Rate this 110 by soon to be owner (hopefully)

RWD · Wednesday at 14:49

Hi all,

Total newbs here. Typical story, have wanted one forever and am finally getting to the stage of pulling the trigger.

I have had some advice already from a good friend but I'm still on my research journey.

Thinking 110 for more family fun, XS for some little comforts and either 2.2 or TD5 engine (happy for thoughts on that).

I have found a clean looking 110 XS TD5 but it's bloody miles away so before going any further I thought I'd see if anyone had any pointers on concerns or questions on this car.

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Any help appreciated

miktdish · Wednesday at 16:01

You need to pay particular attention to the chassis and the bulkhead. At practcally 20 years old these will have some corrosion the extent of which you need to fully understand.
The mudflap barckets look corroded, its not the brackets its where they afix to the chssis.
The rear cross member looks very clean alough there is a bit of corrsion visible where the body fixes onto it and under the back door.
The MOT History speaks of corrosion on the chassis (near the towbar attachment points) ... was it patched ??
The MOT says there is a historical oil leak and PAS component leak.

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The TD5 engine and the transmission are good and solid. As long as the engine has been maintained (regular oil/filter changes etc) then the car 'as a whole' should be good for a year or two before it needs anything major.
If you can do a lot of the work yourself (oils fluids, brakes etc) .. it may be woth considering but I think it may be on the 'high' end of the pricing scale.

ER1C · Wednesday at 16:04

Shame there isnt a forum of like minded folk all around the country many of whom may be close to it. Sure some would go have a ganders for you.

RWD · Wednesday at 16:06

miktdish said:
You need to pay particular attention to the chassis and the bulkhead. At practcally 20 years old these will have some corrosion the extent of which you need to fully understand.
The mudflap barckets look corroded, its not the brackets its where they afix to the chssis.
The rear cross member looks very clean alough there is a bit of corrsion visible where the body fixes onto it and under the back door.
The MOT History speaks of corrosion on the chassis (near the towbar attachment points) ... was it patched ??
The MOT says there is a historical oil leak and PAS component leak.

WG55OKX - Car Check report for 2005 Land Rover Defender (WG55 OKX)

Fully comprehensive tax & MOT history report for the 2005 Blue Land Rover Defender with the registration number WG55 OKX. Check the history of WG55OKX now.

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The TD5 engine and the transmission are good and solid. As long as the engine has been maintained (regular oil/filter changes etc) then the car 'as a whole' should be good for a year or two before it needs anything major.
If you can do a lot of the work yourself (oils fluids, brakes etc) .. it may be woth considering but I think it may be on the 'high' end of the pricing scale.

That's incredibly helpful! Thanks very much. It's a new world and a minefield ball in one. That's interesting you say price is high as I'm only just building a frame of reference.

The corrosion issue is one I'm really conscious of but I don't really know what is to be expected and what is too far gone.

Anaconda · Wednesday at 16:47

I think it looks reasonable on the face of it. Anything you buy is most likely in need of some remedial treatment on the chassis. At least it looks in honest condition rather than covered in black s***, of course pics can deceive.
Prices can be all over the place, you will have to compare and be willing to travel.
Do some research on business sellers.

RWD · Wednesday at 17:34

ER1C said:
Shame there isnt a forum of like minded folk all around the country many of whom may be close to it. Sure some would go have a ganders for you.

Ooh! I hadn't thought of that! If there happens to be anyone in the Bradford area who might be game for a gander that would be hugely helpful!

RWD · Wednesday at 17:37

Anaconda said:
I think it looks reasonable on the face of it. Anything you buy is most likely in need of some remedial treatment on the chassis. At least it looks in honest condition rather than covered in black s***, of course pics can deceive.
Prices can be all over the place, you will have to compare and be willing to travel.
Do some research on business sellers.

Thanks, it's certainly more consistently tidy looking from what I can see.

julianf · Wednesday at 17:56

Mot check online.

Ignore everything other than emissions and corrosion.

Much in the way of corrosion in the history and it doesn't really matter how shiny the paintwork is.

RWD · Wednesday at 18:07

Thanks very much for this. With regard to the corrosion, are there any pointers that I can look out for regarding corrosion on the MOT check

Anaconda · Wednesday at 19:33

RWD said:
Thanks very much for this. With regard to the corrosion, are there any pointers that I can look out for regarding corrosion on the MOT check

Yes, any mention of corrosion, especially if it's mentioned again in following years.
Mine had corrosion mentioned and as the owner towed a caravan he had a new rear chassis welded in. It all depends on if any recommendations are actually sorted correctly. When you have years of fails/recommendations on the same things you just know the vehicle hasn't been looked after.

miktdish · Thursday at 12:44

RWD said:
Thanks very much for this. With regard to the corrosion, are there any pointers that I can look out for regarding corrosion on the MOT check

Advisories. [WG55 0KX]

2018 - Rear Vehicle structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced rear cross member at tow bar mounting (6.1.1 (c) (i))
2019 - Rear Towbar slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting Crossmember (6.1.6 (i) (i))
2021 - Vehicle structure slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting (6.1.6 (i) (i))
2022 - Vehicle structure slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting rear cross member (6.1.6 (i) (i))
2023 - Vehicle structure slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting (6.1.6 (i) (i))
2024 - Vehicle structure slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting (6.1.6 (i) (i))

Hmmmm ... chassis tend to rot from the inside out.
Bet the owner schlapped some paint on it it in 2020.

