Freelander TD4 57k:miles is it worth getting....

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I am the owner of a well looked after 2006 freelander Td4, probably the last of the batch before the freelander 2 came out. I am the 2nd owner of this land rover and have had it for 12months. It has done just over 57,000 miles so far. I had a basic service back in the summer and i am getting it booked in in another week or so for a winter service (even though i only do 5000 miles a year i just think a winter service would keep it running sweet) . I am basically asking for advice if it is worth asking the mechanic to check the IRD and VCU to make sure my 4WD system is working all properly? I know the mileage is still pretty low for its age and I am not getting any symptoms of IRD or VCU failure, no pulling or clunking ,banging or lack of power.
any tips or advice will be appreicated. As I am not sure how prone these are on failing on freelanders. Obviously old models will but this is a 2006 facelift model with low mileage.
 
Trouble is, your average mechanic will have no idea how to check the VCU as there is no real test. Hippo's weight test, the reversing test and checking for excessive heat after 15 miles are all we have. It is knurdled VCUs that cause the IRD and diff to go. On our facelift cars, the ratios are better and the IRDs seem to fail less because of this, but a lot is down to owners replacing and looking after tyres properly to ensure same rolling diameter ALL round and replacing 4 at a time, every time. Sadly, most people still 'just replace the one for the MOT' and this is a death sentence for a 4x4, more so for ones with VCUs.

At 57k miles I'd start checking the VCU using the tests described above at least every few months just to be on the safe side. I'd be more concerned about getting clutch and brake fluid, coolant, diff and IRD fluids changed. Good luck! :)
 
At 57k miles I'd start checking the VCU using the tests described above at least every few months just to be on the safe side. I'd be more concerned about getting clutch and brake fluid, coolant, diff and IRD fluids changed. Good luck! :)

just replaced all 4 tyres yesterday. ill give my garage a call next week sometime to get it booked in for the week after, ill tell them the situation what im concerned about and see what they can come up with.
 
Let us know what they say... Just be wary if they say it's all fokkered as it's quite hard to tell and it's a big bill if a garage fixes it.....
 
Let us know what they say... Just be wary if they say it's all fokkered as it's quite hard to tell and it's a big bill if a garage fixes it.....

they seem a pretty genuine garage they done some work on my motor a few weeks ago whenI had the rac tow me there as my motor wasnt starting up in the yard at work to take me home, turned out it needed a new fuel pump, mechanic at the garage said he works on freelanders "common as muck" was the term he used. i shall definatley ask
 
it's easy to check .. just find a slippery surface
muddy field .. wet grassy slope ..

give the engine a bit of go-pedal .. make the fronts slip ..
and keep an eye on the rears to see if they kick in with drive

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i've a 2006 with 70k miles .. had 37k when bought in feb 2012 ..
first time the rears kicked in were when i did a u-turn via a very muddy verge ..
could feel it rather than see it ..
then waited till that winter 'n found a snowy uphill road .. that confirmed all was ok ..

now i do the 'turnip test' every now and again
that's a infra red thermometer aimed at the vcu unit ( and ird and rear diff )
the vcu constantly reads 20c above ambient temps ..
i've no other symptoms at all of the vcu tightening up

and to try and not stress the drivetrain .. all flat sharp corners .. are taken on 'cruise' throttle .. and i'll avoid full-lock if possible ..

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just go find a muddy field or similar to see IF it works as it should ..
 
My VCU was changed at 56k, 2005 TD4 facelift.....basically it had never been used off road before I brought it, and the VCU seized.
 
I've got an 06 TD4 with 65,000 on the clock and service it once a year. The last service at 60,000 miles I changed the engine oil, gearbox oil, IRD oil, and diff oil, changed the air filter and changed the auxiliary belts. all this is relatively easy to do if you have basic DIY skills and a pit or ramps. I have never checked my VCU and all seems to be running smooth.
 
These items get missed in a so called service , crankcase breather/pcv valve filter , turbo solenoid vent filter , fuel filter , and even air filter (td4) :eek:
 
Freelander Reconditioned Viscous Coupling Unit VCU - 12 months warranty | eBay i have found some more information on the VCU it says every 70,000 miles the vcu needs replacing. thats 12,000 miles more than what mine has done but i will still ask my local garage if he does any vcu work on freelanders for the near future
It always amazes me to see sellers listing adverts like this which contain a misrepresentation of the truth, biased against their desire to sell you something. How many of us put calgon in our washing machines? The advert tells me too...

A quote from the ebay listing, with my comments in red:

Do You Want Your Beloved Freelander to have Power Again? [Why does it keep splitting the quote ffs.]
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A Freelander Viscous Coupling Unit (VCU) should be replaced approximately every 70,000 miles - otherwise you risk doing damage to the rest of the drive train (IRD, Rear differential and even gearbox - expensive repairs!) [My vcu failed at half this mileage (35k) so taking their advice would have caused damage to my Freelanders transmission, as it continued towards 70k miles. It's lucky I'm on ere and test my vcu regular.]

Why does my VCU need replacing regularly?

Your VCU is a sealed unit containing a viscous fluid. [Tell us what the fluid is, and it's correct rating if you know it.] Over time the viscous fluid becomes thick and the prop shaft no longer rotates at the required speed.

This puts tremendous strain on the drive train, and, if not replaced in a timely manner, will eventually cause damage to the rest of the drive train, such as your IRD and rear differential.

How can I tell if my VCU needs replacing? [Test it yerself.]

There is no definitive test for the VCU as it is a sealed unit, so the condition of the viscous fluid cannot be checked. [That's not strictly true. We have the One Wheel Up Test and Turnip Test. These tests give you an example of the performance of your vcu, which is a representation of the performance of the workings of the vcu inside. That would presumably include the silicon fluid, which is at the heart of how the vcu functions/operates.]

If your VCU has passed its useable life your Freelander will feel as though it is holding back on you, especially when turning corners on full lock. [For completeness they should also mention there's a certain amount of "tightness" feeling from a fully working brand new vcu. There's also a tightness feeling when you don't have a vcu fitted.]

Although a number of sites [That's us. They could at least give us a mention.] on the internet suggest different methods for checking the condition of the VCU, none of these are a reliable test. [The information ere int too reliable. Sweeping statements...]

To avoid damage to the rest of your drive train you should ensure that your VCU is replaced regularly - approximately every 70,000 miles. [Previously covered. But you could also go mondo mode by removing the vcu which is the only permanent cure to stop potential problems if a fitted vcu were to fail, and cause drive train damage.]

WARNING: If you buy a second hand viscous coupling unit (VCU) or prop shaft because your viscous coupling unit (VCU) is beyond its usable life, there is no way of telling the condition of the viscous fluid in your replacement VCU – we strongly recommend that you DO NOT replace your viscous coupling unit (VCU) with a used unit. [If you buy a second hand vcu you simply test it yourself. That way you will know it's condition. In the same way you should test a reconditioned vcu, just in case you buy a faulty one from an unscrupulous seller.]

The only reliable replacement is a reconditioned unit which has had the viscous fluid replaced, or a new unit. [A reconditionned unit won't have the correct fluid inside as knowone knows the correct silicon and it's rating, other than GKN who manufacture brand new vcu's (and potentially land rover). Therefore a reconditionnned vcu will always be a greater risk, as opposed to a new one. The two cannot be compared.]

Rant over.
 
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