Freelander 1 Pre or post facelift FL1.

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Which looks best externally.....for the FL1

  • Pre face lift.

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Post face lift..

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • Total voters
    8
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Alex1000

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Just an opinion. But what is the opinion of peeps on which looks the best externally. Personally, I prefer the FL1 in pre face lift guise.

This has probably been done before, but I can't see one.. so poll is best look externally..
 
I personally prefer the facelift in looks, and function. The tail lights are better positioned to give following vehicles a better idea of the width in the dark. The reverse lights are also better. The headlamps are worlds apart too, as the pre-facelift are using bulbs from the 1970s, and only 2 on main beams. The facelift uses brighter bulbs, better reflector designs, and 4 bulbs on main beams.
The interior is also nicer looking IMO, however it's not made so well, with more creaks and rattles to sort out. The dash also looks more modern, rather than something pinched from a 1980s Montego.

I think the facelift is just a better all round version for modern motoring.
 
If I just think about looks externally - the original design, pre facelift, looks cleaner. But overall, including interior and functionality I prefer the facelifted Hippo.
 
Other than headlights, I prefer the pre facelift. Purely practical reasons, dogs don't scratch bumpers, nor do other motorists. Looks more rugged and the facelift headlights look like they are crying. 😀

Put a pair of good quality spots on a pre facelift, job done.
 
Then they look like this and have to pull the facelifts around !!

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andyfreelandy said:
Other than headlights, I prefer the pre facelift. Purely practical reasons, dogs don't scratch bumpers, nor do other motorists. Looks more rugged and the facelift headlights look like they are crying. 😀

Put a pair of good quality spots on a pre facelift, job done.
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Bumpers on the pre-facelift are definitely less susceptible to damage, very true.

Dip beams on the facelift have twice the light output as the pre-facelift dips do, and spotlights don't fix that issue.
 
300bhp/ton said:
Maybe you need to Google what a Montego dash looks like, clearly you haven't ever seen one. :vb-poke-with-stick:
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I had one back in the early 90s, but have had about 50 cars since then. It was a comparison to how old it looks, not that it was the same part.
These childish posts are why I ignored you, and nothing has changed, so I'll continue to ignore you.
 
300bhp/ton said:
Maybe you need to Google what a Montego dash looks like, clearly you haven't ever seen one. :vb-poke-with-stick:
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It has to be taken in the gist the original comment. For sure they are very different, but then so was the Metro dash of the same era... but the Montego finished in 95 and Freelander started in '97 originally built on a Montego mule.

It was a time of the "Rover Parts Bin". The engine in my Freelander was a diesel developed from the 1 found in Montego and bits and pieces came from those earlier cars. The D1, released while Montego was still being built, had Montego dash bits and (famously) Marina door handles developed in the 60's. The D2 released after F1 had a further development of the diesel found in my F1 and before that Montego.

By the time of the F1 facelift in 2004, the influence of those 80's cars was fading. Someone above (or on another thread) mentions the pre facelift looking more 'retro' - there's a reason for that. My pre facelift has a cassette radio stereo in the dash - very 80's retro.
 
GrumpyGel said:
It has to be taken in the gist the original comment. For sure they are very different, but then so was the Metro dash of the same era... but the Montego finished in 95 and Freelander started in '97 originally built on a Montego mule.

It was a time of the "Rover Parts Bin". The engine in my Freelander was a diesel developed from the 1 found in Montego and bits and pieces came from those earlier cars. The D1, released while Montego was still being built, had Montego dash bits and (famously) Marina door handles developed in the 60's. The D2 released after F1 had a further development of the diesel found in my F1 and before that Montego.

By the time of the F1 facelift in 2004, the influence of those 80's cars was fading. Someone above (or on another thread) mentions the pre facelift looking more 'retro' - there's a reason for that. My pre facelift has a cassette radio stereo in the dash - very 80's retro.
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Not sure what planet are you on, but what you are describing is building cars 101.... EVERY car maker does the same thing. And always has. Nobody builds 100% bespoke parts for each model in the mass market.

However the Dash looks nothing like a Montego and not even sure it shares any real parts either. What Montego dash bits did a D1 have?

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Apart from both being car interiors.... I'm not seeing much that looks the same. Nor with this either...

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Nodge68 said:
I had one back in the early 90s, but have had about 50 cars since then. It was a comparison to how old it looks, not that it was the same part.
These childish posts are why I ignored you, and nothing has changed, so I'll continue to ignore you.
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Pointing out that you are talking rubbish is not childish. Or put it this way, if you didn't post up such dribble, you wouldn't get such replies from me. As you can see the images above, they couldn't look more different. So if you truly have been in a Montego, you either can't remember what they look like or don't know what a Freelander dash looks like. Apart from being 'car interiors' they look nothing alike. I can't even see any common switch gear being used.
 
Nodge68 said:
Dip beams on the facelift have twice the light output as the pre-facelift dips do, and spotlights don't fix that issue.
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Do you have figures to back that up? At most a H7 only puts out 50% more lumens, but the eye won't actually see an increase of 50%.
 
Alex1000 said:
I agree internally the face lift is better, double din capability alone.. but its externally I'm interested in opinion. Thanks all...
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tbh, they aren't hugely different. The facelift was pretty mild, not a full on rebody or redesign. Side on most would be hard pressed to tell the difference. And even face on you have to be a bit of a Land Rover nerd to know.

I imagine in time the earlier models will be the ones people want. Same as with Series Land Rovers, Range Rover Classics and even D1's. But the Freelander is probably a way off that yet.
 
300bhp/ton said:
Pointing out that you are talking rubbish is not childish. Or put it this way, if you didn't post up such dribble, you wouldn't get such replies from me. As you can see the images above, they couldn't look more different. So if you truly have been in a Montego, you either can't remember what they look like or don't know what a Freelander dash looks like. Apart from being 'car interiors' they look nothing alike. I can't even see any common switch gear being used.
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300bhp/ton said:
Not sure what planet are you on, but what you are describing is building cars 101.... EVERY car maker does the same thing. And always has. Nobody builds 100% bespoke parts for each model in the mass market.

However the Dash looks nothing like a Montego and not even sure it shares any real parts either. What Montego dash bits did a D1 have?

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IMG_4706-876x535.jpeg


Apart from both being car interiors.... I'm not seeing much that looks the same. Nor with this either...

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When I posted my reply, I considered starting it with "Why are you being such a cunt?".

I didn't, but I have with this one.

The minor (but probably more major) 2000 changes went to the BMW parts bin, the F2 went to the Ford and Volvo parts bins. WFT do you want people to say where you won't get shitty?

Of course the F1 dash was not the Mondeos, it wasn't all digital or have some burd talking to you either.

But some of its components were taken from it, and the D1, and the styling is nearer to it than cars built later.
 
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