EX MOD 90 first Landy

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Pjrs34

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Hello All
I thought I would start a thread detailing my experience/experiences with my Landy.
I’ve always fancied a Landy and I’ve worked for the MOD in the past and have driven some of theirs, from old 90’s and 110’s RHD and LHD plus the newer 90’s and 110’s.
I’ve had the same hatchback car since 2000 and it does me fine but I’ve also had a motorbike as my toy. I’ve had everything from Honda C90’s to a race tuned GSX-R 600. One bike I’ve always wanted was a Ducati 749. In Jan 2012 I purchased one, it looked the bees knees, went like a rocket, sounded superb and rode like a dream. I knew it would be put away in October and wouldn’t come out again until March 2013. I decided if you’re gonna have a toy may as well have one you can use. So I started looking for a Landy.
I like the simplicity of the Ex MOD Landys with the NA engine and non PAS etc. I’ve got quite a good mechanical background but not on vehicles and I wanted to be able to work on it myself.
I found a garage outside of Tadcaster that specialised in Ex MOD Landys. I wanted a 90 and preferably hard top. Viking 4x4 had 2 in stock one just released by the MOD and one he had taken in PX. Both were in the same condition but the PX one should have been a soft top but converted to hard top and civilian hard top and back door used. I preferred the just released one as it was original.
I had a good look round it and it was covered in 10 layers of brush applied paint, the bulkhead was solid, foot wells had been repaired, chassis was solid and covered in underseal, original engine but with quite a few new bits bolted on. It was raining at the time and only had a few drops of water in the foot wells.
There were a few problems with it though, one head lamp was full of moisture, wind screen washer didn’t work, 4 holes in the floor in the back where the battery box had been and it didn’t have any seats in the back.
I sold the Ducati and paid a deposit!
10 days later I collected my Landy which had 2 new head lamps, working wind screen washer holes repaired and 2 bench seats fitted in the back all at no extra cost!
I drove it home and it was noisy clunked when you changed gear but hey it was a Landy and it was mine and it only cost £4000!
I drove it around for a week and all was good, I pulled a few broken down cars out of the floods we've had as well!
I purchased a set of pioneer tools for the back door cos after all if you’ve got brackets for a spade and pick axe then you should fit a spade and pick axe to em!
A mate of mine has a 110 V8 so we planned a green laning trip.
The Landy was great and so was driving it off road. I hadn’t done anything to it or with it I just drove it as I got it.
I had a look underneath it one day and saw grease nipples on the prop shaft and UJ’s a quick search of the workshop (dads) and I found a grease gun. I greased all the UJ’s and prop shaft and hey presto no more clunking when changing gear!
One morning I noticed the clutch pedal felt different and the bite point was right at the bottom. A quick look in the master cylinder revealed it was empty. I purchased a litre of brake fluid and bled the clutch. The fluid that came out was pretty mankey so I bled it until the new fluid came through. With the remainder of the fluid I decided to bleed the brakes again the fluid was mankey so I got another litre of fluid and bled the full system until the new stuff came through.
We planned another green laning trip as we now had 6 inches of snow to play around in but 2 days before the exhaust centre section failed by the box. A manic call around and Land Rover Ripon and they could get one the next day £120. I drove over and collected it but it was the wrong one! My fault as I had given them the wrong part number. A very helpful chap on the parts counter found the correct one but it wasn’t available from Land Rover. He told me of Blancards outside Market Weighton and a quick call to them and they had one in stock! A new centre section and tail pipe section was purchased for £32! I fitted them and went out for a test drive and the fan belt snapped! I managed to drive it to a petrol station and then get a lift to Andrew Pages who had a belt in stock for £3. I drove it into a jet wash booth as snow had started fall quite heavily by this time. Fitted the new fan belt and 10 minutes later I was on my way again.
The snowy green lanes were great fun apart from sliding un controllably down a hill backwards!
I now decided to give the Landy a complete fluids change service
Engine oil
Transfer box oil
Gear box oil
Diff oil
Swivel housing grease
I got in 1 ½ pints more oil in the transfer box than I got out and its quietened it down loads. Hey presto you can now hold a conversation whilst driving.
After researching what oil to put in the gear box I found some say ATF and some MTF. I decided whatever came out new stuff of the same would go back in ATF being red and MTF oil coloured. Oil coloured stuff came out so I filled it with 75W90 gear box oil and again its quietened it down loads and made the gear change nicer.
Diffs took about a pint more than I got out.
I got twice as much in the swivel housings as I got out. Top tip is only cut off the very tip of the bag of grease then it goes into the housing all the way.
I did the oil changes in freezing conditions so put the new bottles of oil in a bucket of hot water to warm them up and everything poured in a dream. I found a piece of pipe that fitted to one of the bottle nozzles so when it came to the gear box oil I warmed it up in boiling water and let gravity do the work it still took 15 minutes though.
My experience so far is a good one. All the nuts and nipples I’ve wanted to get off or loosen have been present and not seized solid. The 10 layers of paint have protected it from trees scratching it and its £7 for a can of paint! All the fluids have cost around £75 and its given me summat to do and improved it no end!
Would I recommend an Ex MOD Landy in my experience yes but give it a good check over and give it a service at it may not have had one for a while!
Thanks for reading.


