Fantastic news! Judge REINSTATES CLINTON Yellowstone sled plan!!!!!!!!

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Thats right! The Judge decided that Bush ignored science and public
comments, and cancelled his plan!

Then the judge fully reinstated Clionton's science and public opinion
backed plan to phase snowmobiles out of Yellowstone!


A great, GREAT day for all who enjoy the wonders of Yellowstone
national park!

Fantastic news! The Clinton plan STARTS TOMORROW!!!

Happy Holidays!


Most snowmobiles on hold at Yellowstone
Judge orders National Park Service to reverse courseMSNBC staff and
wire reports
Updated: 8:36 p.m. ET Dec. 16, 2003WASHINGTON - The National Park
Service must revive a scrapped plan to ban snowmobiles from
Yellowstone and Grand Teton national parks, a federal judge ordered
Tuesday, one day before the service had planned to open a winter
season under rules that allowed snowmobiling to continue.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3691981/

U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said the Bush administration should
not have set aside a Clinton administration plan that would have
banned snowmobiles in favor of mass-transit snow coaches, which would
reduce pollution in the parks.

The Bush administration dropped that plan and decided instead to allow
limited snowmobiling to continue under rules that allowed only
snowmobiles with quieter and less-polluting engines. The Park Service
was set to start operating under the new rules Wednesday.

Sullivan's ruling does not entirely close the parks to snowmobiling,
however. Instead, he ordered the Park Service to follow the older
rules, which will eventually allow only snow coaches — which carry
groups of winter visitors — in areas where individual snowmobilers
once rode.

A limited number of snowmobilers will be allowed to enter this winter
— about 490 per day in Yellowstone and 50 per day in Grand Teton.

950 snowmobilers a day
The Bush administration plan would have allowed 950 snowmobilers a day
in Yellowstone and 400 in Grand Teton, although most would have had to
ride the less environmentally harmful machines.

The Park Service called the administration plan a balance between its
duty to protect the park and its responsibility to allow the public to
visit and enjoy it.

In a lawsuit, the Greater Yellowstone Coalition of Bozeman, Mont.,
argued that the Park Service had ignored its own studies that show a
ban on snowmobiles and the use of snow coaches would best protect the
park's natural resources.

The group argued that unacceptable pollution and health risks to
workers would have continued even with the new emission and entry
limits on snowmobiles.

But Interior Secretary Gale Norton called the proposed rule "a common
sense solution to years of conflict. This rule allows Yellowstone
employees to closely manage snowmobile use in ways that protect
wildlife and resources while maintaining a quality visitor
experience."

"The plan discounts the extreme and unacceptable options — a complete
ban on snowmobiles versus unrestricted access and continued reliance
on older and polluting technology," she said in a statement this week.

Engine tests
In August, the Park Service asked for comments on two different ways
to test snowmobile emissions and, in the final regulations, chose a
method that was based on tests of entire classes of snowmobile
engines.

The Park Service said more than 90 percent of the nearly 105,000
people who submitted comments on the new rules were against them.
Sacklin said those comments were not within the bounds of the last
phase of the planning process, which aimed to fine-tune the rules.

Snowmobile opponents said the Park Service was ignoring evidence.

"Never before has the National Park Service ... understood so
completely what is needed to protect park resources, only to have
political appointees at the Interior Department order a different
course which they know will harm the park," said Rick Smith, a retired
Park Service official.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 
Gee I hope they end the pollution that occurs during the summer... with all
of the cars and trucks... that way only select and special people will be
allowed to go into the park.


