Mute connection for C42 Head Unit

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Just installed Nokia CAR-91 hands free kit to my 53 Commercial TD4, fitted with Philips C42 head unit. All fine and dandy, peach of a job, but couldn't find where to connect the radio phone mute wire on head unit. User guide says "if telephone kit is fitted then unit will mute" so it must be capable. Checked RAVE cd to no avail, can anyone help with this ?

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Ok folks, we keep getting the same question over and over again and it is starting to get frustrating. So I have decided to give a brief run through on what to do. this information can be applied to any vehicles with non ISO stereo's as well. This will tell you how I do it. My methods may differ slightly from other engineers in the equipment that I use, some engineers frown on using a test lamp and use a meter.

This section is for guidance only! I will not be held liable for damage caused to your stereo by following any of the instructions that follow! Any auto electrical work should always be left to a competent person who knows what they are doing!

Knowledge

If you do not understand what a 12 volt positive feed is, or a 12 volt switched live or an earth is, then you do not have the required knowledge to do this yourself! If in doubt, pay a professional to do it for you!

You will require

Wire strippers
small cable ties
radio removal keys
Radio code (where applicable)

1 x 12 volt automotive test lamp. i use a snap on 12 volt one which is about £30.00, you can get a semi decent one from most good car accessory shops for about £10.00

Alternatively, you can use a 12v bulb holder with two wires on it and a low wattage bulb (5 watts or less or there will be too much resistance for it to work!), put a crocodile clip on one end and bare back the wire and solder (tin) the end.

ISO PLUGs

By far the most common plug in French, German, Italian cars and aftermarket accessory radios.
The picture below shows ISO plugs with common mute positions and common earth and 12v live posistions for 99% of ISO radios (excl kenwood, they usually have a blanking plug and Sony have an ATT wire).

ISO_Tel_Mutes.jpg


Image above is viewed from the radio side of the plug, in other words, if you unplug the ISO's from the radio, this is what you will see. The top plug with nothing written on is for the front and rear speakers.

Checking for a mute

Pop the radio out

check for a pinout label on the top, some tell you the tel mute posistion

if no label then switch radio on

connect one end of testlamp to earth/ground/radio chassis

probe the positions above, if the sound dims or cuts out check the display and see if it says phone/tel/mute/ATT if so you have found the mute

insert the mute wire in that position and secure with a cable tie.

Heres exactly what i have described in a Citroen C5 and I found the mute in about 35 seconds tops! N.B. do not use the fuse method on this vehicle to test for mute, arcing will blow the ECU!!!

Citroen-C5-mute-a.jpg


This technique can be used on any car, if you don't understand any of the above or cannot find the mute, call in a professional.
 
Excellent process there matey!!

Normally its found on a sticky label attached to the Head Unit - Wigleytuff have you removed the Head Unit and checked for stickers??

Regards,

Steve
 
indeed I have and it is sadly bereft of any info. will give mad hat man's method a go in the morning, with the benefit of daylight to show me. Also, the connector is non-iso, but when I had the unit out to fit the multi changer, I found the earth, permanent feed and switched feed, along with the switched illumination feed. The speaker circuits colours seem to be as per rave, which I think only leaves a choice of two cores for it to be. If you find a post for me asking if anyone has a C42 head unit, you'll know it didn't go well.
 
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