landrover 200tdi hard to start

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doey

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hi all just bought a 90 200tdi :D

its had a new timing belt so i been told

but its hard to start from cold about 30 turns before it get running

once started about 5 turns? to restart

one started its lumpy for a while but gets better the warmer it gets??

any thoughts:confused:

thanks
 
Glow plugs? Sounds like it might only be starting and firing on 3 cylinders till the engine warms up enough? Is it very smoky when it's "lumpy"?
 
Buy four new glow plugs and fit them.

Make sure they get power for long enough.

A goods 20 seconds on a cold morning .. maybe longer.

CharlesY
 
odenne said:
Does the 200 not have an automatic timer CharlesY? Not sure how it works though, can you hold it on for longer than the timer???
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Yes it does. Mine always starts first touch after the glows time-out, no matter how cold and damp it is.
After the first start-up of the day, the glows are no longer needed.
 
Treworgey 90 said:
Yes it does. Mine always starts first touch after the glows time-out, no matter how cold and damp it is.
After the first start-up of the day, the glows are no longer needed.
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That's what i thoght - is it based on a timer or a thermostat - ie does the light go out quicker if the engine is warm???

Also does the light going out switch the plugs off, in which case there woudn't be an option to hold them on a bit longer?
 
They seem to glow longer when cold, then the relay cuts them off.
To get a longer glow, you have to turn the key off then on again immediately the light goes out.
 
My 200 is a bit dicky at starting in the cold (glow plugs are goosed), but sticking Cetane booster in helps it start on first turn every time. Currently using Millers Oils Diesel Sport plus4 cetane booster from Halfrauds. £12 and treats 500 litres, well worth the extra 2.4p per litre on your fuel cost.
 
I wouldn't be too quick to blame the glow plugs..... i have never used the glow plugs on my 200 as its never struggled to start without. I thought all 200s would start without them.. i would be thinking it was a fuel problem...
 
Hmm
The only other thing i can think is to remind you not to touch the accelerator before the engine gets going as this will reset the cold start mechanism and make it not work and therefore harder to start - (but sorry, i guess this is teaching granny to suck eggs! ):D
 
carpmobile said:
I wouldn't be too quick to blame the glow plugs..... i have never used the glow plugs on my 200 as its never struggled to start without. I thought all 200s would start without them.. i would be thinking it was a fuel problem...
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could it be the pump timing is out:confused: :confused:
 
Griffdowg said:
how fast is the starter motor turning over? just a thought other than the glow plug theory
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Great question!

I used to have a Ferguson tractor, a 2.2 litre diesel.
They claimed in the handbook you could start it BY HAND on a cold morning.

Farmers must have been big strong guys in 1955, that's all I can say.

Anyway, the Fergie had a flame plug, a Kigass pump, and a two stage decompressor. First thing was to decompress all the cylinders by heaving a lever that held all the exhaust valves down a little. Once you had wound the engine over with the handle to loosen it up, you gave it a blast on the flame plug and Kigass, then started turning the handle - the book said "when you have built up a good speed half drop the decompressor lever which will compress one cylinder which will start to fire, (you are still working on the handle!) and when it is firing well, throw the decompressor lever fully and the other three cylinders will start firing."

Aye, right .... I want to see someone doing this on a frosty morning!

Has anyone seen a diesel Landy with a starting handle?

CharlesY
 
CharlesY said:
Has anyone seen a diesel Landy with a starting handle?

CharlesY
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Dunno bout that, but me Grandad used to have a very early Range Rover, which came with a starting handle for the V8. He used it successfully once too, after leaving the lights on and flattening the battery.

He also had a Lister Stationery engine, which he used to power his saw bench via a flat belt. That was somewhat tricky to get started with its handle - the bugger would "kick back" sometimes and try to break your wrist.
 
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