Mot fail 1 Fog Lamp

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Hi,

Just looking for advice - my discovery sport failed its MOT for a rear fog lamp not working. The law in the uk states you must have at least one rear fog lamp working but I have two rear fog lamps. My question is should it have failed due to that when I still had one fog lamp working and only paid for one fog lamp. I would have taken it to get it fixed elsewhere so it was cheaper but they wouldn’t let me because they said it had failed. It cost over £300 to get it fixed with landrover. Is that right? Any advice would be much appreciated.
 
This is what is stated in the MOT testers manual below.

So it looks as if it should have been an “advisory” as u have two lamps fitted as only one lamp is illuminated (1/2).
If so then it should be the off side that illuminates as with the rule for vehicles with a single fitting.

My rule on my cars is if it’s fitted it should work, therefore I check before an MOT so no issues at the test.


(i) A front or rear fog lamp with a multiple light source up to 1/2 not functioning
(ii) An obligatory rear fog lamp missing, or a front or rear fog lamp inoperative or in the case of a multiple light source more than 1/2 not functioning

Minor

Major
 
Need at least one and on the off side
Having said that, my old Mini passed with one in the middle
 
landowner said:
Need at least one and on the off side
Having said that, my old Mini passed with one in the middle
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  • front fog lamps fitted to vehicles first used on or after 1 March 2018
  • the 1 rear fog lamp which must be fitted to the centre or offside of vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1980
My disco has fog lamps front an rear but i’ve never used them, l have never driven it in fog 😊
I also have a summer car in the garage thats not fitted with them.
 
LRD123 said:
Hi,

Just looking for advice - my discovery sport failed its MOT for a rear fog lamp not working. The law in the uk states you must have at least one rear fog lamp working but I have two rear fog lamps. My question is should it have failed due to that when I still had one fog lamp working and only paid for one fog lamp. I would have taken it to get it fixed elsewhere so it was cheaper but they wouldn’t let me because they said it had failed. It cost over £300 to get it fixed with landrover. Is that right? Any advice would be much appreciated.
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They cannot stop you driving the vehicle away to a place of repair, i.e. to your home.
Then you could fix it for far less.
Then take it back for a retest which should be free.
So you got ripped off, don't go back there again.

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Discovery Sport - Rear Fog Light Bulb replacement..?

Hi there. I have a 2014 Discovery Sport. Just failed MOT for an offside rear fog light not working. Please can anyone advise how to access/change the bulb? Total novice here and hoping some guidance is available please. Thanks in advance everyone
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Stanleysteamer said:
A better guide on how to replace it. Just in case anyone else is still reading this thread!

Land Rover iGuide Online

www.ownerinfo.landrover.com www.ownerinfo.landrover.com
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So if it's bumper off then at Land Rover it will be an easy £300 worth with new lamp (bound to be led), labour and vat.
EDIT. It is led and £120 + vat, so all in all £300 bill is to be expected.
Glad my Defender is a bulb.
 
Anaconda said:
So if it's bumper off then at Land Rover it will be an easy £300 worth with new lamp (bound to be led), labour and vat.
EDIT. It is led and £120 + vat, so all in all £300 bill is to be expected.
Glad my Defender is a bulb.
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£144 led red light, as opposed to a 99p bulb from Halfrauds! Gross indecency!!
MAD!
I'd fit a holder somehow and save myself a fortune.
How dumb do car manufacturers think we are?
Foglight robbery! :mad::mad::mad:💡💡💡
 
The MOT rule about 1/2 must work applies when it's a cluster eg half of the cluster must work if it's made up of 10 bulbs, 5 must work. Same goes for any other light
 
The owner can drive their vehicle away from a MOT test garage which has just failed it, but it must have the previous MOT still within date. If not the vehicle can still be removed but that is on a flat back truck, unless towing is still legal 🤔

As we all know it’s illegal to drive a vehicle on a public road that requires an MOT certificate but without one, so maybe invalidating the insurance as well.
 
discool said:
The owner can drive their vehicle away from a MOT test garage which has just failed it, but it must have the previous MOT still within date. If not the vehicle can still be removed but that is on a flat back truck, unless towing is still legal 🤔

As we all know it’s illegal to drive a vehicle on a public road that requires an MOT certificate but without one, so maybe invalidating the insurance as well.
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To clarify:
Only if the fault is "dangerous" are you wrong to take it to a place of repair yourself.

"Some confusion still arises, however, because you can have your car tested up to a month before the old certificate expires without affecting the anniversary date. If you have some time on your old MOT, therefore, can you drive the car on the old certificate even though it’s failed the test for a new one?

The answer here is yes, provided that in failing the test, no problems have been listed as ‘dangerous’. If you continue to drive with dangerous faults - even if there is some time left on your old MOT certificate - then you could be facing a £2,500 fine and three points on your driving licence.

However, if your car has failed the test without dangerous issues and you continue to drive on your old certificate, then if you are stopped by the police you could still be prosecuted for driving a vehicle that isn’t roadworthy."
 
Stanleysteamer said:
To clarify:
Only if the fault is "dangerous" are you wrong to take it to a place of repair yourself.

"Some confusion still arises, however, because you can have your car tested up to a month before the old certificate expires without affecting the anniversary date. If you have some time on your old MOT, therefore, can you drive the car on the old certificate even though it’s failed the test for a new one?

The answer here is yes, provided that in failing the test, no problems have been listed as ‘dangerous’. If you continue to drive with dangerous faults - even if there is some time left on your old MOT certificate - then you could be facing a £2,500 fine and three points on your driving licence.

However, if your car has failed the test without dangerous issues and you continue to drive on your old certificate, then if you are stopped by the police you could still be prosecuted for driving a vehicle that isn’t roadworthy."
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So in reality you can't drive it then, although most people will.
I was under the impression, probably wrong, if you fail an MOT then you can no longer drive it even if you have a month left. Your old MOT then becomes invalid and your new MOT (failed) then takes precedence over it.
Sure the correct info will be out there.
 
discool said:
The owner can drive their vehicle away from a MOT test garage which has just failed it, but it must have the previous MOT still within date. If not the vehicle can still be removed but that is on a flat back truck, unless towing is still legal 🤔

As we all know it’s illegal to drive a vehicle on a public road that requires an MOT certificate but without one, so maybe invalidating the insurance as well.
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Vehicle being towed must be roadworthy, MOT, tax and insurance.
 
As mentioned earlier the nsr fog lamp is not a testable item so isn't relevant.
Looks like the OP has a case, make a fuss and threaten to report them if they don't refund your money, although you should really fix a fault on your car.
Fog lamp has to be fitted to osr or central position.
 
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