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Dan Dunphy
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Are you sure it should have GL-4? The T-5 in my 77 Sunbird called for
ATF.
Dan
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:56:07 -0500, Mike Romain <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Yup, a tranny is a gear box.
>
>My T5 on my Jeep got 'GL4-GL5' in it by mistake and it started shifting
>bad. The syncros were not spinning correctly.
>
>I removed the combo stuff and put straight GL4 in and the shifting went
>back smooth.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Herve Regad-Pellagru wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> There seems indeed to remain no doubt ...
>>
>> Just to be sure, tranny stands for gear box, no ? Sorry, it seems to
>> be a 100% american word
>>
>> >>>>> "Jumpin'" == Jumpin' Jiminy <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>> Jumpin'> I don't know about the lead, but I do know that the GL5
>> Jumpin'> sulphur additives will attack and corrode the yellow
>> Jumpin'> metal components of your tranny such as synchros and
>> Jumpin'> bushings. This is a well known fact.
>>
>> Jumpin'> http://groups.google.com/groups?&q=GL5+OR+GL-5+"yellow+metal"
>>
>> Jumpin'> I've also read that the slipperier oil will prevent your
>> Jumpin'> synchros from getting up to speed fast enough and thus
>> Jumpin'> cause rougher shifting.
>>
>> Jumpin'> Apparently not all brands of GL5 will do this but I
>> Jumpin'> wasn't ready to bet my tranny on it.
>>
>> Jumpin'> What about using Motor-oil in your tranny? (Gear oil
>> Jumpin'> viscosity is measured at 150 F vs. 210 F for motor
>> Jumpin'> oil. Thus 40 W motor oil is the same as 95 W gear oil.
>>
>> Jumpin'> http://www.vtr.org/maintain/lubricants-redline.html
>>
>> Jumpin'> JJ
>>
>> Jumpin'> On 01 Mar 2003 17:56:04 +0100, Herve Regad-Pellagru
>> Jumpin'> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I just contacted some guys here to buy a big (>50 L) barrel of
>> >> GL5 80W90 to use as transmission fluid for a Toy KZJ90 (also
>> >> known in US and Australia as Prado Land Cruiser) and a BJ42 as
>> >> well.
>> >>
>> >> The guys pretty scared me, telling basically, that by putting
>> >> this in both gear/transfer box and diffs, you can destroy the
>> >> spi joints between transfert and gear box, and, in any case, I
>> >> should go to Toyota to get "real gear/transfert oil" ! He
>> >> wasn't specific on this, as usually, mecs are not chemist ...
>> >>
>> >> Needless to say, Toyota dealers, in deserted part of France,
>> >> reduce you to mendicity, if you make the mistake of buying them
>> >> oil (price x 3), and I would prefer another solution ! On top
>> >> of that, it's difficult here to find some transmission oil, so
>> >> the need for a barrel.
>> >>
>> >> Searching around (a french site,
>> >> http://lubrifiants.maxximum.org/), it seems that API GL5 oils
>> >> will dissolve lead, due to additives used to raise the oil at
>> >> "extreme pression", and thus, cause a jolly nice mess if the
>> >> gear/transfert box contains lead. That may be what the guys was
>> >> refering to.
>> >>
>> >> So, my question is, does someone confirm this, or has had some
>> >> experience with this effect ? Anyone having tried GL5 in BJ42
>> >> gear or T box ? Any dammage ? The tech docs claim GL4 oil.
>> >>
>> >> Fortunately, the KXJ90 is safe, according to the user
>> >> manual. Good, I just filled up every part of it with GL 5 last
>> >> week !
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Herve Regad-Pellagru
>> >>
>> >> IBM: /I-B-M/ Inferior But Marketable; It's Better Manually;
>> >> Insidious Black Magic; It's Been Malfunctioning; Incontinent
>> >> Bowel Movement; and a near-infinite number of even less
>> >> complimentary expansions, including `International Business
>> >> Machines'.
>>
>> Herve Regad-Pellagru
>>
>> bug-compatible: adj. Said of a design or revision that has been badly
>> compromised by a requirement to be compatible with fossils or
>> misfeatures in other programs or (esp.) previous releases of
>> itself. "MS-DOS 2.0 used \ as a path separator to be bug-compatible
>> with some cretin's choice of / as an option character in 1.0."
