MOT Advisories?

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j_g_uk

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Our daughter is looking at buying a Landy Disco 4 - 2014 plate, with ~101k miles. It’s got two advisories on the MOT. Front to rear brake pipe corroded and prop shaft centre bearing rubber worn.

I’m currently 3,500 miles away so can’t go and look at it or do the work.

1. Are these expensive jobs for her to get her local garage to do?
2. Anything else she and her husband should look at or he aware of?

It’s a private sale so no garage/dealer to offer any warranty or backup.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
j_g_uk said:
Our daughter is looking at buying a Landy Disco 4 - 2014 plate, with ~101k miles. It’s got two advisories on the MOT. Front to rear brake pipe corroded and prop shaft centre bearing rubber worn.

I’m currently 3,500 miles away so can’t go and look at it or do the work.

1. Are these expensive jobs for her to get her local garage to do?
2. Anything else she and her husband should look at or he aware of?

It’s a private sale so no garage/dealer to offer any warranty or backup.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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@gstuart ?
 
Brake pipe is pennies but VERY fiddly to do, I would assume they need replacing on both sides, when my Defender had the same about 10 years ago it was £350 from a local garage to replace the lot.

Not sure on Prop shaft, if thats just a UJ it will an hour and £20 but I am 20 years older do it may be quite different on a disco 4.

Stick the reg in here and we can see old mot history if it helps.
 
j_g_uk said:
2. Anything else she and her husband should look at or he aware of?
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Is it the V6 diesel?
If so tell them to look for something else.
It has nothing to do with the advisories, but all to do with the potential handgrenade under the bonnet.
I know there are many who run and have the V6, but why put yourself through the potential it may happen.

J
 
ER1C said:
Brake pipe is pennies but VERY fiddly to do, I would assume they need replacing on both sides, when my Defender had the same about 10 years ago it was £350 from a local garage to replace the lot.

Not sure on Prop shaft, if thats just a UJ it will an hour and £20 but I am 20 years older do it may be quite different on a disco 4.

Stick the reg in here and we can see old mot history if it helps.
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It's not pennies if you are paying labour or having to buy the stuff to do it yourself.
 
marjon said:
Is it the V6 diesel?
If so tell them to look for something else.
It has nothing to do with the advisories, but all to do with the potential handgrenade under the bonnet.
I know there are many who run and have the V6, but why put yourself through the potential it may happen.

J
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It is the V6 diesel. Car looks very tidy & well spec’d Xenon’s & full leather etc with full service history. I’ve suggested they find a local independent Landy specialist to give it a pre purchase inspection.
 
j_g_uk said:
It is the V6 diesel. Car looks very tidy & well spec’d Xenon’s & full leather etc with full service history. I’ve suggested they find a local independent Landy specialist to give it a pre purchase inspection.
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I dont think any inspection or even FSH will show up when a crank snaps.

Its only my opinion though, not my money :)

J
 
Front to rear brake pipes are an arse job on the d3/4/rrr.
Centre bearing means new propshaft on these, about 300 for the prop.
You will find garages will avoid the d3/4/rr just as they do the series/defenders as they always go balls up and cost more than expected.

As said above get your daughter to spend just 1/2 an hour on google, enter SDV6 engine failure, SDSV6 crankshaft failure, SDV6 engine issues, they have a really bad reputation.
If she does buy it make sure she buys it on finance so if it goes tits up she has some back up.

One guy on another forum summed it up for me when he wrote, I sold the car as it was like driving around with a hand grenade under the bonnet with the pin pulled! this was a few years back now when his 2016 model was a very expensive car.

Now when an engine blows on a D4 the parts and labour are so high the car could be scrap, hence my suggestion of using finance.
 
lynall said:
Front to rear brake pipes are an arse job on the d3/4/rrr.
Centre bearing means new propshaft on these, about 300 for the prop.
You will find garages will avoid the d3/4/rr just as they do the series/defenders as they always go balls up and cost more than expected.

As said above get your daughter to spend just 1/2 an hour on google, enter SDV6 engine failure, SDSV6 crankshaft failure, SDV6 engine issues, they have a really bad reputation.
If she does buy it make sure she buys it on finance so if it goes tits up she has some back up.

One guy on another forum summed it up for me when he wrote, I sold the car as it was like driving around with a hand grenade under the bonnet with the pin pulled! this was a few years back now when his 2016 model was a very expensive car.

Now when an engine blows on a D4 the parts and labour are so high the car could be scrap, hence my suggestion of using finance.
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What difference would buying it on finance make? It’s a private sale.

