Isuzu Trooper conversion to LPG

I'm considering converting Trooper 98 (3.5L V6 petrol engine) to run on
liquified propane gas (natural gas or whatever it's called). Any
feedback/experience on this - good or bad? I reckon it should pay for itself
in a year at most.

TIA,
Peter

A friend has just converted his V8 Disco, now cost's him him £20.00 a week.
He is so impressed, he is replacing the fuel tank for a further 100lt LPG
tank and keeping a 10gallon petrol tank on board.

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"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm considering converting Trooper 98 (3.5L V6 petrol engine) to run on
> liquified propane gas (natural gas or whatever it's called). Any
> feedback/experience on this - good or bad? I reckon it should pay for
itself
> in a year at most.
>
> TIA,
> Peter
>
>

Igundwane <[email protected]> wrote:

> A friend has just converted his V8 Disco, now cost's him him £20.00 a week.
> He is so impressed, he is replacing the fuel tank for a further 100lt LPG
> tank and keeping a 10gallon petrol tank on board.

Beware, Gordon Brown has promised to raise LPG tax "substantially" at
the next budget. We just don't know how a big a rise he considers
substantial.

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I think the sole reason to use LPG in your car in this country is the
fuel cost, isn't it? Let me talk a little about LPG usage in Korea
here. I'm from Korea and there are tons of LPG vehicle in Korea because
of the high gas price. However, LPG vehicles are only allowed for
commercial purpose or handicapped people because of the mechanical
difficulties and also of government's concern about the reduced tax
collection . Here's what I heard from magazines and newspapers....
1.Usually, LPG engines are less powerful that gas vehicle. This is
mainly because the engine and trans are not properly tuned for LPG
property. Most of the LPG engines are just an fuel injecting device
attatched version of gas engine in Korea. I think the situation is
similar in this country.
2. LPG price is very very vurnerable to tax policy and supply.
3. LPG engine has quite annoying problem with cold start. The fuel will
freeze in the fuel line during the night in cold weather.
4. Once fuel line starts to leak, it's extremely hard to find the
problematic spot and fix it because its invisible. This is one of the
main reason that lots of taxi drivers in Korea complains his health problem.

If you're ok with the listed problem, yes you can use LPG and save you
money.

Peter wrote:
> I'm considering converting Trooper 98 (3.5L V6 petrol engine) to run on
> liquified propane gas (natural gas or whatever it's called). Any
> feedback/experience on this - good or bad? I reckon it should pay for itself
> in a year at most.
>
> TIA,
> Peter
>
>

Yeonsang wrote:
> I think the sole reason to use LPG in your car in this country is the
> fuel cost, isn't it? Let me talk a little about LPG usage in Korea
> here. I'm from Korea and there are tons of LPG vehicle in Korea
> because of the high gas price. However, LPG vehicles are only
> allowed for commercial purpose or handicapped people because of the
> mechanical difficulties and also of government's concern about the
> reduced tax collection . Here's what I heard from magazines and
> newspapers....
> 1.Usually, LPG engines are less powerful that gas vehicle. This is
> mainly because the engine and trans are not properly tuned for LPG
> property. Most of the LPG engines are just an fuel injecting device
> attatched version of gas engine in Korea. I think the situation is
> similar in this country.

This is generally caused by lpg being 114 octane and petrol being less - a
device thats advances the ignition fixes it.

> 2. LPG price is very very vurnerable to tax policy and supply.

Only to the same degree as petrol or diesel.

> 3. LPG engine has quite annoying problem with cold start. The fuel
> will freeze in the fuel line during the night in cold weather.

You must have very cold nights in Korea. lpg boils at -42C and freezes
at -187C!

> 4. Once fuel line starts to leak, it's extremely hard to find the
> problematic spot and fix it because its invisible. This is one of the
> main reason that lots of taxi drivers in Korea complains his health
> problem.
>
Just replace the whole line.


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Exit <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > 4. Once fuel line starts to leak, it's extremely hard to find the
> > problematic spot and fix it because its invisible. This is one of the
> > main reason that lots of taxi drivers in Korea complains his health
> > problem.
> >
> Just replace the whole line.

In some european countries LPG vehicles are not allowed into underground
parking garages because of this leakage danger.

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madiba wrote:
> Exit <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>> 4. Once fuel line starts to leak, it's extremely hard to find the
>>> problematic spot and fix it because its invisible. This is one of
>>> the main reason that lots of taxi drivers in Korea complains his
>>> health problem.
>>>
>> Just replace the whole line.
>
> In some european countries LPG vehicles are not allowed into
> underground parking garages because of this leakage danger.

Why? Leaking petrol drips onto the vehicle or polls on the floor underneath.
LPG dissipates into the air. I'd much rather be in a car leaking lpg than
petrol.

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Exit <[email protected]> wrote:

> madiba wrote:
> > Exit <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> 4. Once fuel line starts to leak, it's extremely hard to find the
> >>> problematic spot and fix it because its invisible. This is one of
> >>> the main reason that lots of taxi drivers in Korea complains his
> >>> health problem.
> >>>
> >> Just replace the whole line.
> >
> > In some european countries LPG vehicles are not allowed into
> > underground parking garages because of this leakage danger.
>
> Why? Leaking petrol drips onto the vehicle or polls on the floor underneath.
> LPG dissipates into the air. I'd much rather be in a car leaking lpg than
> petrol.

I suppose its because gas fills a room much more quickly (poor
ventilation underground), so if a smoker walks in it all over in one big
bang. Petrol just causes a fire on the floor where the puddle is..
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In article <1g7bp0m.uffnuw1cc4u2cN%[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Exit <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > madiba wrote:
> > > Exit <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> 4. Once fuel line starts to leak, it's extremely hard to find the
> > >>> problematic spot and fix it because its invisible. This is one of
> > >>> the main reason that lots of taxi drivers in Korea complains his
> > >>> health problem.
> > >>>
> > >> Just replace the whole line.
> > >
> > > In some european countries LPG vehicles are not allowed into
> > > underground parking garages because of this leakage danger.
> >
> > Why? Leaking petrol drips onto the vehicle or polls on the floor underneath.
> > LPG dissipates into the air. I'd much rather be in a car leaking lpg than
> > petrol.
>
> I suppose its because gas fills a room much more quickly (poor
> ventilation underground), so if a smoker walks in it all over in one big
> bang. Petrol just causes a fire on the floor where the puddle is..
>

Or so the oil companies would like you to think I think they are
both an explosion hazard but public perception plays a role in policy
writing. Most people think that it's safer to have a rusting tin can
full of gasoline strapped under our cars than to have a a carbon fiber
wrapped aluminum bottle that is DOT tested every two years, full of
Hydrogen. So we have gas tanks instead of Hydrogen bottles.
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