Ow much can they stick out?

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mudskipper

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Ive recently lifted me 300tdi, only 2" and running on 235/85/16 MT's. Fing is to stop er falling over, I'm gonna put 30mm wheel spacers on which brings the wheels out about 45mm more than standard.

Someone as told me plod don't like this wivout some extended wheel arches, so anyone know wot the legal limit is for this?

Cheers,

mud.
 
Council Directive 78/549/EEC of 12 June 1978 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the wheel guards of motor vehicles

ANNEX I

1. GENERAL REQUIREMENTS 1.1. The motor vehicle must be provided with wheel guards (parts of the bodywork, mudguards, etc.).

1.2. The wheel guards must be so designed as to protect other road users, as far as possible, against thrown-up stones, mud, ice, snow and water and to reduce for those users the dangers due to contact with the moving wheels.

2. SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS 2.1. The wheel guards must meet the following requirements when the vehicle is in running order (see section 2.6 of Annex I to Directive 70/156/EEC) and the wheels are in the dead ahead position: 2.1.1. In the part formed by radial planes at an angle of 30º to the front and 50º to the rear of the centre of the wheels (see figure 1), the overall width (q) of the wheel guards must be at least sufficient to cover the total tyre width (b) taking into account the extremes of tyre/wheel combination as specified by the manufacturer and as indicated in section 5.2 of the certificate set out in Annex II. In the case of twin wheels, the total width over the two tyres (t) shall be taken into account. 2.1.1.1. For the purposes of determining the widths referred to in 2.1.1, the labelling (marking) and decorations, protective bands or ribs on tyre walls are not taken into account.

2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre.

2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: 2.1.3.1. the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1;

2.1.3.2. the distance © between the lower edges of the wheel guards and the axis passing through the centre of the wheels must not exceed 2r, "r" being the static radius of the tyre.

2.1.4. In the case of vehicles having adjustable suspension height, the abovementioned requirements must be met when the vehicle is in the normal running position specified by the vehicle manufacturer.

2.2. The wheel guards may consist of several components, provided no gaps exist between or within the individual parts when assembled.

2.3. The wheel guards must be firmly attached. However, they may be detachable either as a unit or in parts.
 
99.5% is a silly figure to quote - why not say it's 100%

I dont know all I know is my wheels were sticking out half a inch and I got a lot of **** for it and the police said that 99.5% have to be coverd I have no Idea where they got that from but they said they had the law degree and they know what they are talking about:confused::confused:
 
where do you get 99.5% from ?

the tyre thread cannot be visible when viewed directly from above - it's as simply as that

Ok, that answers that. Slipped into a coma reading the legal stuff, but I get the gist, cheers Sean.

Wots best way to make sum arches? I'm finking 2mm ally and pop rivets?
 
the law degree and they know what they are talking about

Yeah...a law degree does not help with traffic regulations one bit though! I seem to know more about traffic legalities than every copper that has pulled me over, which seems to annoy them somewhat (and I don't even know that much, which says something!)
 
Ok, that answers that. Slipped into a coma reading the legal stuff, but I get the gist, cheers Sean.

Wots best way to make sum arches? I'm finking 2mm ally and pop rivets?

Some metal and hammer and a big block of solid wood and shape the metal...

now if you have milling tools then you could make the best wheel arches possable....
 
arches made outta metal are gonna stay bent when they get bashed - make em outta something flexible like HD PVC or thick sheet rubber
 
I dont know all I know is my wheels were sticking out half a inch and I got a lot of **** for it and the police said that 99.5% have to be coverd I have no Idea where they got that from but they said they had the law degree and they know what they are talking about:confused::confused:

WOW....police men with law degrees.....what next?

He was feeding you a line because he probably didn't know for definite.

You can't have the tyre sitting proud of the wheel arch when the wheels are facing straight on. So, just make yourself or buy some extended arches that stick out a little further than your tyres do and you'll be right!
 
i once made some arch extentions by using some some door brushes (draught excluders ) and stuck them on with pink stuff the really strong gap fill glue that comes in mastic tubes just stick them to the arches and wedge em in place till the glue goes off 20 mins or so the pastic rail to the arch brushes out like an eybrow they work a treat look fairly good and the old bill once had a look an thought i was a cool trick cos its like anti spray kit fitted to trucks and they lasted a couple of years off roading knocks bumps ann bangs included simple trick job done ooh for the love of mud and the devil makes me do it mudpilot
 
i once made some arch extentions by using some some door brushes (draught excluders ) and stuck them on with pink stuff the really strong gap fill glue that comes in mastic tubes just stick them to the arches and wedge em in place till the glue goes off 20 mins or so the pastic rail to the arch brushes out like an eybrow they work a treat look fairly good and the old bill once had a look an thought i was a cool trick cos its like anti spray kit fitted to trucks and they lasted a couple of years off roading knocks bumps ann bangs included simple trick job done ooh for the love of mud and the devil makes me do it mudpilot

Did they flutter in the wind and make you blush?
 
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