a ceasefire; they wanted Abu Abbas to arrest or kill the members of these
groups.

Not once did any major media outlet in America that engages in analysis of
events in the Mid East tell their readers of the strength of Hamas and the
other groups, and how the Israeli demand would provoke the death of Abu Abbas
and possibly kick off a civil war among the Palestinians.

The American people were never told this because that is Israel's goal, to get
the Palestinians to kill off their warrior class so that Israel will not have
to do it. Then Israel can increase their land grab for a number of years,
turning their trailer "outposts" into condominiums (paid for by the American
taxpayer who is never told of this welfare benefit to wealthy Jews).

Recently George Bush Jr., the appointed President, appointed a Jew Nazi to the
United States government's Mid East "peace" council (US Institute for Peace).

Daniel Pipes is so ethnocentric and rightwing that if he were not a Jew he
would be classified as more "extremist" than David Duke. Because he is a Jew
though Daniel Pipes is given the kind of respect accorded heads of state by
the "American" media.

The "American" media continue to describe Colin Powell as some kind of
"liberal" when in fact he is a thoroughly rightwing military general who has
always advocated a military philosophy of "overwhelming force", which is a
nice way of saying "don't go to war unless you can massacre the other side
without taking casualties". If this is what qualifies as "liberal" then it's
not hard to understand why the political establishment in America has no
problem with supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

It's also worth noting that Colin Powell speaks Yiddish.

So Sunday has been yet another reevaluation of "where do we go from here?" in
the papers and on the Sunday morning news programs. In these reevaluations the
new history of the last few months does not include the seven week ceasefire
that was deliberately smashed by the Israelis. Instead the "road map" was
destroyed by a bus bombing (the kind of bombing that always seems to occur at
just the right time as Israel is most upset with peace negotiations actually
progressing).

How could the "American" media forget what just happened a few weeks ago?
Well, they had to forget right? I mean the only other conclusion is that the
media in America is supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

That means that Peter Jennings is a genocidal murderer. As is Tom Brokaw, Dan
Rather, the Jewish Matt Lauer, and the Jewish Ted Koppel. Time Magazine,
Newsweek, the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and others
are all complicit in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

Just this week I was flipping through the channels and saw Alan Dershowitz on
the Today Show pushing a book in which he was ridiculing and slandering those
who defended the Palestinians from the sheer genocidal terror of Israel. The
same Alan Dershowitz who made an appearance on "60 Minutes" last year
advocating that the "American" government engage in torture of prisoners.

Is there any other media anywhere in the world -other than Israel- that would
welcome such a loathsome creature as Alan Dershowitz on their national
television broadcasts?

David Duke is clearly "to the left" of Alan Dershowitz and he was not invited
on the Today Show to push his book.

So you see why the "American" media does not criticize the "American"
government for not recognizing the World Court or the authority of the United
Nations. Clearly the most prominent members of the "American" media understand
that they could be legitimately indicted and convicted of war crimes.

Such is the nature of forgetting about a seven week ceasefire just a few weeks
after Israel deliberately destroyed it, and the "road map", while the building
of new "settlements" continues.

You are just too angry. You need to just slow down and go with the flow.
We can do lots of things in the mideast but we will never have peace. Those
people have been fighting since biblical times and it has nothing to do with
who is killing who. Simply read the bible (I don't believe in the bible,
btw) - start way back in the time of Abraham. The decendants of his bastard
son think they are the chosen ones and the decendants of his second son
think they are the chosen ones. Those people will never have peace. There
is nothing we can do about it. We'll have meetings and cease-fires and they
will continue to kill each other. They haven't stopped in 5000 years, so it
will go on until the return of Christ (if you believe that stuff) - There is
no possible way to change the course that our government takes, so just get
a beer and sit back. Just my 02. . . . . .
..
"Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> I have been disgusted and angry as an American over the past few weeks as
I
> have watched with my own eyes as the so-called "liberal" media rewrote
history
> as it happened.
>
> For seven weeks members of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the
Alaqsa
> Martyers Brigades respected a requested ceasefire from Prime Minister Abu
> Abbas. During this time Israel complained again and again that they did
not
> want a ceasefire; they wanted Abu Abbas to arrest or kill the members of
these
> groups.
>
> Not once did any major media outlet in America that engages in analysis of
> events in the Mid East tell their readers of the strength of Hamas and the
> other groups, and how the Israeli demand would provoke the death of Abu
Abbas
> and possibly kick off a civil war among the Palestinians.
>
> The American people were never told this because that is Israel's goal, to
get
> the Palestinians to kill off their warrior class so that Israel will not
have
> to do it. Then Israel can increase their land grab for a number of years,
> turning their trailer "outposts" into condominiums (paid for by the
American
> taxpayer who is never told of this welfare benefit to wealthy Jews).
>
> Recently George Bush Jr., the appointed President, appointed a Jew Nazi to
the
> United States government's Mid East "peace" council (US Institute for
Peace).
>
> Daniel Pipes is so ethnocentric and rightwing that if he were not a Jew he
> would be classified as more "extremist" than David Duke. Because he is a
Jew
> though Daniel Pipes is given the kind of respect accorded heads of state
by
> the "American" media.
>
> The "American" media continue to describe Colin Powell as some kind of
> "liberal" when in fact he is a thoroughly rightwing military general who
has
> always advocated a military philosophy of "overwhelming force", which is a
> nice way of saying "don't go to war unless you can massacre the other side
> without taking casualties". If this is what qualifies as "liberal" then
it's
> not hard to understand why the political establishment in America has no
> problem with supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>
> It's also worth noting that Colin Powell speaks Yiddish.
>
> So Sunday has been yet another reevaluation of "where do we go from here?"
in
> the papers and on the Sunday morning news programs. In these reevaluations
the
> new history of the last few months does not include the seven week
ceasefire
> that was deliberately smashed by the Israelis. Instead the "road map" was
> destroyed by a bus bombing (the kind of bombing that always seems to occur
at
> just the right time as Israel is most upset with peace negotiations
actually
> progressing).
>
> How could the "American" media forget what just happened a few weeks ago?
> Well, they had to forget right? I mean the only other conclusion is that
the
> media in America is supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>
> That means that Peter Jennings is a genocidal murderer. As is Tom Brokaw,
Dan
> Rather, the Jewish Matt Lauer, and the Jewish Ted Koppel. Time Magazine,
> Newsweek, the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and
others
> are all complicit in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>
> Just this week I was flipping through the channels and saw Alan Dershowitz
on
> the Today Show pushing a book in which he was ridiculing and slandering
those
> who defended the Palestinians from the sheer genocidal terror of Israel.
The
> same Alan Dershowitz who made an appearance on "60 Minutes" last year
> advocating that the "American" government engage in torture of prisoners.
>
> Is there any other media anywhere in the world -other than Israel- that
would
> welcome such a loathsome creature as Alan Dershowitz on their national
> television broadcasts?
>
> David Duke is clearly "to the left" of Alan Dershowitz and he was not
invited
> on the Today Show to push his book.
>
> So you see why the "American" media does not criticize the "American"
> government for not recognizing the World Court or the authority of the
United
> Nations. Clearly the most prominent members of the "American" media
understand
> that they could be legitimately indicted and convicted of war crimes.
>
> Such is the nature of forgetting about a seven week ceasefire just a few
weeks
> after Israel deliberately destroyed it, and the "road map", while the
building
> of new "settlements" continues.
>
>
>

