starting problem with 87 bronco,part 3

Hi, thanks for the help. Ok, that booster trick worked, hooking the
postive battery post to the starter side of selanoid made the starter
spin, I just touched it for a sec, the starter did spin, but the engine
didn't turn over at all, weird, I put the starter in tight and it fit
right, don't know why that is doing that. I told the guy at shucks I
thought I had the wrong selanoid, he said there was basically only one
kind of ford selanoid. He said to put the small wire on the small "s"
post, to the other small post, I did this, nothing. Then he said to put a
small wire from the postive battery post to the small "s" post on the
selanoid. I did this, nothing. I checked all the fuses in the fusebox,
they were all good. So does it sound like the selanoid is the wrong one?
That seems to be where the problem is. I thought about going to the ford
dealer to get the right one, if that would help. Also, thought it was
weird the starter spins but the engine doesn't turn over when I put the
postive battery post with a booster to the starter side of selanoid. I
tried all this with the truck in neutral also. same results.

The starter spun but didnt engage the engine because the selonoid didn't
engage. The selonoid pops the driven gear in the starter out to the
flywheel/flexplate to spin the engine over. Try hooking a positive booster
cable from the battery to the + terminal of the selonoid before hooking the
a booster cable from the + on the battery to the + on the starter. Be SURE
the truck is in park.

Carl

"nkbronco" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi, thanks for the help. Ok, that booster trick worked, hooking the
> postive battery post to the starter side of selanoid made the starter
> spin, I just touched it for a sec, the starter did spin, but the engine
> didn't turn over at all, weird, I put the starter in tight and it fit
> right, don't know why that is doing that. I told the guy at shucks I
> thought I had the wrong selanoid, he said there was basically only one
> kind of ford selanoid. He said to put the small wire on the small "s"
> post, to the other small post, I did this, nothing. Then he said to put a
> small wire from the postive battery post to the small "s" post on the
> selanoid. I did this, nothing. I checked all the fuses in the fusebox,
> they were all good. So does it sound like the selanoid is the wrong one?
> That seems to be where the problem is. I thought about going to the ford
> dealer to get the right one, if that would help. Also, thought it was
> weird the starter spins but the engine doesn't turn over when I put the
> postive battery post with a booster to the starter side of selanoid. I
> tried all this with the truck in neutral also. same results.
>

If it's the wrong solenoid, the pinion may not be actuated properly or at
all and causing it not to mesh with the flywheel (at least, that's how it
works with GM starters).

"Carl Saiyed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The starter spun but didnt engage the engine because the selonoid didn't
> engage. The selonoid pops the driven gear in the starter out to the
> flywheel/flexplate to spin the engine over. Try hooking a positive booster
> cable from the battery to the + terminal of the selonoid before hooking
the
> a booster cable from the + on the battery to the + on the starter. Be SURE
> the truck is in park.
>
> Carl
>
> "nkbronco" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi, thanks for the help. Ok, that booster trick worked, hooking the
> > postive battery post to the starter side of selanoid made the starter
> > spin, I just touched it for a sec, the starter did spin, but the engine
> > didn't turn over at all, weird, I put the starter in tight and it fit
> > right, don't know why that is doing that. I told the guy at shucks I
> > thought I had the wrong selanoid, he said there was basically only one
> > kind of ford selanoid. He said to put the small wire on the small "s"
> > post, to the other small post, I did this, nothing. Then he said to put
a
> > small wire from the postive battery post to the small "s" post on the
> > selanoid. I did this, nothing. I checked all the fuses in the fusebox,
> > they were all good. So does it sound like the selanoid is the wrong
one?
> > That seems to be where the problem is. I thought about going to the
ford
> > dealer to get the right one, if that would help. Also, thought it was
> > weird the starter spins but the engine doesn't turn over when I put the
> > postive battery post with a booster to the starter side of selanoid. I
> > tried all this with the truck in neutral also. same results.
> >
>
>

If the key was turned to run, the engine 'will' start unless something
else not related is dead when you jump the solenoid with a booster
cable. My friend ran himself down with his Mustang doing that. It was
in gear.

Now we know for sure you either have a bad solenoid or the positive
battery connection between the solenoid and the battery is bad or dirty
like crap.

You confirmed this with the battery wire to the S terminal and no spin.

You are now saying that the starter just spun without catching the
engine?????

That sounds like the wrong starter or a bad starter also. They can come
from the rebuilder bad.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nkbronco wrote:
>
> Hi, thanks for the help. Ok, that booster trick worked, hooking the
> postive battery post to the starter side of selanoid made the starter
> spin, I just touched it for a sec, the starter did spin, but the engine
> didn't turn over at all, weird, I put the starter in tight and it fit
> right, don't know why that is doing that. I told the guy at shucks I
> thought I had the wrong selanoid, he said there was basically only one
> kind of ford selanoid. He said to put the small wire on the small "s"
> post, to the other small post, I did this, nothing. Then he said to put a
> small wire from the postive battery post to the small "s" post on the
> selanoid. I did this, nothing. I checked all the fuses in the fusebox,
> they were all good. So does it sound like the selanoid is the wrong one?
> That seems to be where the problem is. I thought about going to the ford
> dealer to get the right one, if that would help. Also, thought it was
> weird the starter spins but the engine doesn't turn over when I put the
> postive battery post with a booster to the starter side of selanoid. I
> tried all this with the truck in neutral also. same results.