Heater Matrix

Landyfox · Dec 21, 2014

I've managed to get hold of a TD5 replacement heater matrix in pretty good condition with a brand new radiator that has just been fitted, albeit there's a little bit of surface rust.

My current one is from a 300TDi and looks identical, however when comparing I have noticed a couple of differences. The first one being is that the electric connectors are different. (No biggie, PaulMC kindly supplied the correct one). The second difference is to do with the operating leavers. The one on the top is the normal type using the grubber screw to secure the cable. The operating leaver located at the side is different, there's no grubber screw. I'm a tad confused as to how I am supposed to secure the operating cable.

Any ideas folks.?!

Top lever

Bottom leaver

Landyfox · Dec 21, 2014

Can anyone at least confirm if this is a TD5 box

cowasaki · Dec 21, 2014

That looks like the lever has come off......

cowasaki · Dec 21, 2014

If you're going to fit it then I would strip it down: tape up all the joints with aluminium heater duct tape; replace all the seals; give it a paint and optionally insulate it from the outside. I did this to mine and it actually works now

Landyfox · Dec 21, 2014

cowasaki said:
That looks like the lever has come off......

No that is the lever and it functions perfectly if you move it by hand, the issue have is how do I connect the cable.?!

cowasaki said:
If you're going to fit it then I would strip it down: tape up all the joints with aluminium heater duct tape; replace all the seals; give it a paint and optionally insulate it from the outside. I did this to mine and it actually works now

Yeah I'll fully restore it after Christmas, I just want to get some heating in the landy for the kids.

Good idea!!!!

cowasaki · Dec 22, 2014

If the spindle that comes out of the bottom is the thing that you move then it looks like it's missing something like the bit from the top picture.

Is this the bit:

Landyfox · Dec 22, 2014

cowasaki said:
If the spindle that comes out of the bottom is the thing that you move then it looks like it's missing something like the bit from the top picture.

Is this the bit:

The full lever is there and works perfectly, however that spike (spindle) appears to be some kind of alternative to the grubber screw which is in the top of the picture. It's got me confused

aaronmorris · Dec 22, 2014

So Just been out and had a look and it's pretty much as I thought.
That little round clip in your picture comes off and the cable has an eyelet.
Put that on and clip back on job done.
But I assume yours hasn't got an eyelet on the end? just end of a cable.
Pic of mine to show, albeit not great.

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Landyfox · Dec 22, 2014

Cheers Aaron

Bugger, yup..... My cable doesn't appear to have an eyelet on it. So that's a replacement cable I need now.

aaronmorris · Dec 22, 2014

I may have a cable if you need one.
I'm wondering if you can swap the arm for the one off the old box?
Again silly little round clip on the arm, take that off and it should come off, provided the tdi ones are removable.

Landyfox · Dec 22, 2014

Cheers matey I'm very much in need of a cable. &#55356;&#57211;

Yeah I was think I would just take of the arm but couldn't figure out weber her that stupid washed was attached as it didn't budge. &#55357;&#56873;

aaronmorris · Dec 22, 2014

Just realised I have the same problem as you and that the heater cable isn't even connected at dash end.
I guess the later td5's must have used an eyelet.

aaronmorris · Dec 22, 2014

You could try fitting the td5 motor in the 300 box, you've got to have it out one way or the other.
Or if you're just wanting a heater for now fit it and forget the cable, just set it to open, that's how brothers 90 must have been since he's had it.

fanatic · Dec 22, 2014

Swap the arm

aaronmorris · Dec 22, 2014

fanatic said:
Swap the arm

That's what I said at first, never tried it though.

fanatic · Dec 22, 2014

aaronmorris said:
That's what I said at first, never tried it though.

It's a clip similar to the ones that hold buggy wheels on- those come off by rotating off and gently prising tangs.

If you try yanking it off the clip will break

Landyfox · Dec 22, 2014

Fantastic cheers chaps

Brown · Dec 22, 2014

Here's a picture of mine in situ in my TD5. You can just see the eyelet on the end of the cable:

Depending on the tools you have available, it shouldn't be impossible to make something . . .

mick the builder · Dec 22, 2014

Do you own a crimping tool? if not get an electrician to crimp on a ring terminal. Cost you pennies.

Landyfox · Dec 22, 2014

mick the builder said:
Do you own a crimping tool? if not get an electrician to crimp on a ring terminal. Cost you pennies.

To be honest I think it would just pull off.!!!

I think I will just drill a hole in the middle of the arm and feed the wire through and clamp it.

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