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>You are just too angry. You need to just slow down and go with the flow.
>We can do lots of things in the mideast but we will never have peace. Those
>people have been fighting since biblical times and it has nothing to do with
>who is killing who. Simply read the bible (I don't believe in the bible,
>btw) - start way back in the time of Abraham. The decendants of his bastard
>son think they are the chosen ones and the decendants of his second son
>think they are the chosen ones. Those people will never have peace. There
>is nothing we can do about it. We'll have meetings and cease-fires and they
>will continue to kill each other. They haven't stopped in 5000 years, so it
>will go on until the return of Christ (if you believe that stuff) - There is
>no possible way to change the course that our government takes, so just get
>a beer and sit back. Just my 02. . . . . .

Your thoughts aren't worth two cents.

Israel is sucking over $12 billion a year out of America in taxpayer dollars,
only God knows how many more billions they are stealing through massive
financial scams of which Jews are the masters.

Jews are in almost complete control of every aspect of the "American"
government, they are responsible for 9/11 and the destruction of our Constitution.

They have penetrated every major police agency in this country.

See:

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&output=gplain

and

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&output=gplain

The Jew Cabal in Washington led by Wolfowitz and Richard Perle have
plans to hijack the American defense industry and move it along with
its corresponding research and financial institutions to Israel to rule the
world through terrorism as they create a Jew empire in the Mid East.

See: http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm

Voting for "Democrats" will not end this problem either. It makes no difference
which party is in charge, the Jews control both and more importantly they
control the important institutions of America.


