Double Cardan Front Prop for 200tdi defender

Has anyone got a decent Double Cardan front prop for sale that fits a 200tdi Defender?

A Disco 2 one will fit.
You only need a wide yoke prop though.

A wide yoke prop won't stop the vibration I thought? My prop isn't binding, my problem is the pinion angle of my front prop is wrong which can only be rectified by a double cardan.

Please correct me if I'm wrong though as a wide angle prop is half the price!

Wide angle prop worked for me with 2" lift and 3 deg castor corrected arms.

harry2012 said:

A wide yoke prop won't stop the vibration I thought? My prop isn't binding, my problem is the pinion angle of my front prop is wrong which can only be rectified by a double cardan.

Please correct me if I'm wrong though as a wide angle prop is half the price!

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A double cardan will allow for the diff and transfer box angles to be different yes.

Im presuming you've lifted your vehicle? have you fitted castor corrected radius arms?

harry2012 said:

A wide yoke prop won't stop the vibration I thought? My prop isn't binding, my problem is the pinion angle of my front prop is wrong which can only be rectified by a double cardan.

Please correct me if I'm wrong though as a wide angle prop is half the price!

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front pinion angle is never right lifted or not hence phasing of front prop as std

One does have a wide angle for sale

The previous owner lifted it and im left with a bad vibration (as per my thread in the 110 section) that only happens under load at 40mph plus, coasting, clutch dipped it's all smooth.

Standard radius arms on it.

jamesmartin said:

front pinion angle is never right lifted or not hence phasing of front prop as std

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So do I need a wide angle or double cardan?

harry2012 said:

The previous owner lifted it and im left with a bad vibration (as per my thread in the 110 section) that only happens under load at 40mph plus, coasting, clutch dipped it's all smooth.

Standard radius arms on it.

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harry2012 said:

So do I need a wide angle or double cardan?

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I haven't seen your thread but as you describe it id say you need a DC not a wide angle.

Wide angle props are for when you've got binding under big articulation and big lifts really.

Your DC unit allows that extra joint to correct the fact your axle and tbox are not parallel.

So have you fitted castor corrected arms? like james says: it will never be as standard but castor correct arms should be the first port of call.

There is so many discussions with no definitive outcome as to why some lifts bind and some don't.

is your current prop worn?

i had an issue with vibrating prop and it was the slip joint that was worn that was the problem

it was also binding at full droop with 2" dampers and 3 degree arms fitted

wide angle fixed this - tight slip joint and better UJ clearance

with yours, need to establish the actual issue first i think

Nope vibrated with the old worn prop and is even worse with a brand new one.

GINGE said:

I haven't seen your thread but as you describe it id say you need a DC not a wide angle.

Wide angle props are for when you've got binding under big articulation and big lifts really.

Your DC unit allows that extra joint to correct the fact your axle and tbox are not parallel.

So have you fitted castor corrected arms? like james says: it will never be as standard but castor correct arms should be the first port of call.

There is so many discussions with no definitive outcome as to why some lifts bind and some don't.

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Arms are standard. It drives absolutely fine apart from this vibration.

providing everything is ok and it is prop you could fit a disc 2 d/c and add spacers to drive flange to make length up

Where would I get spacers from?

ebay ,but thinking about it you would only be able to fit them to axle end with t/box d/c flange been bigger,id lengthen prop

surely your first call should be corrected arms? They don't make them for no reason.

A DC prop shaft is hassle as you will have to change the t-box output etc, and there expensive compared to a set of gwyn lewis cranked arms. £120 to get a set sent to you and for you to send him yours back.

GINGE said:

surely your first call should be corrected arms? They don't make them for no reason.

A DC prop shaft is hassle as you will have to change the t-box output etc, and there expensive compared to a set of gwyn lewis cranked arms. £120 to get a set sent to you and for you to send him yours back.

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Castor corrected arms will make any vibration problem worse because they move the diff pinion angle back towards the horizontal. The purpose of castor correction is to overcome the lack of steering self-centering introduced by a suspension lift.
I'm pretty sure that all the OP needs is a wide angle prop. That worked for me with a 2" lift anyway.

My Defender drives fine, self centres, etc as it should. It's the horrible drive train vibration that's the issue.

This is for mine and the sort of thing I'm after. From what I can tell it just bolts straight on?

http://www.paddockspares.com/pm098-...ft-front-defender-2-5p-2-5d-2-5td-200tdi.html

Your post heading says DC prop for 200tdi Defender. The link above is for a 300tdi defender or 2 or 300 disco. The 200 defender has the motor mounted further back and had a longer front prop. So none of the above will fit.

Or did I miss something in the posts?