"Sportsmen Against Bush" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thats right! The Judge decided that Bush ignored science and public
> comments, and cancelled his plan!
>
> Then the judge fully reinstated Clionton's science and public opinion
> backed plan to phase snowmobiles out of Yellowstone!
>
>
> A great, GREAT day for all who enjoy the wonders of Yellowstone
> national park!
>
> Fantastic news! The Clinton plan STARTS TOMORROW!!!
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
>
> Most snowmobiles on hold at Yellowstone
> Judge orders National Park Service to reverse courseMSNBC staff and
> wire reports
> Updated: 8:36 p.m. ET Dec. 16, 2003WASHINGTON - The National Park
> Service must revive a scrapped plan to ban snowmobiles from
> Yellowstone and Grand Teton national parks, a federal judge ordered
> Tuesday, one day before the service had planned to open a winter
> season under rules that allowed snowmobiling to continue.
>
> advertisement
>
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3691981/
>
> U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said the Bush administration should
> not have set aside a Clinton administration plan that would have
> banned snowmobiles in favor of mass-transit snow coaches, which would
> reduce pollution in the parks.
>
> The Bush administration dropped that plan and decided instead to allow
> limited snowmobiling to continue under rules that allowed only
> snowmobiles with quieter and less-polluting engines. The Park Service
> was set to start operating under the new rules Wednesday.
>
> Sullivan's ruling does not entirely close the parks to snowmobiling,
> however. Instead, he ordered the Park Service to follow the older
> rules, which will eventually allow only snow coaches - which carry
> groups of winter visitors - in areas where individual snowmobilers
> once rode.
>
> A limited number of snowmobilers will be allowed to enter this winter
> - about 490 per day in Yellowstone and 50 per day in Grand Teton.
>
> 950 snowmobilers a day
> The Bush administration plan would have allowed 950 snowmobilers a day
> in Yellowstone and 400 in Grand Teton, although most would have had to
> ride the less environmentally harmful machines.
>
> The Park Service called the administration plan a balance between its
> duty to protect the park and its responsibility to allow the public to
> visit and enjoy it.
>
> In a lawsuit, the Greater Yellowstone Coalition of Bozeman, Mont.,
> argued that the Park Service had ignored its own studies that show a
> ban on snowmobiles and the use of snow coaches would best protect the
> park's natural resources.
>
> The group argued that unacceptable pollution and health risks to
> workers would have continued even with the new emission and entry
> limits on snowmobiles.
>
> But Interior Secretary Gale Norton called the proposed rule "a common
> sense solution to years of conflict. This rule allows Yellowstone
> employees to closely manage snowmobile use in ways that protect
> wildlife and resources while maintaining a quality visitor
> experience."
>
> "The plan discounts the extreme and unacceptable options - a complete
> ban on snowmobiles versus unrestricted access and continued reliance
> on older and polluting technology," she said in a statement this week.
>
> Engine tests
> In August, the Park Service asked for comments on two different ways
> to test snowmobile emissions and, in the final regulations, chose a
> method that was based on tests of entire classes of snowmobile
> engines.
>
> The Park Service said more than 90 percent of the nearly 105,000
> people who submitted comments on the new rules were against them.
> Sacklin said those comments were not within the bounds of the last
> phase of the planning process, which aimed to fine-tune the rules.
>
> Snowmobile opponents said the Park Service was ignoring evidence.
>
> "Never before has the National Park Service ... understood so
> completely what is needed to protect park resources, only to have
> political appointees at the Interior Department order a different
> course which they know will harm the park," said Rick Smith, a retired
> Park Service official.
>
> The Associated Press contributed to this report.



 
On 16 Dec 2003 18:31:41 -0800, [email protected] (Sportsmen
Against Bush) wrote:

"Sportsmen Against Bush"?

I think a better name would be "Green Extremist Against Everything"

Ah, nothing brings out the trolls like a Sierra Club/BWN type
victory......... (Let's hope it is short lived.)

Matt
Doo owner
Manta owner


 
You're not a sportsmen, you're just a dick. Go get a job you asshole.