>"Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> I have been disgusted and angry as an American over the past few weeks as
>I have watched with my own eyes as the so-called "liberal" media rewrote
>history as it happened.
>>
>> For seven weeks members of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the
>Alaqsa Martyers Brigades respected a requested ceasefire from Prime Minister Abu
>> Abbas. During this time Israel complained again and again that they did
>not want a ceasefire; they wanted Abu Abbas to arrest or kill the members of
>these groups.
>>
>> Not once did any major media outlet in America that engages in analysis of
>> events in the Mid East tell their readers of the strength of Hamas and the
>> other groups, and how the Israeli demand would provoke the death of Abu
>Abbas and possibly kick off a civil war among the Palestinians.
>>
>> The American people were never told this because that is Israel's goal, to
>get the Palestinians to kill off their warrior class so that Israel will not
>have to do it. Then Israel can increase their land grab for a number of years,
>> turning their trailer "outposts" into condominiums (paid for by the
>American taxpayer who is never told of this welfare benefit to wealthy Jews).
>>
>> Recently George Bush Jr., the appointed President, appointed a Jew Nazi to
>the United States government's Mid East "peace" council (US Institute for
>Peace).
>>
>> Daniel Pipes is so ethnocentric and rightwing that if he were not a Jew he
>> would be classified as more "extremist" than David Duke. Because he is a
>Jew though Daniel Pipes is given the kind of respect accorded heads of state
>by the "American" media.
>>
>> The "American" media continue to describe Colin Powell as some kind of
>> "liberal" when in fact he is a thoroughly rightwing military general who
>has always advocated a military philosophy of "overwhelming force", which is a
>> nice way of saying "don't go to war unless you can massacre the other side
>> without taking casualties". If this is what qualifies as "liberal" then
>>it's not hard to understand why the political establishment in America has no
>> problem with supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>>
>> It's also worth noting that Colin Powell speaks Yiddish.
>>
>> So Sunday has been yet another reevaluation of "where do we go from here?"
>in the papers and on the Sunday morning news programs. In these reevaluations
>the new history of the last few months does not include the seven week
>ceasefire that was deliberately smashed by the Israelis. Instead the "road map" was
>> destroyed by a bus bombing (the kind of bombing that always seems to occur
>at just the right time as Israel is most upset with peace negotiations
>actually progressing).
>>
>> How could the "American" media forget what just happened a few weeks ago?
>> Well, they had to forget right? I mean the only other conclusion is that
>the media in America is supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>>
>> That means that Peter Jennings is a genocidal murderer. As is Tom Brokaw,
>Dan Rather, the Jewish Matt Lauer, and the Jewish Ted Koppel. Time Magazine,
>> Newsweek, the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and
>others are all complicit in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>>
>> Just this week I was flipping through the channels and saw Alan Dershowitz
>on the Today Show pushing a book in which he was ridiculing and slandering
>those who defended the Palestinians from the sheer genocidal terror of Israel.
>The same Alan Dershowitz who made an appearance on "60 Minutes" last year
>> advocating that the "American" government engage in torture of prisoners.
>> Is there any other media anywhere in the world -other than Israel- that
>would welcome such a loathsome creature as Alan Dershowitz on their national
>> television broadcasts?
>>
>> David Duke is clearly "to the left" of Alan Dershowitz and he was not
>invited on the Today Show to push his book.
>>
>> So you see why the "American" media does not criticize the "American"
>> government for not recognizing the World Court or the authority of the
>United Nations. Clearly the most prominent members of the "American" media
>understand that they could be legitimately indicted and convicted of war crimes.
>>
>> Such is the nature of forgetting about a seven week ceasefire just a few
>weeks after Israel deliberately destroyed it, and the "road map", while the
>building of new "settlements" continues.

You need to change your name to Asleep.
"Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >You are just too angry. You need to just slow down and go with the flow.
> >We can do lots of things in the mideast but we will never have peace.
Those
> >people have been fighting since biblical times and it has nothing to do
with
> >who is killing who. Simply read the bible (I don't believe in the bible,
> >btw) - start way back in the time of Abraham. The decendants of his
bastard
> >son think they are the chosen ones and the decendants of his second son
> >think they are the chosen ones. Those people will never have peace.
There
> >is nothing we can do about it. We'll have meetings and cease-fires and
they
> >will continue to kill each other. They haven't stopped in 5000 years, so
it
> >will go on until the return of Christ (if you believe that stuff) - There
is
> >no possible way to change the course that our government takes, so just
get
> >a beer and sit back. Just my 02. . . . . .
>
> Your thoughts aren't worth two cents.
>
> Israel is sucking over $12 billion a year out of America in taxpayer
dollars,
> only God knows how many more billions they are stealing through massive
> financial scams of which Jews are the masters.
