starter motor

on removing the starter motor (or part of it) using the really long bolts, the componant that spins with the bushes/brushes has come out, and i cant seem to get it back in without pushing the bushes in but i cant push them in at the same time as puting the spinning thing in.

I hpoep this makes sence and that someone know what i mean.

Any help much appriciated

LR has used several slightly differing types of starter over recent years but here is some general advice regards holding back the brushes in their slide holders on most types.

I am assuming that the brushes are free to move and not seized up.

Most end plate designs have a holes near each brush location that will allow you to slip a piece of wire, solder core, safety-pin, toothpick or similar in and over the brushes to hold back the springs untill the end plate/brush assembly is replaced over the commutator and the long assembly bolts are in place.

You then just pull out the pins and release the springs to push the brushes into contact with the rotor/commutator.

Perhaps some auto-electrician will know a better way - but this has always worked for me.

Some modern Japanese starters don't seem to have these holes nowadays - perhaps this is to encourage us to buy recon units.

Good luck.

thanks for the reply,
im suprised you knew what i was talking about becuase looking back at my own writing i couldnt understand it lol.

good reply aswell very helpful thank you.
unfortunatly i didnt have the 4 little holes to poke someting into so i will have to find another way around it.

Sorry that didn't do the trick.

I mentioned this to my crazy - sorry, lateral thinking, - mechanical engineering cousin, who says he has tied them back with cotton thread and then released them after fitting the shaft.

I'm surprised that no-one else is giving us the benefit of their wisdom.

There must be a clever way of doing this e.g. at the factory, where they will take about 5 seconds to do it!!!

Can't you just pull them back using the electrical cable attached to them?

yes, ive had to remove the end plate and i have used straightned out paper clips to hold them back, by the time i did this fiddly job it was cold and dark so will continue tommorrow, at first i thought i buggered the whole thing and im hoping it will still be working.
I was never ment to take it out, i was changing the oil cooler and had to remove this part of the starter motor to get to one of the torx screws, while doing this the spinning thing slipped out from the bushes housing and couldnt get them back on with out remove the end plate got myself into a right kafuffle.
so hopefully will get this all sorted in the morning and then next job thermostat, should be fun.