So my new swivel seal sits into the housing but its quite loose, around 1mm between seal and edge of the seal recess in the housing, I cant ever remember them being like this, is this normal? The gasket and retaining plate should crush the seal a little, does this spread the seal?
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should be proud a little and compressed by the retainer, but it wont alter the diameter
it wont be a tight fit in the housing as ball needs to center it
it wont be a tight fit in the housing as ball needs to center it
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measure it against the old one, but they arent a tight fit like you get with a shaft and seal you normally see,they dont need any sealant or a real good fit as gasket and retainer seal the outer part of the seal
I will check the book , I think it says to put sealant on the gasket, the old one didn't leak so I am sure it will be fine.
It looks like by bearings were pretty battered looking at the state of the races.
The retaining ring on the new CV doesn't look right, I know they arnt supposed to be perfectly round but the new one seems bent at both ends... I might try a cable tie to keep it compressed.
See, this is the problem with OEM and genuine parts, if I fitted crap pattern parts I would be doing this every year and it would be second nature by now!
It looks like by bearings were pretty battered looking at the state of the races.
The retaining ring on the new CV doesn't look right, I know they arnt supposed to be perfectly round but the new one seems bent at both ends... I might try a cable tie to keep it compressed.
See, this is the problem with OEM and genuine parts, if I fitted crap pattern parts I would be doing this every year and it would be second nature by now!
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thats a poorly made or damaged snap ring ,often with non current parts ,genuine is just another pattern part, bearing races show signs of been stood ,in a housing that has water present
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i would after a clean, the new one might be more mild steel than spring steel , ive noticed a lot of modern grease seems not to leave a water proof film and so contact marks , the tractor im restoring has been stood out for over 20 years and is like it has never been stood not a sign of rust anywhere
I used the old one, went in a treat, didn't need compressing but a good tug and its staying in there.
Putting it back together has been halted, I didn't order the seal for the back of the swivel, the one that seals the half shaft and stops ep90 from entering the cv housing! Instead I ordered the stub axle seal, I don't have the proper slide hammer tool and thus I cant remove the bronze bush so I wasn't going to change this seal.
Any easy way to remove the bush that you know of? I cant drift it out because the stub axle is too long to get a decent contact from behind.
Putting it back together has been halted, I didn't order the seal for the back of the swivel, the one that seals the half shaft and stops ep90 from entering the cv housing! Instead I ordered the stub axle seal, I don't have the proper slide hammer tool and thus I cant remove the bronze bush so I wasn't going to change this seal.
Any easy way to remove the bush that you know of? I cant drift it out because the stub axle is too long to get a decent contact from behind.
Right then, I went to Land Rover yesterday, picked up the seal , came home and its the wrong one. I came home with the seal for the back of the hub!
How can I get that wrong twice?
I went to my parts book, that page is missing!
So I went to my workshop manual (genuine LR , not Haynes) and there is no mention of a seal at the back of the swivel bearing housing, there was one in there when I pulled it apart, there is a groove machined into the housing for a seal, the last time I did this around a million years ago I must have fitted this seal, whats going on?
Both my books are for a 1985 vehicle so quite old, did they not put these seals on older vehicles where ep90 lubricates the CV? Surely the final drive oil level and the CV oil levels should be kept separated or oil will drain from the CV into the axle?
Does anyone have an exploded diagram of the swivel bearing housing to axle? Or a part number for this troublesome seal?
Do I even need the damn thing? I will be using one shot grease in the swivel bearing housing.
How can I get that wrong twice?
I went to my parts book, that page is missing!
So I went to my workshop manual (genuine LR , not Haynes) and there is no mention of a seal at the back of the swivel bearing housing, there was one in there when I pulled it apart, there is a groove machined into the housing for a seal, the last time I did this around a million years ago I must have fitted this seal, whats going on?
Both my books are for a 1985 vehicle so quite old, did they not put these seals on older vehicles where ep90 lubricates the CV? Surely the final drive oil level and the CV oil levels should be kept separated or oil will drain from the CV into the axle?
Does anyone have an exploded diagram of the swivel bearing housing to axle? Or a part number for this troublesome seal?
Do I even need the damn thing? I will be using one shot grease in the swivel bearing housing.
Found it , FTC3276, DISC BRAKES REAR, or
571718 DRUM BRAKES REAR,
I take it one is an oil seal and the other grease?
http://www.roverparts.com.au/swivel_pin_bearing_housing___defender
Mine has disc brakes rear but originally came with drums, but the front axle isn't original either.
, Both these seals are listed as oil seals!
571718 DRUM BRAKES REAR,
I take it one is an oil seal and the other grease?
http://www.roverparts.com.au/swivel_pin_bearing_housing___defender
Mine has disc brakes rear but originally came with drums, but the front axle isn't original either.
, Both these seals are listed as oil seals!
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