>
> Jews are in almost complete control of every aspect of the "American"
> government, they are responsible for 9/11 and the destruction of our
Constitution.
>
> They have penetrated every major police agency in this country.
>
> See:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=LS8LDLL637864.0460648148@Gilgamesh-fr
og.org&output=gplain
>
> and
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=85UOSEWY37873.4345949074@Gilgamesh-fr
og.org&output=gplain
>
> The Jew Cabal in Washington led by Wolfowitz and Richard Perle have
> plans to hijack the American defense industry and move it along with
> its corresponding research and financial institutions to Israel to rule
the
> world through terrorism as they create a Jew empire in the Mid East.
>
> See: http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm
>
> Voting for "Democrats" will not end this problem either. It makes no
difference
> which party is in charge, the Jews control both and more importantly they
> control the important institutions of America.
>
>
> >"Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >> I have been disgusted and angry as an American over the past few weeks
as
> >I have watched with my own eyes as the so-called "liberal" media rewrote
> >history as it happened.
> >>
> >> For seven weeks members of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the
> >Alaqsa Martyers Brigades respected a requested ceasefire from Prime
Minister Abu
> >> Abbas. During this time Israel complained again and again that they did
> >not want a ceasefire; they wanted Abu Abbas to arrest or kill the members
of
> >these groups.
> >>
> >> Not once did any major media outlet in America that engages in analysis
of
> >> events in the Mid East tell their readers of the strength of Hamas and
the
> >> other groups, and how the Israeli demand would provoke the death of Abu
> >Abbas and possibly kick off a civil war among the Palestinians.
> >>
> >> The American people were never told this because that is Israel's goal,
to
> >get the Palestinians to kill off their warrior class so that Israel will
not
> >have to do it. Then Israel can increase their land grab for a number of
years,
> >> turning their trailer "outposts" into condominiums (paid for by the
> >American taxpayer who is never told of this welfare benefit to wealthy
Jews).
> >>
> >> Recently George Bush Jr., the appointed President, appointed a Jew Nazi
to
> >the United States government's Mid East "peace" council (US Institute for
> >Peace).
> >>
> >> Daniel Pipes is so ethnocentric and rightwing that if he were not a Jew
he
> >> would be classified as more "extremist" than David Duke. Because he is
a
> >Jew though Daniel Pipes is given the kind of respect accorded heads of
state
> >by the "American" media.
> >>
> >> The "American" media continue to describe Colin Powell as some kind of
> >> "liberal" when in fact he is a thoroughly rightwing military general
who
> >has always advocated a military philosophy of "overwhelming force", which
is a
> >> nice way of saying "don't go to war unless you can massacre the other
side
> >> without taking casualties". If this is what qualifies as "liberal" then
> >>it's not hard to understand why the political establishment in America
has no
> >> problem with supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
> >>
> >> It's also worth noting that Colin Powell speaks Yiddish.
> >>
> >> So Sunday has been yet another reevaluation of "where do we go from
here?"
> >in the papers and on the Sunday morning news programs. In these
reevaluations
> >the new history of the last few months does not include the seven week
> >ceasefire that was deliberately smashed by the Israelis. Instead the
"road map" was
> >> destroyed by a bus bombing (the kind of bombing that always seems to
occur
> >at just the right time as Israel is most upset with peace negotiations
> >actually progressing).
> >>
> >> How could the "American" media forget what just happened a few weeks
ago?
> >> Well, they had to forget right? I mean the only other conclusion is
that
> >the media in America is supporting the ethnic cleansing of the
Palestinians.
> >>
> >> That means that Peter Jennings is a genocidal murderer. As is Tom
Brokaw,
> >Dan Rather, the Jewish Matt Lauer, and the Jewish Ted Koppel. Time
Magazine,
> >> Newsweek, the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and
> >others are all complicit in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
> >>
> >> Just this week I was flipping through the channels and saw Alan
Dershowitz
> >on the Today Show pushing a book in which he was ridiculing and
slandering
> >those who defended the Palestinians from the sheer genocidal terror of
Israel.
> >The same Alan Dershowitz who made an appearance on "60 Minutes" last year
> >> advocating that the "American" government engage in torture of
prisoners.
> >> Is there any other media anywhere in the world -other than Israel- that
> >would welcome such a loathsome creature as Alan Dershowitz on their
national
> >> television broadcasts?
> >>
> >> David Duke is clearly "to the left" of Alan Dershowitz and he was not
> >invited on the Today Show to push his book.
> >>
> >> So you see why the "American" media does not criticize the "American"
> >> government for not recognizing the World Court or the authority of the
> >United Nations. Clearly the most prominent members of the "American"
media
> >understand that they could be legitimately indicted and convicted of war
crimes.
> >>
> >> Such is the nature of forgetting about a seven week ceasefire just a
few
> >weeks after Israel deliberately destroyed it, and the "road map", while
the
> >building of new "settlements" continues.
>
>
>
>

