Ministry of defender

Corrie · Apr 30, 2021

I just noticed this company are offering a new defender buit to your spec and registered as new. How can that be , who would the manufacturer be and model be.if they can do that what stopping any of us? Can someone if they know explain just seems to good to be true. I could do that new chassis new bulkhead ,recon engine and box and bolt on panels.

https://ministryofdefender.co.uk/custom-land-rover.html

lynall · Apr 30, 2021

16 plate is 5 years old now?

Corrie · Apr 30, 2021

I know, I think that when it was written

Shippers · Apr 30, 2021

Their blurb is very contradictory...

wireman · Apr 30, 2021

Shippers said:
Their blurb is very contradictory...

Quite, it can't be a '16' plate AND registered as brand new, they could totally rebuild a '16' plate but it would still be a '16' plate. I don't know how they could put a TDI engine into a '16' plate as it wouldn't meet the emission standards for that date - surely?

Shippers · Apr 30, 2021

wireman said:
Quite, it can't be a '16' plate AND registered as brand new, they could totally rebuild a '16' plate but it would still be a '16' plate. I don't know how they could put a TDI engine into a '16' plate as it wouldn't meet the emission standards for that date - surely?

Totaly agree...if they use recon axles and engine with new chassis will it not get a Q plate? as its a bitsa...

wireman · Apr 30, 2021

Shippers said:
Totaly agree...if they use recon axles and engine with new chassis will it not get a Q plate? as its a bitsa...

IIRC you can replace like for like without incurring a penalty, but you CANNOT use a second hand chassis, it must be brand new.
I copied this from the DVLA website:

Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below if you want to keep the original registration number. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.

Part Points
Chassis, monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit) or frame - original or new and unmodified (direct from manufacturer) 5
Suspension (front and back) - original 2
Axles (both) - original 2
Transmission - original 2
Steering assembly - original 2
Engine - original 1
Get a ‘Q’ registration number
You will not be able to keep your vehicle’s original registration number if one of the following applies:

it has fewer than 8 points
it has a second-hand or altered chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame
there’s evidence that 2 vehicles have been welded together to form one (ie ‘cut and shut’)

Your vehicle must pass the relevant type approval test to get a ‘Q’ prefix registration number.

bluedog333 · Apr 30, 2021

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wireman said:
IIRC you can replace like for like without incurring a penalty, but you CANNOT use a second hand chassis, it must be brand new.
I copied this from the DVLA website:

Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below if you want to keep the original registration number. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.

Part Points
Chassis, monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit) or frame - original or new and unmodified (direct from manufacturer) 5
Suspension (front and back) - original 2
Axles (both) - original 2
Transmission - original 2
Steering assembly - original 2
Engine - original 1
Get a ‘Q’ registration number
You will not be able to keep your vehicle’s original registration number if one of the following applies:

it has fewer than 8 points

it has a second-hand or altered chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame

there’s evidence that 2 vehicles have been welded together to form one (ie ‘cut and shut’)

Your vehicle must pass the relevant type approval test to get a ‘Q’ prefix registration number.

Going by the points system, how d’ya reckon they register a ‘16 plate unless they reuse the axles;suspension;transmission and steering from a ‘16 plate vehicle?

wireman · Apr 30, 2021

bluedog333 said:
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Going by the points system, how d’ya reckon they register a ‘16 plate unless they reuse the axles;suspension;transmission and steering from a ‘16 plate vehicle?

I've no idea, sounds like a legal minefield! As @Shippers said "Their blurb is very contradictory..."

bluedog333 · Apr 30, 2021

wireman said:
I've no idea, sounds like a legal minefield! As @Shippers said "Their blurb is very contradictory..."

It’s a brand new, reconditioned, newly registered, 2nd hand, vintage, fresh off the factory line DVLA curiosity!

wireman · Apr 30, 2021

bluedog333 said:
It’s a brand new, reconditioned, newly registered, 2nd hand, vintage, fresh off the factory line DVLA curiosity!

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