Rubbed up and noisey.

ShaunC · Jan 20, 2013

Hi all,

back in November I had a slight incident involving losing a nearside rear wheel. Photo's of the event are here: http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f8/fun-disaster-lesson-lernt-206375.html

I have not used the Disco much since then, maybe 3-4 times and only about 2-3 miles a 'session'. There is a 'rubbing' noise from the offending wheel which sounds like something rubbing on the brake disc. I thought it was initially the mud shield as this was folded around the bottom of the disc from the impact. I have since been at it and bent it out of the way but the rubbing noise persists.

My thinking is that it maybe still rubbing as with the wheel off and turning the disc by hand I can hear it rubbing but cannot see where. The thing is the rubbing gets louder upon braking so maybe the disc is bent? But when turning right the noise stops. I assume the shifting of weight is moving the disc away from the shield more.

The pads are needing to be changed and I have a plan in place to do this coming week, while I have the bits in pieces what things should I be looking at regarding the noise.

GreenHornet · Jan 20, 2013

If the pads are close to the limit then they can make noises. Have you checked your wheel bearing?

ShaunC · Jan 20, 2013

When I got it 6 months ago the bearing were fine. I have not directly checked them since but when I re-fitted the wheel I did check for play in the 'general' area and it appeared ok. I will add that as a check to my list. Thanks

blackhadder · Jan 20, 2013

I would check all the bearings, and probably get a couple of new discs in. Could also be the hub rubbing on the stub axle.

The Mad Hat Man · Jan 20, 2013

have the pads worn thru the caliper?

ShaunC · Jan 20, 2013

The Mad Hat Man said:
have the pads worn thru the caliper?

I am pretty sure they have not, I can see about 1-2mm on the pad looking at it from the top between the caliper, I suppose it could have at the bottom. Are there any other symptoms for that aside from rubbing?

The Mad Hat Man · Jan 20, 2013

ShaunC said:
I am pretty sure they have not, I can see about 1-2mm on the pad looking at it from the top between the caliper, I suppose it could have at the bottom. Are there any other symptoms for that aside from rubbing?

yes - a groove in the hub..... until it seperates

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blackhadder · Jan 20, 2013

Just a thought. I've had it where the rear brake pads actually drop down from the calipers, and start to wear a groove in the brake disc. Causes a metallic rubbing noise, and is caused by the calipers being worn out, and pads being too worn. 1-2mm is not much on a pad

blackhadder · Jan 20, 2013

Mad hat man. Great minds...........

DiscoPol · Jan 20, 2013

ShaunC said:
I am pretty sure they have not, I can see about 1-2mm on the pad looking at it from the top between the caliper, I suppose it could have at the bottom. Are there any other symptoms for that aside from rubbing?

my disco eats pads at an alarming rate but then i play in an old sand pit most weekends so its not a surprise but i wouldnt expect 1-2mm to last very long and if that is showing at the top of the pad it could easily be bare metal at the bottom of the pad, get em changed out first then look for where its rubbing.

Paul D · Jan 20, 2013

1 -2 mm .. jeez man, that is nothing. Until they're changed don't drive it ..

This is how much you should have, these are about 8k miles old ...

ShaunC · Jan 20, 2013

blackhadder said:
Just a thought. I've had it where the rear brake pads actually drop down from the calipers, and start to wear a groove in the brake disc. Causes a metallic rubbing noise, and is caused by the calipers being worn out, and pads being too worn. 1-2mm is not much on a pad

The calipers could quite easily be worn out, I have no paperwork to say they have had any attention and my last session out (when the incident happened) the were totally caked in mud and ****e. I cannot say I have noticed any particular breaking degradation.

The preliminary inspections I made showed no obvious grooves or any metal filings I could see.

So could it be just a coincidence that the rubbing seems to be after losing a wheel?

ShaunC · Jan 20, 2013

Paul D said:
1 -2 mm .. jeez man, that is nothing. Until they're changed don't drive it ..

This is how much you should have, these are about 8k miles old ...

I see your point! I have no plans to use it anytime soon at this time.

DiscoPol · Jan 20, 2013

Paul D said:
1 -2 mm .. jeez man, that is nothing. Until they're changed don't drive it ..

This is how much you should have, these are about 8k miles old ...

dont drive it, lol

i changed out a single pad today for an old one that still had about 3 mm on it, it will do until i can get to the parts place tomorrow, it will stop the wife moaning about the noise

Paul my pads(front and back) last about 3 months tops, thats about 8 weekends playing and no daily driving, when the wife is using it to get to and from work they last about 8 weeks from full fat to bare metal.

maybe time for me to do a full overhaul on the calipers and new discs, oh yeah and remember to wash it when i finish playing

Paul D · Jan 20, 2013

LOL, I drive a lot more conservatively on-road than I ever used to, I hardly ever brake, preferring anticipation and observation to footwork .. but anyone who's been out with me knows I do OK off-road, I wade, drive mud, do whatever .. what can I say? I do generally wash out the brake areas when I get home. Pads generally last me about 20k miles .. and I just buy Paddocks finest ..

ShaunC · Jan 20, 2013

New pads are sitting on my desk waiting for next weekend, I have been pondering replacing the hoses as well, not because they need doing but while I am there I could replace them with braided hoses.

Paul D · Jan 20, 2013

A tip, bearing in mind the condition of your brakes (not a dig!) .. make sure you can undo the caliper bleed nipples before you try to do anything with the hoses.

DAMHIKIJDOK .....

ShaunC · Jan 20, 2013

Paul D said:
A tip, bearing in mind the condition of your brakes (not a dig!) .. make sure you can undo the caliper bleed nipples before you try to do anything with the hoses.

DAMHIKIJDOK .....

Good point!

3.5 efi · Jan 20, 2013

DiscoPol said:
dont drive it, lol

i changed out a single pad today for an old one that still had about 3 mm on it, it will do until i can get to the parts place tomorrow, it will stop the wife moaning about the noise

Paul my pads(front and back) last about 3 months tops, thats about 8 weekends playing and no daily driving, when the wife is using it to get to and from work they last about 8 weeks from full fat to bare metal.

maybe time for me to do a full overhaul on the calipers and new discs, oh yeah and remember to wash it when i finish playing

tis the mud, just like a cutting paste. back pads on a bike used to last about 3 weekends,

ShaunC · Jan 20, 2013

3.5 efi said:
tis the mud, just like a cutting paste. back pads on a bike used to last about 3 weekends,

Are there no 'off road' brake pad upgrades possible for a Land Rover?

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