Or deluded.



"John Wonderly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:rmY7b.439$%[email protected]...
> You need to change your name to Asleep.
> "Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >You are just too angry. You need to just slow down and go with the
flow.
> > >We can do lots of things in the mideast but we will never have peace.
> Those
> > >people have been fighting since biblical times and it has nothing to do
> with
> > >who is killing who. Simply read the bible (I don't believe in the
bible,
> > >btw) - start way back in the time of Abraham. The decendants of his
> bastard
> > >son think they are the chosen ones and the decendants of his second son
> > >think they are the chosen ones. Those people will never have peace.
> There
> > >is nothing we can do about it. We'll have meetings and cease-fires and
> they
> > >will continue to kill each other. They haven't stopped in 5000 years,
so
> it
> > >will go on until the return of Christ (if you believe that stuff) -
There
> is
> > >no possible way to change the course that our government takes, so just
> get
> > >a beer and sit back. Just my 02. . . . . .
> >
> > Your thoughts aren't worth two cents.
> >
> > Israel is sucking over $12 billion a year out of America in taxpayer
> dollars,
> > only God knows how many more billions they are stealing through massive
> > financial scams of which Jews are the masters.
> >
> > Jews are in almost complete control of every aspect of the "American"
> > government, they are responsible for 9/11 and the destruction of our
> Constitution.
> >
> > They have penetrated every major police agency in this country.
> >
> > See:
> >
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=LS8LDLL637864.0460648148@Gilgamesh-fr
> og.org&output=gplain
> >
> > and
> >
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=85UOSEWY37873.4345949074@Gilgamesh-fr
> og.org&output=gplain
> >
> > The Jew Cabal in Washington led by Wolfowitz and Richard Perle have
> > plans to hijack the American defense industry and move it along with
> > its corresponding research and financial institutions to Israel to rule
> the
> > world through terrorism as they create a Jew empire in the Mid East.
> >
> > See: http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm
> >
> > Voting for "Democrats" will not end this problem either. It makes no
> difference
> > which party is in charge, the Jews control both and more importantly
they
> > control the important institutions of America.
> >
> >
> > >"Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>
> > >> I have been disgusted and angry as an American over the past few
weeks
> as
> > >I have watched with my own eyes as the so-called "liberal" media
rewrote
> > >history as it happened.
> > >>
> > >> For seven weeks members of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the
> > >Alaqsa Martyers Brigades respected a requested ceasefire from Prime
> Minister Abu
> > >> Abbas. During this time Israel complained again and again that they
did
> > >not want a ceasefire; they wanted Abu Abbas to arrest or kill the
members
> of
> > >these groups.
> > >>
> > >> Not once did any major media outlet in America that engages in
analysis
> of
> > >> events in the Mid East tell their readers of the strength of Hamas
and
> the
> > >> other groups, and how the Israeli demand would provoke the death of
Abu
> > >Abbas and possibly kick off a civil war among the Palestinians.
> > >>
> > >> The American people were never told this because that is Israel's
goal,
> to
> > >get the Palestinians to kill off their warrior class so that Israel
will
> not
> > >have to do it. Then Israel can increase their land grab for a number of
> years,
> > >> turning their trailer "outposts" into condominiums (paid for by the
> > >American taxpayer who is never told of this welfare benefit to wealthy
> Jews).
> > >>
> > >> Recently George Bush Jr., the appointed President, appointed a Jew
Nazi
> to
> > >the United States government's Mid East "peace" council (US Institute
for
> > >Peace).
> > >>
> > >> Daniel Pipes is so ethnocentric and rightwing that if he were not a
Jew
> he
> > >> would be classified as more "extremist" than David Duke. Because he
is
> a
> > >Jew though Daniel Pipes is given the kind of respect accorded heads of
> state
> > >by the "American" media.
> > >>
> > >> The "American" media continue to describe Colin Powell as some kind
of
> > >> "liberal" when in fact he is a thoroughly rightwing military general
> who
> > >has always advocated a military philosophy of "overwhelming force",
which
> is a
> > >> nice way of saying "don't go to war unless you can massacre the other
> side
> > >> without taking casualties". If this is what qualifies as "liberal"
then
> > >>it's not hard to understand why the political establishment in America
> has no
> > >> problem with supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
> > >>
> > >> It's also worth noting that Colin Powell speaks Yiddish.
> > >>
> > >> So Sunday has been yet another reevaluation of "where do we go from
> here?"
> > >in the papers and on the Sunday morning news programs. In these
> reevaluations
> > >the new history of the last few months does not include the seven week
> > >ceasefire that was deliberately smashed by the Israelis. Instead the
> "road map" was
> > >> destroyed by a bus bombing (the kind of bombing that always seems to
> occur
> > >at just the right time as Israel is most upset with peace negotiations
> > >actually progressing).
> > >>
> > >> How could the "American" media forget what just happened a few weeks
> ago?
> > >> Well, they had to forget right? I mean the only other conclusion is
> that
> > >the media in America is supporting the ethnic cleansing of the
> Palestinians.
> > >>
> > >> That means that Peter Jennings is a genocidal murderer. As is Tom
> Brokaw,
> > >Dan Rather, the Jewish Matt Lauer, and the Jewish Ted Koppel. Time
> Magazine,
> > >> Newsweek, the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and
> > >others are all complicit in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
> > >>
> > >> Just this week I was flipping through the channels and saw Alan
> Dershowitz
> > >on the Today Show pushing a book in which he was ridiculing and
> slandering
> > >those who defended the Palestinians from the sheer genocidal terror of
> Israel.
> > >The same Alan Dershowitz who made an appearance on "60 Minutes" last
year
> > >> advocating that the "American" government engage in torture of
> prisoners.
> > >> Is there any other media anywhere in the world -other than Israel-
that
> > >would welcome such a loathsome creature as Alan Dershowitz on their
> national
> > >> television broadcasts?
> > >>
> > >> David Duke is clearly "to the left" of Alan Dershowitz and he was not
> > >invited on the Today Show to push his book.
> > >>
> > >> So you see why the "American" media does not criticize the "American"
> > >> government for not recognizing the World Court or the authority of
the
> > >United Nations. Clearly the most prominent members of the "American"
> media
> > >understand that they could be legitimately indicted and convicted of
war
> crimes.
> > >>
> > >> Such is the nature of forgetting about a seven week ceasefire just a
> few
> > >weeks after Israel deliberately destroyed it, and the "road map", while
> the
> > >building of new "settlements" continues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

On 11 Sep 2003 01:38:36 +0200, [email protected]er
(Awake) wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>You are just too angry. You need to just slow down and go with the flow.
>>We can do lots of things in the mideast but we will never have peace. Those
>>people have been fighting since biblical times and it has nothing to do with
>>who is killing who. Simply read the bible (I don't believe in the bible,
>>btw) - start way back in the time of Abraham. The decendants of his bastard
>>son think they are the chosen ones and the decendants of his second son
>>think they are the chosen ones. Those people will never have peace. There
>>is nothing we can do about it. We'll have meetings and cease-fires and they
>>will continue to kill each other. They haven't stopped in 5000 years, so it
>>will go on until the return of Christ (if you believe that stuff) - There is
>>no possible way to change the course that our government takes, so just get
>>a beer and sit back. Just my 02. . . . . .
>
>Your thoughts aren't worth two cents.
>

>
>Jews are in almost complete control of every aspect of the "American"
>government, they are responsible for 9/11 and the destruction of our Constitution.
>
>They have penetrated every major police agency in this country.
>
>See:
>
>http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&output=gplain
>
>and
>
>http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&output=gplain
>
>The Jew Cabal in Washington led by Wolfowitz and Richard Perle have
>plans to hijack the American defense industry and move it along with
>

Is that you Adolf?

Now **** off.

Ritchard Findlay, someone's going to have a go at you for not trimmng your
post...and posting at the top...

Naughty, naughty...