Anyway I’ve also looked up valuations on Autotrader & Parkers online and it’s severely overpriced. She’s going to ask where they got their price from but I’ve told her not to hold her breath to get the several £k off the price. (It’s on at £14k and the most it’s valued for is £10650…)

Anyway she’s found another one that’s cheaper and it looks as though it’s been photographed outside a dealer (although it’s too old and too many miles to be a stock car for a main stealer). I’ve suggested it might be a trade in they’re trying to move on via Facebook Marketplace.

She wants a Disco as it’s got room for the dogs plus she’s got first baby in the way. She can’t afford a more recent one than about 2014

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j_g_uk said:
What difference would buying it on finance make? It’s a private sale.

Anyway I’ve also looked up valuations on Autotrader & Parkers online and it’s severely overpriced. She’s going to ask where they got their price from but I’ve told her not to hold her breath to get the several £k off the price. (It’s on at £14k and the most it’s valued for is £10650…)

Anyway she’s found another one that’s cheaper and it looks as though it’s been photographed outside a dealer (although it’s too old and too many miles to be a stock car for a main stealer). I’ve suggested it might be a trade in they’re trying to move on via Facebook Marketplace.

She wants a Disco as it’s got room for the dogs plus she’s got first baby in the way. She can’t afford a more recent one than about 2014

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Because the finance co will own a share of the car, and if the car is worthless with a blown engine then that effects them to, plus of course once past so many payments (1/2 maybe?) you can hand it back, then it is their baby to sort out.
Little point on asking the seller about their price as it is probably what they owe on finance! plus they will have seen them for sale at dealers for the same price and assume theirs is worth as much.

I believe all the 3 litre v6 diesel engines have the same issues, D4/D5 and Range Rover models.
The smaller Ingenium engines are apparently even worse.
Due diligence with lots of research is needed big time on any old land rover regardless of model.

If they are well off and can twirl the spanners I would say maybe go for it, but if a 10k car with a blown engine that could be worthless in a years time will financially ruin them, then I would look elsewhere.
 
lynall said:
Because the finance co will own a share of the car, and if the car is worthless with a blown engine then that effects them to, plus of course once past so many payments (1/2 maybe?) you can hand it back, then it is their baby to sort out.
Little point on asking the seller about their price as it is probably what they owe on finance! plus they will have seen them for sale at dealers for the same price and assume theirs is worth as much.

I believe all the 3 litre v6 diesel engines have the same issues, D4/D5 and Range Rover models.
The smaller Ingenium engines are apparently even worse.
Due diligence with lots of research is needed big time on any old land rover regardless of model.

If they are well off and can twirl the spanners I would say maybe go for it, but if a 10k car with a blown engine that could be worthless in a years time will financially ruin them, then I would look elsewhere.
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You obviously finance cars in a different way to them or me. If they do finance it (and I think they’re more likely to pay cash) then it would be a bank loan and the bank will have no ‘interest’ in the car.

The price asked might be more to do with trying to beat a trade in offer the seller has received on a newer car. The seller admits it’s still their daily drive until the ‘new car’ arrives.

The only spanner wielding will probably be a garage or me. Except I’m away sailing until May (and then I’m delivering a boat from Portland to Gibraltar for a week or two). Baby is due end of July so no rush to buy something today.

If worst cones to worst I’ve changed (and rebuilt) a few engines (including race engines and diesel engines and gearboxes ) in my time. I can always drop in another second hand engine.

I’ve passed on the advice. Let’s see what they choose.
 
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j_g_uk said:
You obviously finance cars in a different way to them or me. If they do finance it (and I think they’re more likely to pay cash) then it would be a bank loan and the bank will have no ‘interest’ in the car.

The price asked might be more to do with trying to beat a trade in offer the seller has received on a newer car. The seller admits it’s still their daily drive until the ‘new car’ arrives.

The only spanner wielding will probably be a garage or me. Except I’m away sailing until May (and then I’m delivering a boat from Portland to Gibraltar for a week or two). Baby is due end of July so no rush to buy something today.

If worst cones to worst I’ve changed (and rebuilt) a few engines (including race engines and diesel engines and gearboxes ) in my time. I can always drop in another second hand engine.

I’ve passed on the advice. Let’s see what they choose.
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j_g_uk said:
Our daughter is looking at buying a Landy Disco 4 - 2014 plate, with ~101k miles. It’s got two advisories on the MOT. Front to rear brake pipe corroded and prop shaft centre bearing rubber worn.

I’m currently 3,500 miles away so can’t go and look at it or do the work.

1. Are these expensive jobs for her to get her local garage to do?
2. Anything else she and her husband should look at or he aware of?

It’s a private sale so no garage/dealer to offer any warranty or backup.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Interior space might be a problem but would she consider a late Freelander or an early Disco Sport with the same 2.2 engine. Much better engine. Watch for rear subframe corrosion.
 
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