Colorado Springs, CO
My advice may be worth what you paid for it.
ATF.
Dan
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:56:07 -0500, Mike Romain <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Yup, a tranny is a gear box.
>
>My T5 on my Jeep got 'GL4-GL5' in it by mistake and it started shifting
>bad. The syncros were not spinning correctly.
>
>I removed the combo stuff and put straight GL4 in and the shifting went
>back smooth.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Herve Regad-Pellagru wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> There seems indeed to remain no doubt ...
>>
>> Just to be sure, tranny stands for gear box, no ? Sorry, it seems to
>> be a 100% american word
>>
>> >>>>> "Jumpin'" == Jumpin' Jiminy <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>> Jumpin'> I don't know about the lead, but I do know that the GL5
>> Jumpin'> sulphur additives will attack and corrode the yellow
>> Jumpin'> metal components of your tranny such as synchros and
>> Jumpin'> bushings. This is a well known fact.
>>
>> Jumpin'> http://groups.google.com/groups?&q=GL5+OR+GL-5+"yellow+metal"
>>
>> Jumpin'> I've also read that the slipperier oil will prevent your
>> Jumpin'> synchros from getting up to speed fast enough and thus
>> Jumpin'> cause rougher shifting.
>>
>> Jumpin'> Apparently not all brands of GL5 will do this but I
>> Jumpin'> wasn't ready to bet my tranny on it.
>>
>> Jumpin'> What about using Motor-oil in your tranny? (Gear oil
>> Jumpin'> viscosity is measured at 150 F vs. 210 F for motor
>> Jumpin'> oil. Thus 40 W motor oil is the same as 95 W gear oil.
>>
>> Jumpin'> http://www.vtr.org/maintain/lubricants-redline.html
>>
>> Jumpin'> JJ
>>
>> Jumpin'> On 01 Mar 2003 17:56:04 +0100, Herve Regad-Pellagru
>> Jumpin'> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I just contacted some guys here to buy a big (>50 L) barrel of
>> >> GL5 80W90 to use as transmission fluid for a Toy KZJ90 (also
>> >> known in US and Australia as Prado Land Cruiser) and a BJ42 as
>> >> well.
>> >>
>> >> The guys pretty scared me, telling basically, that by putting
>> >> this in both gear/transfer box and diffs, you can destroy the
>> >> spi joints between transfert and gear box, and, in any case, I
>> >> should go to Toyota to get "real gear/transfert oil" ! He
>> >> wasn't specific on this, as usually, mecs are not chemist ...
>> >>
>> >> Needless to say, Toyota dealers, in deserted part of France,
>> >> reduce you to mendicity, if you make the mistake of buying them
>> >> oil (price x 3), and I would prefer another solution ! On top
>> >> of that, it's difficult here to find some transmission oil, so
>> >> the need for a barrel.
>> >>
>> >> Searching around (a french site,
>> >> http://lubrifiants.maxximum.org/), it seems that API GL5 oils
>> >> will dissolve lead, due to additives used to raise the oil at
>> >> "extreme pression", and thus, cause a jolly nice mess if the
>> >> gear/transfert box contains lead. That may be what the guys was
>> >> refering to.
>> >>
>> >> So, my question is, does someone confirm this, or has had some
>> >> experience with this effect ? Anyone having tried GL5 in BJ42
>> >> gear or T box ? Any dammage ? The tech docs claim GL4 oil.
>> >>
>> >> Fortunately, the KXJ90 is safe, according to the user
>> >> manual. Good, I just filled up every part of it with GL 5 last
>> >> week !
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Herve Regad-Pellagru
>> >>
>> >> IBM: /I-B-M/ Inferior But Marketable; It's Better Manually;
>> >> Insidious Black Magic; It's Been Malfunctioning; Incontinent
>> >> Bowel Movement; and a near-infinite number of even less
>> >> complimentary expansions, including `International Business
>> >> Machines'.
>>
>> Herve Regad-Pellagru
>>
>> bug-compatible: adj. Said of a design or revision that has been badly
>> compromised by a requirement to be compatible with fossils or
>> misfeatures in other programs or (esp.) previous releases of
>> itself. "MS-DOS 2.0 used \ as a path separator to be bug-compatible
>> with some cretin's choice of / as an option character in 1.0."
Colorado Springs, CO
My advice may be worth what you paid for it.