))
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"Ritchard Findlay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Or deluded.
>
>
>
> "John Wonderly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:rmY7b.439$%[email protected]...
> > You need to change your name to Asleep.
> > "Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >You are just too angry. You need to just slow down and go with the
> flow.
> > > >We can do lots of things in the mideast but we will never have peace.
> > Those
> > > >people have been fighting since biblical times and it has nothing to
do
> > with
> > > >who is killing who. Simply read the bible (I don't believe in the
> bible,
> > > >btw) - start way back in the time of Abraham. The decendants of his
> > bastard
> > > >son think they are the chosen ones and the decendants of his second
son
> > > >think they are the chosen ones. Those people will never have peace.
> > There
> > > >is nothing we can do about it. We'll have meetings and cease-fires
and
> > they
> > > >will continue to kill each other. They haven't stopped in 5000
years,
> so
> > it
> > > >will go on until the return of Christ (if you believe that stuff) -
> There
> > is
> > > >no possible way to change the course that our government takes, so
just
> > get
> > > >a beer and sit back. Just my 02. . . . . .
> > >
> > > Your thoughts aren't worth two cents.
> > >
> > > Israel is sucking over $12 billion a year out of America in taxpayer
> > dollars,
> > > only God knows how many more billions they are stealing through
massive
> > > financial scams of which Jews are the masters.
> > >
> > > Jews are in almost complete control of every aspect of the "American"
> > > government, they are responsible for 9/11 and the destruction of our
> > Constitution.
> > >
> > > They have penetrated every major police agency in this country.
> > >
> > > See:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=LS8LDLL637864.0460648148@Gilgamesh-fr
> > og.org&output=gplain
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=85UOSEWY37873.4345949074@Gilgamesh-fr
> > og.org&output=gplain
> > >
> > > The Jew Cabal in Washington led by Wolfowitz and Richard Perle have
> > > plans to hijack the American defense industry and move it along with
> > > its corresponding research and financial institutions to Israel to
rule
> > the
> > > world through terrorism as they create a Jew empire in the Mid East.
> > >
> > > See: http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm
> > >
> > > Voting for "Democrats" will not end this problem either. It makes no
> > difference
> > > which party is in charge, the Jews control both and more importantly
> they
> > > control the important institutions of America.
> > >
> > >
> > > >"Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > >news:[email protected]...
> > > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >>
> > > >> I have been disgusted and angry as an American over the past few
> weeks
> > as
> > > >I have watched with my own eyes as the so-called "liberal" media
> rewrote
> > > >history as it happened.
> > > >>
> > > >> For seven weeks members of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and
the
> > > >Alaqsa Martyers Brigades respected a requested ceasefire from Prime
> > Minister Abu
> > > >> Abbas. During this time Israel complained again and again that they
> did
> > > >not want a ceasefire; they wanted Abu Abbas to arrest or kill the
> members
> > of
> > > >these groups.
> > > >>
> > > >> Not once did any major media outlet in America that engages in
> analysis
> > of
> > > >> events in the Mid East tell their readers of the strength of Hamas
> and
> > the
> > > >> other groups, and how the Israeli demand would provoke the death of
> Abu
> > > >Abbas and possibly kick off a civil war among the Palestinians.
> > > >>
> > > >> The American people were never told this because that is Israel's
> goal,
> > to
> > > >get the Palestinians to kill off their warrior class so that Israel
> will
> > not
> > > >have to do it. Then Israel can increase their land grab for a number
of
> > years,
> > > >> turning their trailer "outposts" into condominiums (paid for by the
> > > >American taxpayer who is never told of this welfare benefit to
wealthy
> > Jews).
> > > >>
> > > >> Recently George Bush Jr., the appointed President, appointed a Jew
> Nazi
> > to
> > > >the United States government's Mid East "peace" council (US Institute
> for
> > > >Peace).
> > > >>
> > > >> Daniel Pipes is so ethnocentric and rightwing that if he were not a
> Jew
> > he
> > > >> would be classified as more "extremist" than David Duke. Because he
> is
> > a
> > > >Jew though Daniel Pipes is given the kind of respect accorded heads
of
> > state
> > > >by the "American" media.
> > > >>
> > > >> The "American" media continue to describe Colin Powell as some kind
> of
> > > >> "liberal" when in fact he is a thoroughly rightwing military
general
> > who
> > > >has always advocated a military philosophy of "overwhelming force",
> which
> > is a
> > > >> nice way of saying "don't go to war unless you can massacre the
other
> > side
> > > >> without taking casualties". If this is what qualifies as "liberal"
> then
> > > >>it's not hard to understand why the political establishment in
America
> > has no
> > > >> problem with supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's also worth noting that Colin Powell speaks Yiddish.
> > > >>
> > > >> So Sunday has been yet another reevaluation of "where do we go from
> > here?"
> > > >in the papers and on the Sunday morning news programs. In these
> > reevaluations
> > > >the new history of the last few months does not include the seven
week
> > > >ceasefire that was deliberately smashed by the Israelis. Instead the
> > "road map" was
> > > >> destroyed by a bus bombing (the kind of bombing that always seems
to
> > occur
> > > >at just the right time as Israel is most upset with peace
negotiations
> > > >actually progressing).
> > > >>
> > > >> How could the "American" media forget what just happened a few
weeks
> > ago?
> > > >> Well, they had to forget right? I mean the only other conclusion is
> > that
> > > >the media in America is supporting the ethnic cleansing of the
> > Palestinians.
> > > >>
> > > >> That means that Peter Jennings is a genocidal murderer. As is Tom
> > Brokaw,
> > > >Dan Rather, the Jewish Matt Lauer, and the Jewish Ted Koppel. Time
> > Magazine,
> > > >> Newsweek, the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times
and
> > > >others are all complicit in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
> > > >>
> > > >> Just this week I was flipping through the channels and saw Alan
> > Dershowitz
> > > >on the Today Show pushing a book in which he was ridiculing and
> > slandering
> > > >those who defended the Palestinians from the sheer genocidal terror
of
> > Israel.
> > > >The same Alan Dershowitz who made an appearance on "60 Minutes" last
> year
> > > >> advocating that the "American" government engage in torture of
> > prisoners.
> > > >> Is there any other media anywhere in the world -other than Israel-
> that
> > > >would welcome such a loathsome creature as Alan Dershowitz on their
> > national
> > > >> television broadcasts?
> > > >>
> > > >> David Duke is clearly "to the left" of Alan Dershowitz and he was
not
> > > >invited on the Today Show to push his book.
> > > >>
> > > >> So you see why the "American" media does not criticize the
"American"
> > > >> government for not recognizing the World Court or the authority of
> the
> > > >United Nations. Clearly the most prominent members of the "American"
> > media
> > > >understand that they could be legitimately indicted and convicted of
> war
> > crimes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Such is the nature of forgetting about a seven week ceasefire just
a
> > few
> > > >weeks after Israel deliberately destroyed it, and the "road map",
while
> > the
> > > >building of new "settlements" continues.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Anti-semetic I see. You know, you would have fit in somewhere in
history... I don't know... maybe NAZI ****ING GERMANY. You are a
disgrace and people like you are why there are so many problems in the
mideast. I'll remind you that the Palestinians broke the ceasefire,
not the Israelies. Arrafat will talk about working with Israelis but
when he gives a speech to Palestinians encourages them to suicide bomb
and kill westerners and Jews alike.

