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Grrrrrr
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Not seen him in a while. Rumour has it he's in deepest Dorset where he's started his own tribe.
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Hi, Sorry for the tardy reply and thanks for the wonderful comments eluding to my knowledge - although I am not sure I am THAT much of a guru, just a battle-hardened L322 Vet.....
That said - whats the issue and I *may* be able to help!
Yep, still in Dorset and the tribe are well - missing the excitement of Green Oval Ownership I hasten to add, but life is too expensive for that level of involvement!
Trust you and yours are well.
Datatek
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Good to hear from you @Saint.V8 , guessed you must have got a reliable car now you have a family to care for. Happy New Year and keep well.
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As if by magic!!
An l322 warrior!!
Nice to read of you big guy.
An l322 warrior!!
Nice to read of you big guy.
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Grrrrrr
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Even the Freelander has gone? Nooooo.
My next car will be Jap. And small. Once I have fixed all the issues on this LR so I can sell it ...
Bob_In_Spain
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Hi ‘Saint’ and thanks for responding……I’ll keep this as short and sweet as possible!
TD6 2003 HSE.
Air suspension issue…..in the course of sorting this out since I’ve bought it I have,
Replaced a weak compressor,
Replaced all four height sensors,
Taken off and cleaned all of the block valves ncluding blowing all air lines through, stripping and cleaning valves and checking electric solenoids, all good.
Replaced battery on the vehicle ( first thing I did).
I use an Autel 808 BT scanner which is great for all my needs on this and other motors I have.
I’ve recalibrated the suspension (twice) to be sure and it works perfectly………except!
When I switch from standard height to access mode the rear drops like a stone……but the front axle takes forever, gets halfway down then starts to rise again. If I hold the dash button in the access position it will go down, come up then eventually creep down to where it should be and the dash light shows access height. When I select back to standard or off road height it rises on both axles quickly, evenly and steadily. No fault codes coming up, sensors (voltages) seem to be as they should be and compressor is running up to 11.7 bar and venting through the exhaust port as you’d expect. I have tried EVERTYTHING to get to the bottom of this and just can’t seem to crack it……any ideas please?? Thanks in anticipation.
TD6 2003 HSE.
Air suspension issue…..in the course of sorting this out since I’ve bought it I have,
Replaced a weak compressor,
Replaced all four height sensors,
Taken off and cleaned all of the block valves ncluding blowing all air lines through, stripping and cleaning valves and checking electric solenoids, all good.
Replaced battery on the vehicle ( first thing I did).
I use an Autel 808 BT scanner which is great for all my needs on this and other motors I have.
I’ve recalibrated the suspension (twice) to be sure and it works perfectly………except!
When I switch from standard height to access mode the rear drops like a stone……but the front axle takes forever, gets halfway down then starts to rise again. If I hold the dash button in the access position it will go down, come up then eventually creep down to where it should be and the dash light shows access height. When I select back to standard or off road height it rises on both axles quickly, evenly and steadily. No fault codes coming up, sensors (voltages) seem to be as they should be and compressor is running up to 11.7 bar and venting through the exhaust port as you’d expect. I have tried EVERTYTHING to get to the bottom of this and just can’t seem to crack it……any ideas please?? Thanks in anticipation.
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Good new year cheer to yourself too Keith, As reliable as Diesel Jag X types can be yes! I hope all is well with yourself and work on your property in France is keeping you well out of mischief!
What Ho Fella, That gif did make me chuckle, I am more this guy to be honest:
Yeah, even the Freelanders (both of them) have now gone too.....s much as I would love another Green Oval (or two...or three...) to be on the drive costs are prohibitive at present! I do still dream!
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I have to admit, you have done a very comprehensive bunch of work, more than most would have attempted to try and correct the fault and keep the system in fine fettle, so little else I could add aside from...the only thing that I would next consider is a crack in the valve block causing pressure to leak from the rear as it is dropping into the front keeping it raised and then when the rear has dropped, this allows the front to follow.
Admittedly, this is a 'clutching at straws' answer as everything else you have done and checked appears to be correct and in spec.
Unlike the P38, the L322 doesn't do 'Lower front, then Rear' or when raising 'Raise Rear, then Front' to prevent dazzling others with a 'rear low, nose high' issue should it occur that the front takes longer to lower, as the L322 has auto-adjusting headlights whereas the P38 relied on the EAS to keep the headlamps levelled so as not to dazzle others! So, when the L322 gets the signal to lower, it opens all 4 valves to lower the car simultaneously.
If there are hairline cracks in the valve block leaking pressure to where it shouldn't be, then there is a possibility of the system not lowering or moving as expected - not sure why holding the switch in the access position helps, that is an odd one I admit.
When raising - as the pressure from the tank is going in the opposite direction, the cracks in the block will make little difference as it is there to fill and not vent and as such the system would appear to work normally...if that makes sense.
The Pneumatic diagram in RAVE doesn't show the exact routing through the valve block so it cannot be determined if cracks in the block will do as I suggest above as I don't know how the galleries are routed and if cracks would indeed cause this to happen, but the valve blocks have been known to crack and fail causing a multitude of issues that are otherwise dumbfounding., and from what you have already done, is the final piece in the puzzle if, as you say, have checked everything else.
The system is simple in operation and layout, and the only part left unchecked in your list is pressure testing the valve block or replacing with a known good one.
As I said above, this is very much a clutching at straws answer as you have done pretty much everything else. Can I also assume you have had the EAS ECU out and checked it for water damage or corrosion of the connections and plugs, as this is also a known issue!
Keep us updated on further findings, and I hope the above can assist in some way.
Good luck, Ant
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Thanks Ant, I’ll take a look as soon as I’m back from holiday in a couple of weeks…….i did think myself about it being perhaps an o ring in the valve blocks, but they all looked perfect when I stripped them down……but it never crossed my mind about a cracked unit…..excellent!
Yes, I’ve had the EAS ECU off and checked it over. Again it all looked perfect but I gave it a good spray with contact cleaner before refitting, just to be sure. I’ll order up a centre valve block and let you know how it goes….thanks again, much appreciated.
Yes, I’ve had the EAS ECU off and checked it over. Again it all looked perfect but I gave it a good spray with contact cleaner before refitting, just to be sure. I’ll order up a centre valve block and let you know how it goes….thanks again, much appreciated.
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Hi Ant, pleased hear all is well, LZ has lost a valuable resource to the benefit I'm sure of your family
Enjoy the kids while they are young, they grow up all to quickly. I finished renovating my 400 year old ruin during the Covid lockdown. Now, when my aged body permits, I'm on to enhancements. Conservatory and a DIY solar panel installation last year when it wasn't raining.