 
Welcome to the wonderful world of LandRover. You'll love her and hate her in equal amounts, but now you've been bitten................
 
Sounds like you have a nice one there mate. i am currently looking for an Ex MOD in just the right condition and for the right price myself.
have you put any internal lining in yours or left it o' naturel
 
I have an ex MOD Defender 90 that I put a 200 TDi engine into. I love it to bits. I have a Warn winch on the front and converted the rag top to a rag top truck cab with tonneau cover over the load bay. Still NATO canvass, ex SAS surplus brand new and it looks the biz. Mine is in very rough camo. No internal sound proof, no carpets or mats, just bear metal and not even a radio! I hose it inside and out to clean! I also put Exmoor trim seats up front including the middle seat and made a new set of bench seats for the back that can be fitted for sunny days!


I grease the UJ's every month and that keeps the clunks under control!!
 
I want to keep it as original as possible, so no sound proofing or radio.

As its an ex FFR I would quite like to fit 2 TUAAM boxes to the front wing I've found em on eBay but they are expenno like. If you anyone knows of any going cheap then please let me know.
 
You don't have to have TUAAM boxes. You can just get the high mounts that fit behind the drivers and passenger doors, and run wires through the ports in the canvas. I did this and used one antenna for my car radio, back in the day with my S3 FFR Lightweight.
 
Firstly welcome

Secondly - did I read that you put EP90 in the gearbox? Not good - needs to be ATF or MTF94

Not sure if it will cause any long term damage - believe may harm baulk rings
 
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Firstly welcome

Secondly - did I read that you put EP90 in the gearbox? Not good - needs to be ATF or MTF94

Not sure if it will cause any long term damage - believe may harm baulk rings

No didn't put EP90 in the gear box I put in 75W90 gearbox oil.
 
No didn't put EP90 in the gear box I put in 75W90 gearbox oil.

I'd suggest sending a pm to either redhand or james martin to check - not sure how this compares to ATF. I think it's thicker.

Having just done a gear box swap would not wanat you to have the expense of finding you have to do the same
 
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Just waiting in a garage for my Peugeot to be fixed so I thought I woul add another section.

My landy had developed a starting problem, basically it wouldn't start of the key turn you could hear the starter solenoid click but not throw the starter like it had a flat battery.

It was getting worse but it would start on the third or forth key turn or on the first it just depended on how the landy was feeling.

I took the starter off and detached the solenoid from the motor and it had had water in it in the past and was pretty mankey. A bit of emery paper later freshly greased bendix drive the started was re installed and she now fires every time!!
 
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