"Sportsmen Against Bush" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thats right! The Judge decided that Bush ignored science and public
> comments, and cancelled his plan!
>
> Then the judge fully reinstated Clionton's science and public opinion
> backed plan to phase snowmobiles out of Yellowstone!
>
>
> A great, GREAT day for all who enjoy the wonders of Yellowstone
> national park!
>
> Fantastic news! The Clinton plan STARTS TOMORROW!!!
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
>
> Most snowmobiles on hold at Yellowstone
> Judge orders National Park Service to reverse courseMSNBC staff and
> wire reports
> Updated: 8:36 p.m. ET Dec. 16, 2003WASHINGTON - The National Park
> Service must revive a scrapped plan to ban snowmobiles from
> Yellowstone and Grand Teton national parks, a federal judge ordered
> Tuesday, one day before the service had planned to open a winter
> season under rules that allowed snowmobiling to continue.
>
> advertisement
>
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3691981/
>
> U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said the Bush administration should
> not have set aside a Clinton administration plan that would have
> banned snowmobiles in favor of mass-transit snow coaches, which would
> reduce pollution in the parks.
>
> The Bush administration dropped that plan and decided instead to allow
> limited snowmobiling to continue under rules that allowed only
> snowmobiles with quieter and less-polluting engines. The Park Service
> was set to start operating under the new rules Wednesday.
>
> Sullivan's ruling does not entirely close the parks to snowmobiling,
> however. Instead, he ordered the Park Service to follow the older
> rules, which will eventually allow only snow coaches - which carry
> groups of winter visitors - in areas where individual snowmobilers
> once rode.
>
> A limited number of snowmobilers will be allowed to enter this winter
> - about 490 per day in Yellowstone and 50 per day in Grand Teton.
>
> 950 snowmobilers a day
> The Bush administration plan would have allowed 950 snowmobilers a day
> in Yellowstone and 400 in Grand Teton, although most would have had to
> ride the less environmentally harmful machines.
>
> The Park Service called the administration plan a balance between its
> duty to protect the park and its responsibility to allow the public to
> visit and enjoy it.
>
> In a lawsuit, the Greater Yellowstone Coalition of Bozeman, Mont.,
> argued that the Park Service had ignored its own studies that show a
> ban on snowmobiles and the use of snow coaches would best protect the
> park's natural resources.
>
> The group argued that unacceptable pollution and health risks to
> workers would have continued even with the new emission and entry
> limits on snowmobiles.
>
> But Interior Secretary Gale Norton called the proposed rule "a common
> sense solution to years of conflict. This rule allows Yellowstone
> employees to closely manage snowmobile use in ways that protect
> wildlife and resources while maintaining a quality visitor
> experience."
>
> "The plan discounts the extreme and unacceptable options - a complete
> ban on snowmobiles versus unrestricted access and continued reliance
> on older and polluting technology," she said in a statement this week.
>
> Engine tests
> In August, the Park Service asked for comments on two different ways
> to test snowmobile emissions and, in the final regulations, chose a
> method that was based on tests of entire classes of snowmobile
> engines.
>
> The Park Service said more than 90 percent of the nearly 105,000
> people who submitted comments on the new rules were against them.
> Sacklin said those comments were not within the bounds of the last
> phase of the planning process, which aimed to fine-tune the rules.
>
> Snowmobile opponents said the Park Service was ignoring evidence.
>
> "Never before has the National Park Service ... understood so
> completely what is needed to protect park resources, only to have
> political appointees at the Interior Department order a different
> course which they know will harm the park," said Rick Smith, a retired
> Park Service official.
>
> The Associated Press contributed to this report.



 
Strange how when some people have no logical or rational idea, they have to
revert to infantile name calling. Doyou think it may have something to do
with being around a bunch of self centered liberals?

Paul
"Wicked_ZR 800" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You're not a sportsmen, you're just a dick. Go get a job you asshole.
>
> "Sportsmen Against Bush" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Thats righ

>



 
bye bye pole smoker.

"paul Borowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Strange how when some people have no logical or rational idea, they have

to
> revert to infantile name calling. Doyou think it may have something to do
> with being around a bunch of self centered liberals?
>
> Paul
> "Wicked_ZR 800" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > You're not a sportsmen, you're just a dick. Go get a job you asshole.
> >
> > "Sportsmen Against Bush" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Thats righ

