Rear brakes TD4

Philgt50 · 2024-10-27T17:00:33+0000

Hello all, can anyone tell me if the rear drums on my 2006 FL1 TD4 3 door are a different size or anything to the 5door.
Last time I bought shoes I don’t remember there being any difference but that was a while ago. But I ordered some drums that were supposed to fit and found out today that they didn’t.
If anyone knows the part numbers that would be really helpful too.
Or even a good place to order drums, shoes and springs from.
Still having issues with handbrake and need to change things to get it working I think. Thanks

GrumpyGel · 2024-10-27T17:46:20+0000

I think you will find they are different to the 5 door built before 2000, and the 3 door.

Same as a 5 door built 2000+ though.

Philgt50 · 2024-10-27T17:56:31+0000

GrumpyGel said:
I think you will find they are different to the 5 door built before 2000, and the 3 door.

Same as a 5 door built 2000+ though.

Well that’s what I thought but I am confusing myself looking through adverts on EBay that keep telling me that the bits won’t fit!
I am sure I had no problems with the brake shoes

andyfreelandy · 2024-10-27T18:38:29+0000

The ebay compatability guidance is quite random.

Especially brakes. I have had sets of pre 2000 disc pads arrive when I ordered post 2000. Many suppliers think all FL1s are the same. Easiest to do you own research and buy what you think.

GG is right about any difference being 2000 based year difference. Easy to identify as ABS sensors are different. Pre 2000 are round and post 2000 are rectangular with a fixing bolt.

The problem with handbrake on the FL1 is that the rear brakes don't work too hard and so the drums and linings get glazed.

Busting the glaze helps but new shoes and drums with correct lubrication on the shoe sliders usually sorts a duff handbrake.

Be sure to completely slacken the adjuster under the arm rest in the car. Then do the brake applications to get the auto adjusters to remove shoe to drum clearance, assuming they work, if not intervene with a screwdriver on the ratchets or replace the adjusters and the mechanism.

Then adjust handbrake cable under arm rest to just rub brakes when on 1 click of handbrake. Ensure it frees when released and good to go !!

Philgt50 · 2024-10-27T19:47:34+0000

andyfreelandy said:
The ebay compatability guidance is quite random.

Especially brakes. I have had sets of pre 2000 disc pads arrive when I ordered post 2000. Many suppliers think all FL1s are the same. Easiest to do you own research and buy what you think.

GG is right about any difference being 2000 based year difference. Easy to identify as ABS sensors are different. Pre 2000 are round and post 2000 are rectangular with a fixing bolt.

The problem with handbrake on the FL1 is that the rear brakes don't work too hard and so the drums and linings get glazed.

Busting the glaze helps but new shoes and drums with correct lubrication on the shoe sliders usually sorts a duff handbrake.

Be sure to completely slacken the adjuster under the arm rest in the car. Then do the brake applications to get the auto adjusters to remove shoe to drum clearance, assuming they work, if not intervene with a screwdriver on the ratchets or replace the adjusters and the mechanism.

Then adjust handbrake cable under arm rest to just rub brakes when on 1 click of handbrake. Ensure it frees when released and good to go !!

Nice one thanks a lot. So if I was to intervene, because I strongly suspect the auto adjuster doesn’t work, i slacken off handbrake adjuster under arm rest, then I turn ratchet to get shoes just rubbing, then adjust handbrake cable?
I think I will get the garage to retest the handbrake but if they still aren’t happy I am going to get new drums and shoes and strip and clean it all. I think the plus side is that it’s a pretty straightforward mechanism so I will get there in the end but I am strapped for time at the moment and also don’t want to spend anything more than I have to on it.
I also have the option of using my wife’s Peugeot if my hippo is out of action but, well, it’s a Peugeot.

Stance · 2024-10-28T06:27:30+0000

I've been there too with the handbrake...

What I have learned is that it's critical that:

The contact points are clean & lubed lightly, so that shoes move easily against them.

The handbrake adjuster moves freely. This one seems to seize up every year for me. The nordic winter probably doesn't help with this. But I have to disassemble back brakes annually to keep them in working condition.

Shoes are adjusted to slightly rub with the drum as Andy described. If they are too far away from the drum the handbrake will be weak. I don't think the auto adjuster keeps the shoes as close as you can get them by manually adjusting. I even replaced the auto adjusters recently with new parts.

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