[email protected] (Jason Kavanaugh) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Anti-semetic I see. You know, you would have fit in somewhere in
> history... I don't know... maybe NAZI ****ING GERMANY.

I'm being lenient and giving you a Godwin Mulligan.

Let's see what you do with it.

> I'll remind you that the Palestinians broke the ceasefire,
> not the Israelies.

You are wrong. Totally, 100%, absolutely, WRONG.

From Ha'aretz Daily (the leading JEWISH Israeli newspaper):

"Much as Israel claims that the Palestinians are violating the truce and
regrouping in order to perpetrate savage acts of terror, its pleading
can't alter the facts: Up until Israel renewed its assassinations
campaign, there were no suicide bombings, and the two attacks last week
were direct responses to the Askar refugee camp slayings. It's no wonder
that Palestinian feelings of humiliation and frustration rose up. ... We
Israelis should confess to the disturbing truth: yet again there was hope
for change, and Israel's government and security system did nothing to
promote it. Instead, they sabotaged the prospects for peace."

- Ha'aretz Daily, August 17, 2003

Now explain to me how you, sitting in your Barc-A-Lounger, knows more
about the situation than the senior editors and writers at Ha'artez.

Write that explanation right here:

________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________


> Arrafat will talk about working with Israelis but
> when he gives a speech to Palestinians encourages them to suicide bomb
> and kill westerners and Jews alike.

No person born in the occupied territories for the past thirty-six years
have lived one day of his or her life in freedom. Think. About. That.

"MusicMax" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> No person born in the occupied territories for the past
> thirty-six years have lived one day of his or her life in freedom.

>Think. About. That.

Hey chump. No person living in ANY Arab country over the past mellenium has
lived their life in freedom either.

Think. About. That.

Hope that helps..........

h

"H" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:SS98b.420394$Ho3.66814@sccrnsc03:

>
> "MusicMax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>> No person born in the occupied territories for the past
>> thirty-six years have lived one day of his or her life in freedom.
>
>>Think. About. That.
>
> Hey chump.

More ad hominem in place of reasoned debate. Not surprising.

> No person living in ANY Arab country over the past mellenium has
> lived their life in freedom either.

That's "millennium", Einstein.

Is my news reader jacked up? I could've swore that this was a group about
4x4s. For one thing, I'm not sure where there is a group to talk(whine and
cry and fight) about this stuff
is but I'm sure there is one, and if we really wanted to read this stuff
we'd go there.
Second, what is fighting and arguing in an internet newsgroup going to
accomplish?
I'm sure you're not going to change his view and he's not going to change
yours. This
is supposed to be a place where we can talk about our COMMON love of 4x4.

This isn't directed at anyone specific(except maybe the dude who originally
posted this)
and I'm not trying to **** anyone off but, COME ON!!!!