It has consistent rear shock bush issues (advisories) for 3 or 4 years then in 2023 failed on both Ofside and Nearside with an excessively worn bush (5.3.2 (c))
Along with repeated advisories on oil leaks ...

But it is a shiny, pretty Blue...
This vehicle is just driven around by the owner, probably in/near a large town.
It's not a farm vehicle, it could be the headmasters wifes shopping and socialising car or the lady from the post office (?), the tyres are tarmac oriented and it's not been used for towing as the towball is painted ...
Its not been looked after by an enthusiast but likely has a long list of service receipts from the local garage who has changed the oils, filters and pads.
The steering wheel has been changed (the advert says).
The MOT indicates some corrosion with the side steps etc (which are no longer there) so they were removed and likely (cos the bet damaged) new sills fitted and painted to match.

RWD said:
That's interesting you say price is high as I'm only just building a frame of reference.
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I think the price is high because I believe it needs, or will need soon, a new chassis.
The engine leaks need fixing, the power steering leak needs attention.
These are/can be expensive items.
If these were all done, would the car sell for near on £30,000 ?

But I don't see it as a practical car (for me that is).
I don't want 9 seats ....
The MPG won't be that great, the car is noisy, it will have a few leaks.
If it hasn't already it's heading for an electricaly induced nervous breakdown.

I could be wrong too.
It could be the best car since sliced bread, reliable, ecomonical and a well loved familly member.

Anaconda · Thursday at 13:11

miktdish said:
Advisories. [WG55 0KX]

2018 - Rear Vehicle structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced rear cross member at tow bar mounting (6.1.1 (c) (i))
2019 - Rear Towbar slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting Crossmember (6.1.6 (i) (i))
2021 - Vehicle structure slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting (6.1.6 (i) (i))
2022 - Vehicle structure slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting rear cross member (6.1.6 (i) (i))
2023 - Vehicle structure slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting (6.1.6 (i) (i))
2024 - Vehicle structure slightly corroded within 30cm of towbar mounting (6.1.6 (i) (i))

Hmmmm ... chassis tend to rot from the inside out.
Bet the owner schlapped some paint on it it in 2020.

It has consistent rear shock bush issues (advisories) for 3 or 4 years then in 2023 failed on both Ofside and Nearside with an excessively worn bush (5.3.2 (c))
Along with repeated advisories on oil leaks ...

But it is a shiny, pretty Blue...
This vehicle is just driven around by the owner, probably in/near a large town.
It's not a farm vehicle, it could be the headmasters wifes shopping and socialising car or the lady from the post office (?), the tyres are tarmac oriented and it's not been used for towing as the towball is painted ...
Its not been looked after by an enthusiast but likely has a long list of service receipts from the local garage who has changed the oils, filters and pads.
The steering wheel has been changed (the advert says).
The MOT indicates some corrosion with the side steps etc (which are no longer there) so they were removed and likely (cos the bet damaged) new sills fitted and painted to match.

I think the price is high because I believe it needs, or will need soon, a new chassis.
The engine leaks need fixing, the power steering leak needs attention.
These are/can be expensive items.
If these were all done, would the car sell for near on £30,000 ?

But I don't see it as a practical car (for me that is).
I don't want 9 seats ....
The MPG won't be that great, the car is noisy, it will have a few leaks.
If it hasn't already it's heading for an electricaly induced nervous breakdown.

I could be wrong too.
It could be the best car since sliced bread, reliable, ecomonical and a well loved familly member.

If we are truly honest with ourselves almost all Defenders Td5 and earlier are on borrowed time with regards to the chassis.

saxavordian · Thursday at 13:17

Surprised no would be thieves not had an interest by now

For the length of time on the road Jimmy the Dink Inc normally said hello.
As long as you able to inspect the vehicle have a toffee hammer on the chassis back to the front. Dull sounds are bad high are good. Corrosion are aluminium worms at play to steel plate, bolts especially doors frames also second row seat spar can rust right through.

dag019 · Thursday at 14:49

miktdish said:
t has consistent rear shock bush issues (advisories) for 3 or 4 years then in 2023 failed on both Ofside and Nearside with an excessively worn bush (5.3.2 (c))

Rear shock bushes tend to be an ongoing issue on a 110 and I don't know why. I have mine regularly fail, and have had two sets of super pro bushes replaced under warrantee when they have failed all be in in a longer period than the original rubber ones. I had a period of them lasting about 3 months but think that was a bad batch of blue bag ones. new shocks in various types have made no difference the lower bushes just seem to fail for a past time!

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