> >

>
>



 
Hey!!! Sportsman against Bush, Fantastic news, your outboard motor and the
right to fish come next. Have a great Day!
"Sportsmen Against Bush" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thats right! The Judge decided that Bush ignored science and public
> comments, and cancelled his plan!
>
> Then the judge fully reinstated Clionton's science and public opinion
> backed plan to phase snowmobiles out of Yellowstone!
>
>
> A great, GREAT day for all who enjoy the wonders of Yellowstone
> national park!
>
> Fantastic news! The Clinton plan STARTS TOMORROW!!!
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
>
> Most snowmobiles on hold at Yellowstone
> Judge orders National Park Service to reverse courseMSNBC staff and
> wire reports
> Updated: 8:36 p.m. ET Dec. 16, 2003WASHINGTON - The National Park
> Service must revive a scrapped plan to ban snowmobiles from
> Yellowstone and Grand Teton national parks, a federal judge ordered
> Tuesday, one day before the service had planned to open a winter
> season under rules that allowed snowmobiling to continue.
>
> advertisement
>
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3691981/
>
> U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said the Bush administration should
> not have set aside a Clinton administration plan that would have
> banned snowmobiles in favor of mass-transit snow coaches, which would
> reduce pollution in the parks.
>
> The Bush administration dropped that plan and decided instead to allow
> limited snowmobiling to continue under rules that allowed only
> snowmobiles with quieter and less-polluting engines. The Park Service
> was set to start operating under the new rules Wednesday.
>
> Sullivan's ruling does not entirely close the parks to snowmobiling,
> however. Instead, he ordered the Park Service to follow the older
> rules, which will eventually allow only snow coaches - which carry
> groups of winter visitors - in areas where individual snowmobilers
> once rode.
>
> A limited number of snowmobilers will be allowed to enter this winter
> - about 490 per day in Yellowstone and 50 per day in Grand Teton.
>
> 950 snowmobilers a day
> The Bush administration plan would have allowed 950 snowmobilers a day
> in Yellowstone and 400 in Grand Teton, although most would have had to
> ride the less environmentally harmful machines.
>
> The Park Service called the administration plan a balance between its
> duty to protect the park and its responsibility to allow the public to
> visit and enjoy it.
>
> In a lawsuit, the Greater Yellowstone Coalition of Bozeman, Mont.,
> argued that the Park Service had ignored its own studies that show a
> ban on snowmobiles and the use of snow coaches would best protect the
> park's natural resources.
>
> The group argued that unacceptable pollution and health risks to
> workers would have continued even with the new emission and entry
> limits on snowmobiles.
>
> But Interior Secretary Gale Norton called the proposed rule "a common
> sense solution to years of conflict. This rule allows Yellowstone
> employees to closely manage snowmobile use in ways that protect
> wildlife and resources while maintaining a quality visitor
> experience."
>
> "The plan discounts the extreme and unacceptable options - a complete
> ban on snowmobiles versus unrestricted access and continued reliance
> on older and polluting technology," she said in a statement this week.
>
> Engine tests
> In August, the Park Service asked for comments on two different ways
> to test snowmobile emissions and, in the final regulations, chose a
> method that was based on tests of entire classes of snowmobile
> engines.
>
> The Park Service said more than 90 percent of the nearly 105,000
> people who submitted comments on the new rules were against them.
> Sacklin said those comments were not within the bounds of the last
> phase of the planning process, which aimed to fine-tune the rules.
>
> Snowmobile opponents said the Park Service was ignoring evidence.
>
> "Never before has the National Park Service ... understood so
> completely what is needed to protect park resources, only to have
> political appointees at the Interior Department order a different
> course which they know will harm the park," said Rick Smith, a retired
> Park Service official.
>
> The Associated Press contributed to this report.



 
"paul Borowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Strange how when some people have no logical or rational idea, they have to
> revert to infantile name calling. Doyou think it may have something to do
> with being around a bunch of self centered liberals?
>
> Paul
> "Wicked_ZR 800" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > You're not a sportsmen, you're just a dick. Go get a job you asshole.
> >
> > "Sportsmen Against Bush" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Thats righ

