Hello all. I have been absent for a while whilst dismantling my 90. It's been a longer process than it should have been. (I did buy a Jimny to fill the gap...that's another story) I was in Craddock's the other day enquiring about buying a galv chassis. They told me that unless I buy one soon I wont be able to because of some change in legislation regarding chassis replacement. Is this correct. I can't believe it to be the case as there are no doubt many of us out there who are, or who are planning to go galv when their current chassis goes beyond viable repair, as did mine.
Chassis Info check please
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I doubt it very much, the only reason not to get one soon is the price going up I recon.
chrisstdt
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First I've heard ,googleing it brings up nothing either
v8250
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There is proposed legal change to being able to modify cars in certain ways. The legalities have yet to be ratified but it will restrict the ways that vehicles can be modified, similar to exiting legislation in Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France et al. Current proposal does not restrict changing a chassis. I sense Craddocks are talking utter Craddocks, similar to their customer service.
There are far too many historic vehicles of great importance, let alone value, that have separate body to chassis and when these need replacing to retain vehicle existence, ala, a £25M 250 GTO, the chassis is changed.
The legislative changes ares still at proposal stage and are environmentally driven to stop owner tampering that may 1. increase vehicle pollution, and 2. lower vehicle safety standards [and judging by some of the modified Land Rovers out there the legislation will be a welcome change].
Importantly, read the highlighted text below...
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...ernising-vehicle-standards#tackling-tampering
>>Tackling tampering
We will create new offences for tampering with a system, part or component of a vehicle intended or adapted to be used on a road. This will enable us to address existing gaps in the legislation, ensuring cleaner and safer vehicles. We will also create new offences for tampering with non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) and for advertising ‘tampering’ services or products.
This will strengthen our ability to enforce compliance in this area.
We are aware that the Law Commissions in both their first and third consultations on automated vehicles have considered tampering. We await their final recommendations and would welcome views on our proposals, as follows.
Specifically, we would look to create:
We do not intend our proposals to:
There are far too many historic vehicles of great importance, let alone value, that have separate body to chassis and when these need replacing to retain vehicle existence, ala, a £25M 250 GTO, the chassis is changed.
The legislative changes ares still at proposal stage and are environmentally driven to stop owner tampering that may 1. increase vehicle pollution, and 2. lower vehicle safety standards [and judging by some of the modified Land Rovers out there the legislation will be a welcome change].
Importantly, read the highlighted text below...
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...ernising-vehicle-standards#tackling-tampering
>>Tackling tampering
We will create new offences for tampering with a system, part or component of a vehicle intended or adapted to be used on a road. This will enable us to address existing gaps in the legislation, ensuring cleaner and safer vehicles. We will also create new offences for tampering with non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) and for advertising ‘tampering’ services or products.
This will strengthen our ability to enforce compliance in this area.
We are aware that the Law Commissions in both their first and third consultations on automated vehicles have considered tampering. We await their final recommendations and would welcome views on our proposals, as follows.
Specifically, we would look to create:
- a specific offence for supplying, installing and/or advertising, a ‘tampering product’ for a vehicle or NRMM – this would apply where a principal effect of the product is to bypass, defeat, reduce the effectiveness of or render inoperative a system, part or component (the product may be a physical part or component, hardware and/or software)
- a specific offence for removing, reducing the effectiveness of, or rendering inoperative a system, part or component for a vehicle/NRMM and advertising such services
- a specific offence for allowing for use or providing a vehicle or NRMM that has had the operations described in the previous 2 points performed on it
- a new power to require economic operators to provide information, where a service/product they have supplied amounts to or enables ‘tampering’ with a vehicle or NRMM – this would apply in any of the above senses and include requirements to provide relevant information on the quantities of products sold or modified
We do not intend our proposals to:
- prevent legitimate motorsport activities
- prevent restoration, repairs or legitimate improvements to vehicles, such as classic cars or motorbikes
- negatively impact businesses involved in these activities<<
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That’s a great reply. Thanks for taking the time to copy and paste detail, too.
Surely you are not suggesting that Craddock’s are over hyping.
It’s a good point and common sense. How would such as the GTO you mentioned ever see the light of day. Still i may best look at delaying ordering for as little time as possible.
Surely you are not suggesting that Craddock’s are over hyping.
It’s a good point and common sense. How would such as the GTO you mentioned ever see the light of day. Still i may best look at delaying ordering for as little time as possible.
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Yes, if the Land Rover needs a new chassis, buy a new chassis. Here, I have a modified MGB roadster...luckily with a 200% rust free shell. An MGB is a monocoque where the sills are constructed of multiple layers enabling correct body structural rigidity. Should the inner/outer sills and inner castle sections deteriorate [they won't] and need replacing I simply cut out the old and weld in the new. This is the same as replacing the chassis on a Land Rover, MGA, some Jaguars, Bentleys, TR's et al. Hell, if an MG's body gets so bad we could even buy a whole new body shell direct from British Motor Heritage in Witney https://www.bmh-ltd.com/body-shells/
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I'm a lucky boy. It's near unheard of...a rust free MGB. Luckily both sills had been replaced not long before I bought the car. Then I set to converting to a V8 and completely restoring the underside/adding new strengthening outriggers +++ the sills and all box sections are Dinitrol treated and look like new. The underside is cleaner than the topside
In prep'
Raptor Tinted with Brooklands Green - it's a very tough underbody material
Underside view rear to front, V8 st/st pipes and Cosworth Viscous LSD for some mechapron
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If it rusts away completely, will you have 100% rust free shell?I'm a lucky boy. It's near unheard of...a rust free MGB. Luckily both sills had been replaced not long before I bought the car. Then I set to converting to a V8 and completely restoring the underside/adding new strengthening outriggers +++ the sills and all box sections are Dinitrol treated and look like new. The underside is cleaner than the topside
In prep'
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Raptor Tinted with Brooklands Green - it's a very tough underbody material
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Underside view rear to front, V8 st/st pipes and Cosworth Viscous LSD for some mechapron
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Selling new chassis for landroversvwill be bug business now with several companies at it
That equals alot of VAT going the government's way so can't see them wanting to change too much
That equals alot of VAT going the government's way so can't see them wanting to change too much
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Oooh, I like your thinking...so are you saying that if my MGB rusts away completely I'll still have a 100% rust free MGB :. two cars for the price of one?!!
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I'm assuming that's what happens if it's 200% rust free to start with