Nate

"Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> I have been disgusted and angry as an American over the past few weeks as
I
> have watched with my own eyes as the so-called "liberal" media rewrote
history
> as it happened.
>
> For seven weeks members of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the
Alaqsa
> Martyers Brigades respected a requested ceasefire from Prime Minister Abu
> Abbas. During this time Israel complained again and again that they did
not
> want a ceasefire; they wanted Abu Abbas to arrest or kill the members of
these
> groups.
>
> Not once did any major media outlet in America that engages in analysis of
> events in the Mid East tell their readers of the strength of Hamas and the
> other groups, and how the Israeli demand would provoke the death of Abu
Abbas
> and possibly kick off a civil war among the Palestinians.
>
> The American people were never told this because that is Israel's goal, to
get
> the Palestinians to kill off their warrior class so that Israel will not
have
> to do it. Then Israel can increase their land grab for a number of years,
> turning their trailer "outposts" into condominiums (paid for by the
American
> taxpayer who is never told of this welfare benefit to wealthy Jews).
>
> Recently George Bush Jr., the appointed President, appointed a Jew Nazi to
the
> United States government's Mid East "peace" council (US Institute for
Peace).
>
> Daniel Pipes is so ethnocentric and rightwing that if he were not a Jew he
> would be classified as more "extremist" than David Duke. Because he is a
Jew
> though Daniel Pipes is given the kind of respect accorded heads of state
by
> the "American" media.
>
> The "American" media continue to describe Colin Powell as some kind of
> "liberal" when in fact he is a thoroughly rightwing military general who
has
> always advocated a military philosophy of "overwhelming force", which is a
> nice way of saying "don't go to war unless you can massacre the other side
> without taking casualties". If this is what qualifies as "liberal" then
it's
> not hard to understand why the political establishment in America has no
> problem with supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>
> It's also worth noting that Colin Powell speaks Yiddish.
>
> So Sunday has been yet another reevaluation of "where do we go from here?"
in
> the papers and on the Sunday morning news programs. In these reevaluations
the
> new history of the last few months does not include the seven week
ceasefire
> that was deliberately smashed by the Israelis. Instead the "road map" was
> destroyed by a bus bombing (the kind of bombing that always seems to occur
at
> just the right time as Israel is most upset with peace negotiations
actually
> progressing).
>
> How could the "American" media forget what just happened a few weeks ago?
> Well, they had to forget right? I mean the only other conclusion is that
the
> media in America is supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>
> That means that Peter Jennings is a genocidal murderer. As is Tom Brokaw,
Dan
> Rather, the Jewish Matt Lauer, and the Jewish Ted Koppel. Time Magazine,
> Newsweek, the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and
others
> are all complicit in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
>
> Just this week I was flipping through the channels and saw Alan Dershowitz
on
> the Today Show pushing a book in which he was ridiculing and slandering
those
> who defended the Palestinians from the sheer genocidal terror of Israel.
The
> same Alan Dershowitz who made an appearance on "60 Minutes" last year
> advocating that the "American" government engage in torture of prisoners.
>
> Is there any other media anywhere in the world -other than Israel- that
would
> welcome such a loathsome creature as Alan Dershowitz on their national
> television broadcasts?
>
> David Duke is clearly "to the left" of Alan Dershowitz and he was not
invited
> on the Today Show to push his book.
>
> So you see why the "American" media does not criticize the "American"
> government for not recognizing the World Court or the authority of the
United
> Nations. Clearly the most prominent members of the "American" media
understand
> that they could be legitimately indicted and convicted of war crimes.
>
> Such is the nature of forgetting about a seven week ceasefire just a few
weeks
> after Israel deliberately destroyed it, and the "road map", while the
building
> of new "settlements" continues.
>
>
>

"MusicMax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "H" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:SS98b.420394$Ho3.66814@sccrnsc03:
>
> >
> > "MusicMax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> >> No person born in the occupied territories for the past
> >> thirty-six years have lived one day of his or her life in freedom.
> >
> >>Think. About. That.
> >
> > Hey chump.
>
> More ad hominem in place of reasoned debate. Not surprising.
>
> > No person living in ANY Arab country over the past mellenium has
> > lived their life in freedom either.
>
> That's "millennium", Einstein.

And it also stands unrefuted, jerk.

h

Forgotten of course, was that Israel wasn't a part of the cease fire. That
was done without their consultation.


Stan Rosenthal, agnostic

"\"MIDIcian\" \(tm\)" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Forgotten of course, was that Israel wasn't a part of the cease fire.
> That was done without their consultation.

So typical of the pro-Israel side: being PROUD of abstention from a
cease fire.

Oops.


--
Ritchard Findlay
Toronto, CANADA
[email protected]
(remove "nospam." to reply)

"Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ritchard Findlay, someone's going to have a go at you for not trimmng your
> post...and posting at the top...
>
> Naughty, naughty...
>
> ))
> DAS
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> NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
> ---
>

I'll slap your wrist personally when I am in Toronto next (once or twice a
year...)


DAS
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"Ritchard Findlay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Oops.
>
>
> --
> Ritchard Findlay
> Toronto, CANADA
> [email protected]
> (remove "nospam." to reply)
................................

Literacy is not a requirement for participating here...

DAS
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"MusicMax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
........................................

>
> That's "millennium", Einstein.

Go to the blackboard and write 100 times: I shouldn't respond to
asssholes; just ignore them and hope they go away. I shouldn't respond
to asssholes; just ignore them and hope they go away. I shouldn't
respond to asssholes; just ignore them and hope they go away.... Oh,
the hell with it because On 11 Sep 2003 01:38:36 +0200,
[email protected]er (a fool among fools) wrote:

>Israel is sucking over $12 billion a year out of America in taxpayer dollars,

A pittance compared to the taxpayer cash that is flowing and will
continue to flow to the iraq fiasco (and haliburton). What ever else
you have to say, the $$$ cost is trivial compared to the rest of the
bushmen's theft of american resources.

At least israel is a civil society.

mandycan <mandycan> wrote in
news:[email protected]:


> At least israel is a civil society.

Not according to its own government:

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030901.warab0901/BNStory
/International