> >


Dear Mr Borowski; thank you for your informative and thoughtfull
opinion. Do you realize how many people will now loose their jobs
because of this thoughtless act of a lameduck administration (11th
hour Clinton at his best)? There are numerous businesses which will
no longer have snowmobiling patrons. They bought equipment for this
year and the future of the recreational sport and Clinton screwed
them, again. If they're a women owned business he probably screwed
them twice, but that's another story. No guests, no motel, no
restaurant, no laudromat, no grocery store, no gas station, no
postcards, no newspapers, no toiletpaper, no toobrushes, no parts, no
plugs, no belts, no airplane tickets, no rental cars, nothing. The
sleds the local rental businesses bought this year won't get paid for
and they'll declare bankruptcy. They'll go on welfare and we'll pay
for it. You, me and each and every person who reads this email will
pay for it. Do you think I am exaggerating? Well it is nothing
compared to the exaggerations made by the treehuggers who have taken a
perfectly legal, regulated and substantially cleaner environmental
impact (4-stroke snowmobiles vs millions of on road motor vehicles)
and closed yet another piece of public land because they don't
understand. They don't listen, they don't think. They just don't
think they like it, so people shouldn't do it. And they seem to have
been successful. So Mr. Borowski, keep an open mind, cause your
opinion don't mean a thing to me.
 
Roughly 12/17/03 08:08, Matt Mead's monkeys randomly typed:

> On 16 Dec 2003 18:31:41 -0800, [email protected] (Sportsmen
> Against Bush) wrote:
>
> "Sportsmen Against Bush"?
>
> I think a better name would be "Green Extremist Against Everything"
>
> Ah, nothing brings out the trolls like a Sierra Club/BWN type
> victory......... (Let's hope it is short lived.)
>


Hell, I'll bet the original troll couldn't point to Montana,
Wyoming, or even Yellowstone on a map even if you started him
with his finger at Livingston. As for having ever been there,
I'd bet the Raiders will win this year's SuperBowl first.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

 
Thanx...

REM7600

> Dear Mr Borowski; thank you for your informative and thoughtfull
> opinion. Do you realize how many people will now loose their jobs
> because of this thoughtless act of a lameduck administration (11th
> hour Clinton at his best)? There are numerous businesses which will
> no longer have snowmobiling patrons. They bought equipment for this
> year and the future of the recreational sport and Clinton screwed
> them, again. If they're a women owned business he probably screwed
> them twice, but that's another story. No guests, no motel, no
> restaurant, no laudromat, no grocery store, no gas station, no
> postcards, no newspapers, no toiletpaper, no toobrushes, no parts, no
> plugs, no belts, no airplane tickets, no rental cars, nothing. The
> sleds the local rental businesses bought this year won't get paid for
> and they'll declare bankruptcy. They'll go on welfare and we'll pay
> for it. You, me and each and every person who reads this email will
> pay for it. Do you think I am exaggerating? Well it is nothing
> compared to the exaggerations made by the treehuggers who have taken a
> perfectly legal, regulated and substantially cleaner environmental
> impact (4-stroke snowmobiles vs millions of on road motor vehicles)
> and closed yet another piece of public land because they don't
> understand. They don't listen, they don't think. They just don't
> think they like it, so people shouldn't do it. And they seem to have
> been successful. So Mr. Borowski, keep an open mind, cause your
> opinion don't mean a thing to me.



 
You tree hugging comi peace hating jerk!!! Anything to take a crack
at the United States. You write "so it can be enjoyed". by who you and
that lying ex President who still hasn't come up with anything to be
remembered for but a stupid wife who should have dumped his tail when he
was caught cheating the 20 time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In order to enjoy nature you must be able to enjoy nature.This isn't
possible sitting on a bus.I believe people like you probably spent to
much time watching tv and wouldn't know how to look at the world through
anything but a piece of glass.

Half the fulfillment of anything like the park system, is GETTING
THERE!!!
As an avid nature enjoyer, I will never give up my ORV's And will
always fight to show you anti-American jerks the door or the
border......

It is a proven fact that more pollution comes from tree hugger
rederick than from some of the poorest running ORV's.

When will you Liberal idiot's wake up and realize that you are a
minority.Leave the Democratic Party and go get your own...... You have
done enough damage to Fredom, Liberty, and America>>>>>

 
"More people on Welfare"
Exactly what liberal Jerks want. It's the only way they can
accomplish there goals of distroying th US.. Americans for the real
Democratic Party

 
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